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Title: "Engineers"
Post by: TheBoy on 10 September 2008, 20:06:07
My works laptop has an intermittent problem.  HP, so enough said really.  That aside, it has a faulty system board, causing it to make poor connection with docking station.

So, because of the company I work for, they don't replace but repair, whereas the company I work for get replacement (yes, who I work for isn't straightforward!)

So an 'Engineer' comes out to replace system board, so he takes laptop away.  About an hour later, I get a call from 'Engineer' saying he has ordered a replacement laptop, as he has destroyed mine because it has odd screws and he didn't have the right tools!

He brings it back so I can retrieve my data, the 'odd screws' are normal torx, looks like he has butchered them with a screwdriver.

So, got to spend the next 2 days rebuilding new laptop when it turns up tomorrow  >:(
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 10 September 2008, 20:10:22
Dont dip the next one in the bath and you wont have these problems anymore.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 September 2008, 20:13:23
similiar situation here..fathers laptop ethernet port (toshiba) suddenly

stopped working..1 week ago.. So I visited two services..The "

enginners" said that main board must be replaced for a similiar cost  

of a new lappy..or buy a PCMCIA ethernet..WHat :o.. I come home

butchered the lappy .. ;D and it started working  ;D

Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2008, 20:22:54
i have stripped a Sony Vaio laptop down before, its not exactly hard!
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 September 2008, 20:26:01
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i have stripped a Sony Vaio laptop down before, its not exactly hard!

I couldnt trust myself too much for lappies as they make tricky and weak connections between components and hands a little big :-[
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2008, 20:29:39
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i have stripped a Sony Vaio laptop down before, its not exactly hard!

I couldnt trust myself too much for lappies as they make tricky and weak connections between components and hands a little big :-[

Its fairly straight forward, turn it over, and just start removing all the screws you see.

Just take your time and be logical as you look at it.
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: Growler on 10 September 2008, 20:41:55
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My works laptop has an intermittent problem.  HP, so enough said really.  That aside, it has a faulty system board, causing it to make poor connection with docking station.

So, because of the company I work for, they don't replace but repair, whereas the company I work for get replacement (yes, who I work for isn't straightforward!)

So an 'Engineer' comes out to replace system board, so he takes laptop away.  About an hour later, I get a call from 'Engineer' saying he has ordered a replacement laptop, as he has destroyed mine because it has odd screws and he didn't have the right tools!

He brings it back so I can retrieve my data, the 'odd screws' are normal torx, looks like he has butchered them with a screwdriver.

So, got to spend the next 2 days rebuilding new laptop when it turns up tomorrow  >:(
TB you got a gimp, they're not all like that, unfortunately you get useless morons in everything.









Regards

Richard

(HP Accredited Platform specialist)
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 September 2008, 20:42:06
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i have stripped a Sony Vaio laptop down before, its not exactly hard!

I couldnt trust myself too much for lappies as they make tricky and weak connections between components and hands a little big :-[

Its fairly straight forward, turn it over, and just start removing all the screws you see.

Just take your time and be logical as you look at it.

Thanks Tunnie :y
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: mantahatch on 10 September 2008, 20:42:09
The term "Engineer" is so over used in the UK, I am afraid I would not describe people who "repair" computers as Engineers.

Just my useless opinion.

Mike
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 September 2008, 20:45:23
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The term "Engineer" is so over used in the UK, I am afraid I would not describe people who "repair" computers as Engineers.

Just my useless opinion.

Mike

No, call me an "Engineer"  ;D :y
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: TheBoy on 10 September 2008, 20:50:36
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i have stripped a Sony Vaio laptop down before, its not exactly hard!

I couldnt trust myself too much for lappies as they make tricky and weak connections between components and hands a little big :-[
Its really easy - replace a system board in most laptops is around 90mins normally...
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 September 2008, 20:54:09
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i have stripped a Sony Vaio laptop down before, its not exactly hard!

I couldnt trust myself too much for lappies as they make tricky and weak connections between components and hands a little big :-[
Its really easy - replace a system board in most laptops is around 90mins normally...

for pcs and servers done many times but lappy boards never tried that..Will try on a scrappy .. :y
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 September 2008, 20:56:49
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The term "Engineer" is so over used in the UK, I am afraid I would not describe people who "repair" computers as Engineers.

Just my useless opinion.

Mike


People who repair things are not.....not washing machine repair men, not plumbers (boiler and heating technicians)....none of them.

The engineers were the people who engineered the product for mass production in the first place.
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: TheBoy on 10 September 2008, 20:58:59
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The term "Engineer" is so over used in the UK, I am afraid I would not describe people who "repair" computers as Engineers.

Just my useless opinion.

Mike


People who repair things are not.....not washing machine repair men, not plumbers (boiler and heating technicians)....none of them.

The engineers were the people who engineered the product for mass production in the first place.
Does that make me a part time software engineer?
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 September 2008, 21:00:22
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The term "Engineer" is so over used in the UK, I am afraid I would not describe people who "repair" computers as Engineers.

Just my useless opinion.

Mike


People who repair things are not.....not washing machine repair men, not plumbers (boiler and heating technicians)....none of them.

The engineers were the people who engineered the product for mass production in the first place.

Exactly..
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: TheBoy on 10 September 2008, 21:00:29
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i have stripped a Sony Vaio laptop down before, its not exactly hard!

I couldnt trust myself too much for lappies as they make tricky and weak connections between components and hands a little big :-[
Its really easy - replace a system board in most laptops is around 90mins normally...

for pcs and servers done many times but lappy boards never tried that..Will try on a scrappy .. :y
Generally to ways to strip - via keyboard, or via underneath.  Dells are some of the easiest imho...
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 September 2008, 21:03:06
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i have stripped a Sony Vaio laptop down before, its not exactly hard!

I couldnt trust myself too much for lappies as they make tricky and weak connections between components and hands a little big :-[
Its really easy - replace a system board in most laptops is around 90mins normally...

for pcs and servers done many times but lappy boards never tried that..Will try on a scrappy .. :y
Generally to ways to strip - via keyboard, or via underneath.  Dells are some of the easiest imho...

Toshiba was underneath..
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: TheBoy on 10 September 2008, 21:09:33
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i have stripped a Sony Vaio laptop down before, its not exactly hard!

I couldnt trust myself too much for lappies as they make tricky and weak connections between components and hands a little big :-[
Its really easy - replace a system board in most laptops is around 90mins normally...

for pcs and servers done many times but lappy boards never tried that..Will try on a scrappy .. :y
Generally to ways to strip - via keyboard, or via underneath.  Dells are some of the easiest imho...

Toshiba was underneath..
Last tosh I did was via keyboard, but it varies machine to machine...
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 September 2008, 21:16:00
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i have stripped a Sony Vaio laptop down before, its not exactly hard!

I couldnt trust myself too much for lappies as they make tricky and weak connections between components and hands a little big :-[
Its really easy - replace a system board in most laptops is around 90mins normally...

for pcs and servers done many times but lappy boards never tried that..Will try on a scrappy .. :y
Generally to ways to strip - via keyboard, or via underneath.  Dells are some of the easiest imho...

Toshiba was underneath..
Last tosh I did was via keyboard, but it varies machine to machine...

May be I'm wrong :o ;D
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: TheBoy on 10 September 2008, 21:18:32
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i have stripped a Sony Vaio laptop down before, its not exactly hard!

I couldnt trust myself too much for lappies as they make tricky and weak connections between components and hands a little big :-[
Its really easy - replace a system board in most laptops is around 90mins normally...

for pcs and servers done many times but lappy boards never tried that..Will try on a scrappy .. :y
Generally to ways to strip - via keyboard, or via underneath.  Dells are some of the easiest imho...

Toshiba was underneath..
Last tosh I did was via keyboard, but it varies machine to machine...

May be I'm wrong :o ;D
Have a play with one you won't use again :y
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: Pete Elite on 10 September 2008, 21:24:08
  I thought you said an engineer came out, doesn't sound like much of an engineer to me, more of a to**er >:(.
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: TheBoy on 10 September 2008, 21:25:53
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 I thought you said an engineer came out, doesn't sound like much of an engineer to me, more of a to**er >:(.
Bit harsh ;)

tbh, its the level of expertise we expect from the supplier....
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: willyboy on 10 September 2008, 21:26:16
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 I thought you said an engineer came out, doesn't sound like much of an engineer to me, more of a to**er >:(.

Think I might know him  ::) ::)
Title: Re: "Engineers"
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 September 2008, 23:05:17
I once had a Gateway2000 (remember them?) "engineer" come out to my desktop at work. Machine was intermittently failing POSTs. He removed the top cover from the case and when it passed the POST tried to tell me that it must have a defective top cover because it worked without it. Then he tried to tell me the cover had been incorrectly installed.

All this when clearly in an environment where real "engineers" were going about their business. Needless to say there were a few colleagues whose chuckles could be heard across the room.  ;D

Kevin