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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: addy on 14 November 2022, 17:16:32
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I have problems with my 2.6 rear calipers. They work, but they are tatty. The bleed nipple has broke on one. I read on here that calipers from solid rear discs, can be made into vented calipers. By fitting in the spacer, from the vented caliper but it also mentions seals. Are they O rings in the spacers and can they be purchased, in repair kits?
Also can any rear caliper from any omega, work to do the conversion?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Addy
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Fundamentally yes.
The ultimate differences between the two types are the 8mm inset, slightly longer bolts and fitting kits along with 42mm pistons instead of 40mm.
The mountings are identical.
Obviously, the other approach would be to buy the non vented calipers (new or used) and a pair of 12mm solid discs.
Big red might be able to help with seals etc. If you buy a cheap used caliper from fleabay and split it, that will give you a good idea of what you will require. ;)
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Thank you DG for the quick reply.
Have used Big Red before, when refurbishing the 2ltr Omega Estate. Helpfull company. Have I understood correct, that I can fit the solid discs and calipers to match, instead of the 2.6 vented discs and calipers? Would it make any difference to braking if I changed, to the solid disc setup? Quite happy to change to the solid setup, if no noticeable braking difference.
Addy
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There shouldn't be.
However, due to the way TC operates on the DBW Omegas, GM felt it important to fit the vented discs.
In day to day terms the smidge smaller piston diameter will make next to no difference. So ultimately the choice is whether you want to keep the vented discs. Or not.
The answer to that will depend on how you drive/use the car.
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I don't drive it crazy. It's only been once above 3000rpm, since I have had it. And that was when it was being test driven, by GastronomicKleptomaniac. After some work was done on it. ;D The wife says I drive like Miss Daisy. LOL. My reply to her is there are too many idiots, out there.
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I'd be putting my efforts into refurbishing the original calipers rather than fitting the solid discs & associated calipers.
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I'd be putting my efforts into refurbishing the original calipers rather than fitting the solid discs & associated calipers.
There's also the ongoing issue of the fitting kits for the vented calipers.
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I'd be putting my efforts into refurbishing the original calipers rather than fitting the solid discs & associated calipers.
There's also the ongoing issue of the fitting kits for the vented calipers.
I can never see how the pins can wear out or break & I'm sure there must be a similar sized caliper around from AN Other vehicle that would have suitably sized anti-rattle clips. I've never looked .... but the rear vented caliper can't be such an odd ball size
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I'd be putting my efforts into refurbishing the original calipers rather than fitting the solid discs & associated calipers.
There's also the ongoing issue of the fitting kits for the vented calipers.
I can never see how the pins can wear out or break & I'm sure there must be a similar sized caliper around from AN Other vehicle that would have suitably sized anti-rattle clips. I've never looked .... but the rear vented caliper can't be such an odd ball size
They are. Thicker discs than the Vectra B and different calipers/fitting as a result. Not helped by retailers flogging tat that they think will work rather than actually knowing.
I would have overhauled the rear calipers on my 3.2 Elite, but had a complete set of Monaro calipers so ran with making them work.
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They are. Thicker discs than the Vectra B and different calipers/fitting as a result. Not helped by retailers flogging tat that they think will work rather than actually knowing.
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you're saying then that General Motors made a short production run of an odd ball caliper for a car nearing the end of its production run. More like raided their parts bin or someone else's (ATE???) for a vented disc caliper.
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if it were me i would overaul the existing calipers (or a spare pair) myself or send them off. theyre a simple caliper and no need to seperate the two halves if you dont have to.
the pins can rust thin and the spring can pop its rivet but easy enough to sort. plus i wouldnt want to downrate the brakes by fitting solids in case of future accident or insurance issues. most main insurers dont like mods
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I didn't try, but I wonder if the front calipers from a 2.0 8v would bolt straight on... 🤔
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the pins can rust thin
I suppose they could, but I had Vauxhalls my Manta with the same pin type 35+ years ago and never experienced it
and the spring can pop its rivet but easy enough to sort.
The spring on my Omega was getting a little worse for wear ie rusted, but it's only there to stop the pads from rattling .... my Manta didn't have them.
plus i wouldnt want to downrate the brakes by fitting solids in case of future accident or insurance issues. most main insurers dont like mods
Agreed. Insurers don't like alterations from stock, even if it's a positive mod
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They are. Thicker discs than the Vectra B and different calipers/fitting as a result. Not helped by retailers flogging tat that they think will work rather than actually knowing.
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you're saying then that General Motors made a short production run of an odd ball caliper for a car nearing the end of its production run. More like raided their parts bin or someone else's (ATE???) for a vented disc caliper.
I never found another application. The split shell design lends itself to being adaptable.
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I never found another application. ....
Fairy Snuff .... I never had the need to look ;)
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Mods are only a problem if undeclared and refurbishing the calipers isn't always an option.
On my black Elite were past saving. Almost no material left for the inboard pads to sit on.