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Title: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Raeturbo on 09 December 2022, 10:20:09
I see it’s the governments intention to cancel leave for the army. Why should they suffer for this
Circus of clowns mess in charge of the country?
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Varche on 09 December 2022, 11:14:20
Did you see Barosa tell everyone( including the enemy ) that Europe is desperately low on weaponry and shells etc as we have been giving them to Ukraine and not replacing them!

What is the rational behind cancelling leave? A Putin offensive maybe.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: STEMO on 09 December 2022, 11:38:34
Did you see Barosa tell everyone( including the enemy ) that Europe is desperately low on weaponry and shells etc as we have been giving them to Ukraine and not replacing them!

What is the rational behind cancelling leave? A Putin offensive maybe.
No, to drive ambulances  ::)
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Varche on 09 December 2022, 13:20:02
Presumably the MPs will cancel their leave to man the warm soup kitchens or A and E Admin. Matt Hancock for example . He has the time and skills.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Rangie on 09 December 2022, 13:53:01
Remember the fire brigade strike in the seventies & they brought the green goddesses out about as much use as a chocolate ashtray, as for the strikes I've been in public services for the majority of my working life & being totally honest most of the time it's money for old rope + there's always bags of overtime if you want it  I know nurses who were on £80 per hour years ago by working their rest days  on the bank , unfortunately some folk don't realise how well off they are. The army have no choice in being ordered in you sign on the dotted line & get on with it it's as simple as that.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Raeturbo on 09 December 2022, 15:37:40
Yes they can’t strike hence my distain👍
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Rangie on 09 December 2022, 15:48:07
Yes they can’t strike hence my distain👍
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They'll probably enjoy it blue lights & everything else that goes with it  ( attractive nurses) you have to be a " certain type" to join the army in the first place so I wouldn't worry about them..😊
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 December 2022, 16:35:29
People who get their salary from the taxpayer arent employees. They are Public servants.
Imo they should not have the option of going on strike. They signed up to public service, but if they want the advantages(?) and disadvantages the private sector have , they should go and try their luck in the private sector.
All this bullshit about nurses having to use foodbanks to survive etc. I dont believe a word of it.
The Tories have a big majority just like Thatcher had last time this happened.
They should do to the unions in the public sector what she did to the unions in the private sector.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Rangie on 09 December 2022, 16:53:50
People who get their salary from the taxpayer arent employees. They are Public servants.
Imo they should not have the option of going on strike. They signed up to public service, but if they want the advantages(?) and disadvantages the private sector have , they should go and try their luck in the private sector.
All this bullshit about nurses having to use foodbanks to survive etc. I dont believe a word of it.
The Tories have a big majority just like Thatcher had last time this happened.
They should do to the unions in the public sector what she did to the unions in the private sector.



Absolutely spot on , as I said earlier I did very well from being a public servant  it's even been reported that Prison officers  are resorting to foodbanks its utter shite, I have no time for strikes, in this life you make your own choices if you don't like it move on.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 December 2022, 18:01:51
If your in the private sector and considering going on strike, you have to take into account the damage that will cause to the company profits, which leaves them less funds for wages and rises, and ultimately the company could be put out of business with a loss of all jobs.
Non of that applies to the public sector which is why they play fast & loose with industrial action, and why they shoudnt be allowed to take it
This Tory Govt. needs to grow a pair of balls as big as Maggie had.  :)
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 December 2022, 19:20:52
Yes Rishi should pass a law that public sector worker pay rises are capped to the private sector average and if the private sector ain't getting a rise, neither should the public sector.  :y

That would make the Guardianistas choke on their lentils mind.  ::)
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Rangie on 09 December 2022, 19:30:06
Yes Rishi should pass a law that public sector worker pay rises are capped to the private sector average and if the private sector ain't getting a rise, neither should the public sector.  :y

That would make the Guardianistas choke on their lentils mind.  ::)



Rishi was in Lincolnshire today ( RAF base )  saw him on our local news he was talking a lot of sense just hope he doesn't weaken, more or less stated that he won't be held to ransom by ridiculous pay demands .
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 December 2022, 19:45:57
He talks the talk, but so far, theres no sign of him walking the walk.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 December 2022, 19:48:38
He talks the talk, but so far, theres no sign of him walking the walk.

There's been little sign of him at all to be honest.  ;D
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: ronnyd on 09 December 2022, 22:44:18
The problem with career politicians of any hue, is they have scant knowledge of life outside of their ivory towers.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Raeturbo on 09 December 2022, 23:13:09
They are invariably rich too, far more so than most of us put together will ever see. That alone makes them unsuitable to govern imo.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: ronnyd on 10 December 2022, 14:24:23
They are invariably rich too, far more so than most of us put together will ever see. That alone makes them unsuitable to govern imo.
Rishi is stinkingly rich, his wife even more so.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Raeturbo on 10 December 2022, 14:30:50
Yes indeed she is!
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: raywilb on 24 December 2022, 23:01:48
The problem with career politicians of any hue, is they have scant knowledge of life outside of their ivory towers.
agreed , but just look at the pay rises since 2013 . over £ 17.000 I believe, but  one year they went without having one, poor sods , i could probably live off a mp,s  expenses.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 December 2022, 13:50:50
Well, they all seemed very jolly checking passports in exchange for chocolates this morning.

The queues were moving much better through immigration...
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Keith ABS on 26 December 2022, 08:19:09
The problem with career politicians of any hue, is they have scant knowledge of life outside of their ivory towers.
agreed , but just look at the pay rises since 2013 . over £ 17.000 I believe, but  one year they went without having one, poor sods , i could probably live off a mp,s  expenses.

An MP,s expenses package is the same as the salary they are paid.
My ex wife worked for one as a PA, so I know what they get
Also, as an MP, they all have to be self employed
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 26 December 2022, 12:45:27
They are invariably rich too, far more so than most of us put together will ever see. That alone makes them unsuitable to govern imo.
Rishi is stinkingly rich, his wife even more so.

Good for him! 👍

I understand he made his money in the City before entering politics?  ???

I read earlier that Angela Raynor our would be Deputy PM with obvious ambitions for the top job has become worth millions since entering politics!  ::)

I wonder how she has managed that?  And who would you rather have in office?
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Raeturbo on 26 December 2022, 13:15:40
Neither, and my point was not the way he got the money, but the fact that he doesn’t have the same value on money as people with far less. I think there should be a lot more in Parliament with far less money, they can understand what it’s like when things get tough far easier than the out of touch rich kids. You don’t have to be rich to run a country. there are many people fit for the job who may not have had public schooling
 but are just as intelligent and far closer to the reality of what is going on in the real world and with the majority of the people they are supposed to be serving.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Raeturbo on 26 December 2022, 13:19:13
Besides with shower of shit (although their all the same imo) as soon as one of them get the job whoever it is, there’s a contest as to who can get them out first, their own party or the media.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 December 2022, 13:59:06
They are invariably rich too, far more so than most of us put together will ever see. That alone makes them unsuitable to govern imo.
Rishi is stinkingly rich, his wife even more so.

Good for him! 👍

I understand he made his money in the City before entering politics?  ???

I read earlier that Angela Raynor our would be Deputy PM with obvious ambitions for the top job has become worth millions since entering politics!  ::)

I wonder how she has managed that?  And who would you rather have in office?

Neither of them. Rishi worked for Goldman Sachs. Even the people in the city hate them. That aside, he is very obviously completely out of his depth as PM. As evidenced a couple of days ago when he asked the homeless man he was serving food to (for the cameras) if he ran his own business. He lives on a different planet to us, and just says and does what the SPADS tell him to do, because it went down well with the focus groups.
Raynor on the other hand is just an old slapper who has got lucky, and is an utter waste of space, skin and fresh air.
If there is a potentially good leader in this Parliament, they are doing a very good job of staying under the radar.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 December 2022, 15:51:03
Neither, and my point was not the way he got the money, but the fact that he doesn’t have the same value on money as people with far less. I think there should be a lot more in Parliament with far less money, they can understand what it’s like when things get tough far easier than the out of touch rich kids. You don’t have to be rich to run a country. there are many people fit for the job who may not have had public schooling
 but are just as intelligent and far closer to the reality of what is going on in the real world and with the majority of the people they are supposed to be serving.
That depends on where his roots are. Being wealthy as fook is acceptable, but it helps to have grown up sleeping in the car whilst working four jobs.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 December 2022, 18:19:42
I have no issue with how rich he is. But watching him at work tells me he is clueless and has no idea how to do his job in anything resembling a competent manner.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 December 2022, 18:29:19
I have no issue with how rich he is. But watching him at work tells me he is clueless and has no idea how to do his job in anything resembling a competent manner.
Bring back Bozzle
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 December 2022, 19:13:01
Dont think thats going to happen tbh. His enemies (led by Rishi) waited for their opportunity, and he handed it to them on a plate.
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 26 December 2022, 21:11:03
Yep Boris got us into this mess in the first place.  ::)
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 December 2022, 13:16:39
They are invariably rich too, far more so than most of us put together will ever see. That alone makes them unsuitable to govern imo.
Rishi is stinkingly rich, his wife even more so.

Good for him! 👍

I understand he made his money in the City before entering politics?  ???

I read earlier that Angela Raynor our would be Deputy PM with obvious ambitions for the top job has become worth millions since entering politics!  ::)

I wonder how she has managed that?  And who would you rather have in office?

Neither of them. Rishi worked for Goldman Sachs. Even the people in the city hate them. That aside, he is very obviously completely out of his depth as PM. As evidenced a couple of days ago when he asked the homeless man he was serving food to (for the cameras) if he ran his own business. He lives on a different planet to us, and just says and does what the SPADS tell him to do, because it went down well with the focus groups.
Raynor on the other hand is just an old slapper who has got lucky, and is an utter waste of space, skin and fresh air.
If there is a potentially good leader in this Parliament, they are doing a very good job of staying under the radar.

I read this and a mental picture of her ginger growler forced it's way into my mind.

I'm feeling rather unwell now. :-X
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Raeturbo on 27 December 2022, 14:10:51
God alive! Her bloody face is bad enough😱
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 December 2022, 15:18:33
God alive! Her bloody face is bad enough😱

Her growler on your face, Rae. ;D
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: raywilb on 27 December 2022, 15:46:45
I see it’s the governments intention to cancel leave for the army. Why should they suffer for this
Circus of clowns mess in charge of the country?
mp,s  have given themselves over £17,000 in pay rises since 2013 & last year they never had one,  also i bet if we were able to gain access to their expense account claims they wouldn,t be bothered about fuel costs
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: Raeturbo on 27 December 2022, 17:27:58
God alive! Her bloody face is bad enough😱

Her growler on your face, Rae. ;D

                 Oooo, you are awful DR…. 🦡
Title: Re: Taking advantage of our army
Post by: ronnyd on 27 December 2022, 18:31:09
I see it’s the governments intention to cancel leave for the army. Why should they suffer for this
Circus of clowns mess in charge of the country?
mp,s  have given themselves over £17,000 in pay rises since 2013 & last year they never had one,  also i bet if we were able to gain access to their expense account claims they wouldn,t be bothered about fuel costs
I believe that MP's pay is set by an independent pay review body, same way as the nurses pay is derived at. Saying that, whatever MPs are paid, none of them are worth it.