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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Raeturbo on 14 January 2023, 23:36:41
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https://apple.news/An4x7RawASHG13VlSYK8qgg
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Why is that a surprise?
Maths clearly wasn't his strong point ;D
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Why is that a surprise?
Maths clearly wasn't his strong point ;D
That's a requirement for a Tory Chancellor. If expenditure=income, how can their cronies possibly become millionaires?
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He is wealthy beyond our dreams yet still wants more, just sheer greed, all seems pointless to me once you reach a certain point financially .
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Why is that a surprise?
Maths clearly wasn't his strong point ;D
That's a requirement for a Tory Chancellor. If expenditure=income, how can their cronies possibly become millionaires?
Gordon Brown was no better at man maths.
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Hold on, before we all jump on the outrage bus to nowhere, the article said that Nadhim Zahari avoided paying tax by using an offshore company.
Avoiding paying tax is not illegal, evading taxes is illegal, and he may well have used the offshore company as a legal way of avoiding paying capital gains tax. If that's the case I applaud him frankly. There's nothing in the article that suggests he did anything illegal.
In fact tax avoidance is a practice that everyone should engage in, as paying more tax than you need to is just stupid. :-X
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He is wealthy beyond our dreams yet still wants more, just sheer greed, all seems pointless to me once you reach a certain point financially .
So it's OK for you to have more than the next person, as long as people don't have more than you?
You can be well off enough to be comfortable, or you can be wealthy and leave a legacy behind.
What kind of life could your grandchildren provide for their grandchildren if you were able to leave them £10,000,000 each?
It doesn't necessarily mean expensive toys and lots of big houses. But rather being able to do things that you perhaps weren't able to... Like paying for someone's petrol because they left their card at home, or someone's groceries, or funding a school minibus or a trip to Auschwitz.
You might be able to afford some of that, but you would notice it. And it would be a one off. With wealth you could wake up each morning and do a different thing each day without a care in the world.
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He is wealthy beyond our dreams yet still wants more, just sheer greed, all seems pointless to me once you reach a certain point financially .
So it's OK for you to have more than the next person, as long as people don't have more than you?
You can be well off enough to be comfortable, or you can be wealthy and leave a legacy behind.
What kind of life could your grandchildren provide for their grandchildren if you were able to leave them £10,000,000 each?
It doesn't necessarily mean expensive toys and lots of big houses. But rather being able to do things that you perhaps weren't able to... Like paying for someone's petrol because they left their card at home, or someone's groceries, or funding a school minibus or a trip to Auschwitz.
You might be able to afford some of that, but you would notice it. And it would be a one off. With wealth you could wake up each morning and do a different thing each day without a care in the world.
Yes :)
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Why is the country being run (🤣🤣). Fkd up would be better I suppose, by all Rich people, surely some people who have more moderate wealth such as maybe a couple of hundred thousand would be far more in touch with what is happening and what is needed by the majority of the population.
Money may not buy everything possible but buying control of a country shouldn’t be one of them. Just to add Zack is a Tw’a7.
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I believe that avoiding paying tax is plain common sense, because you should never give a penny of your money to Politicians if you can avoid it, as they will almost certainly waste it.
Its not an excuse a politician could easily use though. :D
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Why is the country being run (🤣🤣). Fkd up would be better I suppose, by all Rich people, surely some people who have more moderate wealth such as maybe a couple of hundred thousand would be far more in touch with what is happening and what is needed by the majority of the population.
Money may not buy everything possible but buying control of a country shouldn’t be one of them. Just to add Zack is a Tw’a7.
too right, Billy Connolly did say those that desire to be a mp should be barred for life from becoming one, i agreed back then & i agree now ,
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Why is the country being run (🤣🤣). Fkd up would be better I suppose, by all Rich people, surely some people who have more moderate wealth such as maybe a couple of hundred thousand would be far more in touch with what is happening and what is needed by the majority of the population.
Money may not buy everything possible but buying control of a country shouldn’t be one of them. Just to add Zack is a Tw’a7.
too right, Billy Connolly did say those that desire to be a mp should be barred for life from becoming one, i agreed back then & i agree now ,
And what would that solve? A load of people who don't want to do the job would be even less effective.
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And what would that solve? A load of people who don't want to do the job would be even less effective.
I'm not sure that's true. :-\
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And what would that solve? A load of people who don't want to do the job would be even less effective.
I'm not sure that's true. :-\
Well, you know when you interact with a business and get the impression that they really aren't trying but can't prove it... That is until you interact with the one person who goes above and beyond and your suspicion is confirmed.
That person is either carrying that business or they own it.
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Why is the country being run (🤣🤣). Fkd up would be better I suppose, by all Rich people, surely some people who have more moderate wealth such as maybe a couple of hundred thousand would be far more in touch with what is happening and what is needed by the majority of the population.
Money may not buy everything possible but buying control of a country shouldn’t be one of them. Just to add Zack is a Tw’a7.
too right, Billy Connolly did say those that desire to be a mp should be barred for life from becoming one, i agreed back then & i agree now ,
And what would that solve? A load of people who don't want to do the job would be even less effective.
i think you missed the point.
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Why is the country being run (🤣🤣). Fkd up would be better I suppose, by all Rich people, surely some people who have more moderate wealth such as maybe a couple of hundred thousand would be far more in touch with what is happening and what is needed by the majority of the population.
Money may not buy everything possible but buying control of a country shouldn’t be one of them. Just to add Zack is a Tw’a7.
too right, Billy Connolly did say those that desire to be a mp should be barred for life from becoming one, i agreed back then & i agree now ,
And what would that solve? A load of people who don't want to do the job would be even less effective.
i think you missed the point.
What, that they're ineffective wasters? 🤔 That's not news.
That sketch was funny at the time, he said much the same about people who want to be policemen. The issue isn't whether someone wants to do something or not, but rather their motivation for wanting to do it...
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Why is the country being run (🤣🤣). Fkd up would be better I suppose, by all Rich people, surely some people who have more moderate wealth such as maybe a couple of hundred thousand would be far more in touch with what is happening and what is needed by the majority of the population.
Money may not buy everything possible but buying control of a country shouldn’t be one of them. Just to add Zack is a Tw’a7.
too right, Billy Connolly did say those that desire to be a mp should be barred for life from becoming one, i agreed back then & i agree now ,
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Got to agree I have exactly the same sentiments.
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This fu(ker is still at it, shameless bastard!
https://apple.news/AarGRxZBNQiu0yRoejW8zFQ
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If you had the type of wealth that these people seem, would you not do anything legally reasonable to protect it.
As would the 'journalist' writing the piece.
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Fair point.. maybe.. but it doesn’t stop me detesting him and his corrupt brethren. It’s very rare when you see they have ‘overpaid’ in the press.
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Fair point.. maybe.. but it doesn’t stop me detesting him and his corrupt brethren. It’s very rare when you see they have ‘overpaid’ in the press.
Consider that the 'press' wouldn't deem that newsworthy ;)
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Anyway if I come into that sort of money I’d give some of it to you mothers and write it off as charity👍👍👍🤣😂
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Fair point.. maybe.. but it doesn’t stop me detesting him and his corrupt brethren. It’s very rare when you see they have ‘overpaid’ in the press.
Consider that the 'press' wouldn't deem that newsworthy ;)
Of course… it would not fit in to the criteria required by BBC, SKY, etc they are too interested pushing the LGTQVFHJJ whatever the fk it is this week agenda
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Fair point.. maybe.. but it doesn’t stop me detesting him and his corrupt brethren. It’s very rare when you see they have ‘overpaid’ in the press.
If he earned it selling children's organs on the black market, or somesuch equally nefarious endeavour, then the maybe would be warranted.
The price of entry is £500 if you think you* can do any better...
https://www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/members/electing-mps/candidates/
*you being anyone of us.
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I can't be arsed to read every response on this.
Unfortunately we live in an age where it's all about moral point-scoring. Everyone and every news outlet is looking for something to get outraged about according to political direction.
I'm not denying that he was on the fiddle. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. But as the saying goes "Let he that is without sin cast the first stone".
I have quite a dislike of of politicians on all sides of the House. If they were any good at anything they wouldn' be there, they'd be doing something useful. Why be a career politician? because you're not good at anything else.
I sometimes think that the whole game is about who's best at covering stuff up. (BTW, why was Nick Brown suspended?)
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Who? ???
Labour Cheif whip... Following a complaint. Probably about the bullying of women within the party. None of which should be a surprise.
But like I said, anyone who thinks they can do better is welcome to put themselves forward.
If you got 1,000 independents to stand in every constituency upon their name and nothing else, and was voted for by ten people who knew them, then you wouldn't see so much ingrained nonsense in Westminster.
Actually, that might form the basis of a campaign. A truly non affiliated government of peers.
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Right that’s good enough for me get it done you’ll have my vote👍
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Who? ???
Labour Cheif whip... Following a complaint. Probably about the bullying of women within the party. None of which should be a surprise.
But like I said, anyone who thinks they can do better is welcome to put themselves forward.
If you got 1,000 independents to stand in every constituency upon their name and nothing else, and was voted for by ten people who knew them, then you wouldn't see so much ingrained nonsense in Westminster.
Actually, that might form the basis of a campaign. A truly non affiliated government of peers.
Be very careful of what you wish for, because those organisations already exist - they're the Parish Councils, PTAs, school governors, niche charities, Scout troops, local history groups, Friends of ~~~~~ and many others. They all consist of well-meaning but ineffective, power-crazed, lack-of-power crazed, frustrated/frustrating, lonely, retired, single/woolly minded etc etc people with nothing better to do. Pick at least a couple of those characteristics for every member. The best of them somehow manage to sort of achieve things, some of the time. Many of them are just a joke, and the worst are a menace. Most of us will have connections with at least one such group - mine is the county bell-ringing association, in all it's barely relevant Victorian 'glory'. Internet forums are frequently good examples ::)
Those are reasons why the most enduring forms of government are the ones that evolved and weren't carefully designed to be better - just look at the American constitution for an example of something that should have, and needs to change but isn't allowed to.
What is really needed is accountability for all officials, and an effective, transparent means of enforcing it. The latter is what is lacking in modern politics, as we seem to accept that corruption and government as entertainment is both normal and even desirable.
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I would agree with most of that. I dont look on corruption as entertaining or desirable though.
I just sadly accept that one tribe is as bad as the other, and dont think theres currently much that can be done about it.
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I would agree with most of that. I dont look on corruption as entertaining or desirable though.
I just sadly accept that one tribe is as bad as the other, and dont think theres currently much that can be done about it.
That's what's wrong with the thinking. Break them up ;)
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Well, I wouldnt vote for any of the parties who are represented in Parliament at the moment, so not much else I can do.
They will only break up when almost no-one votes for them, but people support them like supporting a football team.
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Because there's no alternative. So people don't bother voting. Which leaves the door open every time.
Give people something else to vote for. The only USP must be that it isn't one of the traditional parties. ie stand for nothing but not being one of them.
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Well, I wouldnt vote for any of the parties who are represented in Parliament at the moment, so not much else I can do.
They will only break up when almost no-one votes for them, but people support them like supporting a football team.
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Yes I agree, seems strange that they all seem to have the answers but generally nothing seems to improve, corruption is rife amongst all the parties & they still get support, I wouldn't give any of them the steam off my piss.
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I would agree with most of that. I dont look on corruption as entertaining or desirable though.
I just sadly accept that one tribe is as bad as the other, and dont think theres currently much that can be done about it.
That's what's wrong with the thinking. Break them up ;)
Break out the ones that have proved to be corrupt/law breakers/utterly incompetent/etc. This applies to everyone in government, starting with the PM, through MPs, senior civil servants, Police Commissioners, councillors etc. Having them publicly face personal consequences for their actions would make a big difference, and is provided for if we actually enforced existing rules. Amazingly, the Conservatives recently managed the utterly incompetent bit by getting rid of Liz Truss :o [size=78%].[/size]
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I would agree with most of that. I dont look on corruption as entertaining or desirable though.
Explain Boris' or Farage's popularity then.
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In what way is Farage corrupt ?
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Because there's no alternative. So people don't bother voting. Which leaves the door open every time.
Give people something else to vote for. The only USP must be that it isn't one of the traditional parties. ie stand for nothing but not being one of them.
There are alternatives though. I vote Reform UK and think Richard Tice speaks a lot of sense.
If people dont like that as an alternative, there are always plenty of independent candidates.
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Because there's no alternative. So people don't bother voting. Which leaves the door open every time.
Give people something else to vote for. The only USP must be that it isn't one of the traditional parties. ie stand for nothing but not being one of them.
There are alternatives though. I vote Reform UK and think Richard Tice speaks a lot of sense.
If people dont like that as an alternative, there are always plenty of independent candidates.
Exactly. Anyone, well almost, can stand if they don't like the status quo ;)
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Fine words. But the Tories or Labour will continue to swap places for as long as this country remains a democracy. Red or blue are the only choice, a vote for yellow, green or pink with lilac spots is a wasted vote usually. The only time that this is not true is when a party like UKIP threaten to split a mainstream party's vote. Then that mainstream party has to modify it's manifesto, but still gets voted in.
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Remember when we said that, if Labour got in, they would tax and spend and skint the country, as they always do. Giving money away to idle bastards while increasing taxes.
Well....
(https://i.ibb.co/XkYKQZY/687-D9095-61-DE-4409-A638-4-A47-D6-F977-EB.png) (https://ibb.co/Vpwz1Ww)
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That is shocking.
We have a friend in the East Midlands. Her neighbour is a good example. She has a good life on state support and a son who doesnt work. The reason? “ He openly admits he wouldnt be able to get up in a morning” They have streaming services.
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Fine words. But the Tories or Labour will continue to swap places for as long as this country remains a democracy. Red or blue are the only choice, a vote for yellow, green or pink with lilac spots is a wasted vote usually. The only time that this is not true is when a party like UKIP threaten to split a mainstream party's vote. Then that mainstream party has to modify it's manifesto, but still gets voted in.
A couple of hundred independents would soon disrupt the status quo.
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That is shocking.
We have a friend in the East Midlands. Her neighbour is a good example. She has a good life on state support and a son who doesnt work. The reason? “ He openly admits he wouldnt be able to get up in a morning” They have streaming services.
The amount payable from the benefits system should be capped at what the recipient would otherwise be worth in the labour market, minus a percentage that ensures they do get up in the morning.
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In what way is Farage corrupt ?
He was more of the entertainment side. Although being an MEP while campaigning to leave isn't particularly impressive. And where did the money for over twenty years of campaigning come from?
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At least he pays his taxes 😉
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Looks like I was right then.👍 like usual 🤣