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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: ronnyd on 22 January 2023, 20:42:51
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I've just read that they are asking the operators of three coal fired power stations to start to get them ready to go on line if this cold snap lasts much longer.
That'll start a meltdown amongst certain members of the population. :)
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Good may put a bit of sense into the idiots who think the electric comes from the fairies🧚🧚🏻♀️
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Radcliffe on Soar has been running for a few days now
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The government asked Drax to re open the coal fired plant earlier this year,
they are bringing coal in in biomas trucks, shh
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See here!
https://gridwatch.co.uk/
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The government asked Drax to re open the coal fired plant earlier this year,
they are bringing coal in in biomas trucks, shh
Is it British Coal, or that stuff from the EU, or STH America bloody Brexit
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A slight deviation so apologies to the OP, but I'm mulling fitting a woodburner/multi fuel and was checking out the prices of logs and coal the other day.
A local coal merchant had a notice on it's website that said that due to new regulations they are only allowed to deliver coal in open bags. Coal or smokeless oval/briquettes that are delivered in sealed plastic bags will have the bags slit open on delivery to comply with the regulations. ::)
What's that about? ??? :-\
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A slight deviation so apologies to the OP, but I'm mulling fitting a woodburner/multi fuel and was checking out the prices of logs and coal the other day.
A local coal merchant had a notice on it's website that said that due to new regulations they are only allowed to deliver coal in open bags. Coal or smokeless oval/briquettes that are delivered in sealed plastic bags will have the bags slit open on delivery to comply with the regulations. ::)
What's that about? ??? :-\
Interesting. I'm in the process of maybe replacing or maybe repairing our ancient solid fuel Rayburn.
I came across this . . . .
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/selling-coal-for-domestic-use-in-england
It's unclear if this covers what are called "Ovoids" which are permitted in my area. I'm not sure what they mean by "traditional house coal" I think this is the lumps of stuff as it comes from the ground. I now need to find out if any of this affects the Ovoids that are widely available.
I have gas water and central heating but I like the idea of additional solid fuel when you know exactly what you're spending and using. Yes, I know it's very un-trendy and frowned upon, but I like having an independent source of energy.
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We used to live in a village where there is no mains gas, so your options are :
Bottled gas
Oil
Electricity
Coal
Peat
Our house had a coal boiler and an open fireplace. We used to have power cuts every time it was a bit breezy. Which meant that quite often we would have heating and hot water, although the boiler had a mechanical timer, it relied on electricity to ignite. However, it did have a back up mechanical igniter. And the fire was used for cooking.
Suffice to say there's still a coal merchant in the village.
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A slight deviation so apologies to the OP, but I'm mulling fitting a woodburner/multi fuel and was checking out the prices of logs and coal the other day.
A local coal merchant had a notice on it's website that said that due to new regulations they are only allowed to deliver coal in open bags. Coal or smokeless oval/briquettes that are delivered in sealed plastic bags will have the bags slit open on delivery to comply with the regulations. ::)
What's that about? ??? :-\
Just been playing with my google and the only thing that I can find is:
Q: How should I store my coal?
A: If you order it loose then ideally in a bunker or in a dry corner of your shed. If you order in pre-packed bags store them either in a garage/shed or under tarpaulin. Store away from prolonged spells of direct sunlight as this will cause the bags to become brittle. If you open a bag at least a day or two before use this should give your coal/smokeless fuel sufficient enough time to get the air to be dry enough for your fire.
There are other clues and I'm assuming that the bags are open so that the coal is not damp and burns properly, so does not produce nasty fumes which are bad for the environment/you. Similar to only burning seasoned wood, I'm guessing.
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A slight deviation so apologies to the OP, but I'm mulling fitting a woodburner/multi fuel and was checking out the prices of logs and coal the other day.
A local coal merchant had a notice on it's website that said that due to new regulations they are only allowed to deliver coal in open bags. Coal or smokeless oval/briquettes that are delivered in sealed plastic bags will have the bags slit open on delivery to comply with the regulations. ::)
What's that about? ??? :-\
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Just checking there's no Coke or Heroin in it..👍
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bagged ovals seem to be wet, nothing to do with selling you a pint or two of water at fuel price??
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And the fact their are some rebates for those not using electric at peak hours means I don't believe the Grid when they say there is no worry about a supply disruption in the next few days.
Many power stations take days to actually start up.
I have a strange fascination with power stations, and have been lucky enough to have been on some great tours around them, including one of the stored hydros in Blaenau (no longer open for tours) into the real workings of it, and the nearby decommed nuclear at Trawsfynydd where we were allowed into the room above the react where they load fuel in. Can you imagine that being allowed now? And who can forget the OOF trip to Drax, that was a cracking day, with the old geezer overriding the tour bimbos about where we could and couldn't go ;D
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A slight deviation so apologies to the OP, but I'm mulling fitting a woodburner/multi fuel and was checking out the prices of logs and coal the other day.
A local coal merchant had a notice on it's website that said that due to new regulations they are only allowed to deliver coal in open bags. Coal or smokeless oval/briquettes that are delivered in sealed plastic bags will have the bags slit open on delivery to comply with the regulations. ::)
What's that about? ??? :-\
That's peculiar , I'd be asking the supplier for a source of the regulations that state that requirement .
Over here in IE real black coal is unavailable and we are forced to burn the smokeless ovals .
These cost €35 a bag (£32ish) real coal was quoted to me at €46 a 40KG bag when it was believed that it would be available . :o
Initially I was OK burning the smokeless stuff but during the recent cold snap I broke into my stash of real coal that I kept and was amazed at the difference of heat between the two.
The stove fans run at turbo speed when burning the real stuff but sort of tick over on the ovals .
I'm burning Ash timber at present so the output from the stoves is still acceptable .
My coal supplier is a good friend and he has told me that there is no available black coal but he believes that it has been withdrawn from the market using the Energy Crisis as a reason/excuse but it is actually been forced on IE by the EU to get us to comply with their emmissions target that IE has failed to meet year upon year .
I have noticed much more of the tell tale smell of peat /turf being burned as locals turn to suppliers who have decided to ignore the countrywide ban on turf cutting .
There is genuine hardship down here amongst the elderly who live on a single pension is houses that are old and inadaquetly insulated.
But hey , they may be cold but they're saving the planet ........
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A slight deviation so apologies to the OP, but I'm mulling fitting a woodburner/multi fuel and was checking out the prices of logs and coal the other day.
A local coal merchant had a notice on it's website that said that due to new regulations they are only allowed to deliver coal in open bags. Coal or smokeless oval/briquettes that are delivered in sealed plastic bags will have the bags slit open on delivery to comply with the regulations. ::)
What's that about? ??? :-\
That's peculiar , I'd be asking the supplier for a source of the regulations that state that requirement .
Over here in IE real black coal is unavailable and we are forced to burn the smokeless ovals .
These cost €35 a bag (£32ish) real coal was quoted to me at €46 a 40KG bag when it was believed that it would be available . :o
Initially I was OK burning the smokeless stuff but during the recent cold snap I broke into my stash of real coal that I kept and was amazed at the difference of heat between the two.
The stove fans run at turbo speed when burning the real stuff but sort of tick over on the ovals .
I'm burning Ash timber at present so the output from the stoves is still acceptable .
My coal supplier is a good friend and he has told me that there is no available black coal but he believes that it has been withdrawn from the market using the Energy Crisis as a reason/excuse but it is actually been forced on IE by the EU to get us to comply with their emmissions target that IE has failed to meet year upon year .
I have noticed much more of the tell tale smell of peat /turf being burned as locals turn to suppliers who have decided to ignore the countrywide ban on turf cutting .
There is genuine hardship down here amongst the elderly who live on a single pension is houses that are old and inadaquetly insulated.
But hey , they may be cold but they're saving the planet ........
Here it is, Don
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/selling-coal-for-domestic-use-in-england
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A slight deviation so apologies to the OP, but I'm mulling fitting a woodburner/multi fuel and was checking out the prices of logs and coal the other day.
A local coal merchant had a notice on it's website that said that due to new regulations they are only allowed to deliver coal in open bags. Coal or smokeless oval/briquettes that are delivered in sealed plastic bags will have the bags slit open on delivery to comply with the regulations. ::)
What's that about? ??? :-\
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Just checking there's no Coke or Heroin in it..👍
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;D ;D
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I love the smell of burning peat / turf. It reminds me of childhood holidays in the wilds of Donegal. 8)
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I love the smell of burning peat / turf. It reminds me of childhood holidays in the wilds of Donegal. 8)
I wonder how many eco mentalists appreciate the irony that one of the most diverse and lovely parts of East Anglia only exist because Lundun was built by burning peat ::)
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I love the smell of burning peat / turf. It reminds me of childhood holidays in the wilds of Donegal. 8)
I wonder how many eco mentalists appreciate the irony that one of the most diverse and lovely parts of East Anglia only exist because Lundun was built by burning peat ::)
so burning peat = places like London :-\
that seems like a good argument to ban burning peat to me :P
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I love the smell of burning peat / turf. It reminds me of childhood holidays in the wilds of Donegal. 8)
I wonder how many eco mentalists appreciate the irony that one of the most diverse and lovely parts of East Anglia only exist because Lundun was built by burning peat ::)
so burning peat = places like London :-\
that seems like a good argument to ban burning peat to me :P
Perhaps they should encourage it...
The benefits would be two-fold.
1. It would smell better.
2. The extra smoke would make it look better too.
And if it happens to burn to the ground in the process...
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Wouldn’t be the first time🤣🔥🔥
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Wouldn’t be the first time🤣🔥🔥
Unfortunately, concrete doesn't burn as well as wood. ;)
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Or puddings
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A slight deviation so apologies to the OP, but I'm mulling fitting a woodburner/multi fuel and was checking out the prices of logs and coal the other day.
A local coal merchant had a notice on it's website that said that due to new regulations they are only allowed to deliver coal in open bags. Coal or smokeless oval/briquettes that are delivered in sealed plastic bags will have the bags slit open on delivery to comply with the regulations. ::)
What's that about? ??? :-\
That's peculiar , I'd be asking the supplier for a source of the regulations that state that requirement .
Over here in IE real black coal is unavailable and we are forced to burn the smokeless ovals .
These cost €35 a bag (£32ish) real coal was quoted to me at €46 a 40KG bag when it was believed that it would be available . :o
Initially I was OK burning the smokeless stuff but during the recent cold snap I broke into my stash of real coal that I kept and was amazed at the difference of heat between the two.
The stove fans run at turbo speed when burning the real stuff but sort of tick over on the ovals .
I'm burning Ash timber at present so the output from the stoves is still acceptable .
My coal supplier is a good friend and he has told me that there is no available black coal but he believes that it has been withdrawn from the market using the Energy Crisis as a reason/excuse but it is actually been forced on IE by the EU to get us to comply with their emmissions target that IE has failed to meet year upon year .
I have noticed much more of the tell tale smell of peat /turf being burned as locals turn to suppliers who have decided to ignore the countrywide ban on turf cutting .
There is genuine hardship down here amongst the elderly who live on a single pension is houses that are old and inadaquetly insulated.
But hey , they may be cold but they're saving the planet ........
Just for info, my local price for 20Kg bag of Ovoids is £12. No delivery, collection only. Last year they were £8.
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Just for info, my local price for 20Kg bag of Ovoids is £12. No delivery, collection only. Last year they were £8.
How long does that last Rog? ???
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Just for info, my local price for 20Kg bag of Ovoids is £12. No delivery, collection only. Last year they were £8.
How long does that last Rog? ???
So many variables. The big one is whether it's kept going 24 hours a day or just fired up when required. Also, if you intend using it to cook then higher temperatures needed, so more fuel usage. During last year price has jumped from £8 to £12 per 20kg bag. Quite a jump. In my old cold stone built house the kitchen is in the centre with master bedroom above, my purpose is simply local heat. I used to reckon a bag a week, kept low at night.
Our Rayburn has been out of order for almost a year due to a boiler leak, and trying to get someone to fix it is a nightmare. But, where I live getting anyone to do anything is a nightmare. Now considering replacement. Maybe one of these
https://en.wamsler.hu/