Omega Owners Forum
Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: JamesV6CDX on 11 September 2008, 19:06:41
-
On a train back from Gloucester to Cardiff this evening - as we were approaching Newport from near the Freight yard, there were some teenagers, walking along the mainline!!
Immediately I alerted the conductor - he said "I'll see what the driver says". Went back in his cab - came out - "Drive says it's on the other side so we aren't going to do anything about it"
I said "You're not going to do ANYTHING about it?"
"Nope" he said.
I was stunned, and left with no choice - so I called British Transport Police on my mobile and told them about it.
Strangely, all trains came to a rather abrupt stop very shortly afterwards - causing some notable delays ::)
Really, though - I could not believe the approach of those staff over something so safety critical.
Oh well - the departure boards in Cardiff were quite "interesting" to say the least, when I got in - good job nobody knows it was my fault or I wouldn't be popular ;D
-
On a train back from Gloucester to Cardiff this evening - as we were approaching Newport from near the Freight yard, there were some teenagers, walking along the mainline!!
Immediately I alerted the conductor - he said "I'll see what the driver says". Went back in his cab - came out - "Drive says it's on the other side so we aren't going to do anything about it"
I said "You're not going to do ANYTHING about it?"
"Nope" he said.
I was stunned, and left with no choice - so I called British Transport Police on my mobile and told them about it.
Strangely, all trains came to a rather abrupt stop very shortly afterwards - causing some notable delays ::)
Really, though - I could not believe the approach of those staff over something so safety critical.
Oh well - the departure boards in Cardiff were quite "interesting" to say the least, when I got in - good job nobody knows it was my fault or I wouldn't be popular ;D
It's the idiots on the line who should be unpopular !!!!
-
On a train back from Gloucester to Cardiff this evening - as we were approaching Newport from near the Freight yard, there were some teenagers, walking along the mainline!!
Immediately I alerted the conductor - he said "I'll see what the driver says". Went back in his cab - came out - "Drive says it's on the other side so we aren't going to do anything about it"
I said "You're not going to do ANYTHING about it?"
"Nope" he said.
I was stunned, and left with no choice - so I called British Transport Police on my mobile and told them about it.
Strangely, all trains came to a rather abrupt stop very shortly afterwards - causing some notable delays ::)
Really, though - I could not believe the approach of those staff over something so safety critical.
Oh well - the departure boards in Cardiff were quite "interesting" to say the least, when I got in - good job nobody knows it was my fault or I wouldn't be popular ;D
It's the idiots on the line who should be unpopular !!!!
Indeedy - but you'd be surprised the number of passengers neadby that didn't want me to make that call, so they could get home on time!
-
On a train back from Gloucester to Cardiff this evening - as we were approaching Newport from near the Freight yard, there were some teenagers, walking along the mainline!!
Immediately I alerted the conductor - he said "I'll see what the driver says". Went back in his cab - came out - "Drive says it's on the other side so we aren't going to do anything about it"
I said "You're not going to do ANYTHING about it?"
"Nope" he said.
I was stunned, and left with no choice - so I called British Transport Police on my mobile and told them about it.
Strangely, all trains came to a rather abrupt stop very shortly afterwards - causing some notable delays ::)
Really, though - I could not believe the approach of those staff over something so safety critical.
Oh well - the departure boards in Cardiff were quite "interesting" to say the least, when I got in - good job nobody knows it was my fault or I wouldn't be popular ;D
They do now ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Seriously though u did the right thing :)
-
Really, though - I could not believe the approach of those staff over something so safety critical.
Sounds like they knew exactly what would be the consequences of reporting it (getting home late) and turned a blind eye. >:(
Kevin
-
Bloody trouble maker!! ;D
-
Bloody trouble maker!! ;D
<<<<< Angel ::)
-
On a train back from Gloucester to Cardiff this evening - as we were approaching Newport from near the Freight yard, there were some teenagers, walking along the mainline!!
Immediately I alerted the conductor - he said "I'll see what the driver says". Went back in his cab - came out - "Drive says it's on the other side so we aren't going to do anything about it"
I said "You're not going to do ANYTHING about it?"
"Nope" he said.
I was stunned, and left with no choice - so I called British Transport Police on my mobile and told them about it.
Strangely, all trains came to a rather abrupt stop very shortly afterwards - causing some notable delays ::)
Really, though - I could not believe the approach of those staff over something so safety critical.
Oh well - the departure boards in Cardiff were quite "interesting" to say the least, when I got in - good job nobody knows it was my fault or I wouldn't be popular ;D
It's the idiots on the line who should be unpopular !!!!
Indeedy - but you'd be surprised the number of passengers neadby that didn't want me to make that call, so they could get home on time!
Money........ (no delays) springs to mind before safety. ::) You may have saved their lives. :y
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
I believe you are right TB, actually.
But in balance, I would never live with myself if I went home and saw on the news they had been mowed down.
I felt I had to do it :y
-
TBH though -- if the only consequence of the incident was going to be the idiots getting killed I would have left them to it -- might make others think twice if they knew the world wasn't going to stop to save their sorry behinds! Unfortunately though, we all know only too well their untimely end isn't the only messy outcome!
Edit -- must type faster -- beaten to the punch by TB ::)
-
TBH though -- if the only consequence of the incident was going to be the idiots getting killed I would have left them to it -- might make others think twice if they knew the world wasn't going to stop to save their sorry behinds! Unfortunately though, we all know only too well their untimely end isn't the only messy outcome!
I would feel just as bad for the people that have to do the cleanup, and for the driver that has to live with the experience.
I agree it is utterly stupid to walk on a railway - but I can't say with any conviction that they deserve to die for it :)
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
I believe you are right TB, actually.
But in balance, I would never live with myself if I went home and saw on the news they had been mowed down.
I felt I had to do it :y
i wouldn't have lost sleep - 2 less retarded idiots in the world is a good thing.
feel for the driver though - i believe they have to clean the bits up?
-
TBH though -- if the only consequence of the incident was going to be the idiots getting killed I would have left them to it -- might make others think twice if they knew the world wasn't going to stop to save their sorry behinds! Unfortunately though, we all know only too well their untimely end isn't the only messy outcome!
I would feel just as bad for the people that have to do the cleanup, and for the driver that has to live with the experience.
I agree it is utterly stupid to walk on a railway - but I can't say with any conviction that they deserve to die for it :)
bloody liberals ;D
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
I believe you are right TB, actually.
But in balance, I would never live with myself if I went home and saw on the news they had been mowed down.
I felt I had to do it :y
i wouldn't have lost sleep - 2 less retarded idiots in the world is a good thing.
feel for the driver though - i believe they have to clean the bits up?
Good grief! I actually agree with Jaime.
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
I believe you are right TB, actually.
But in balance, I would never live with myself if I went home and saw on the news they had been mowed down.
I felt I had to do it :y
i wouldn't have lost sleep - 2 less retarded idiots in the world is a good thing.
feel for the driver though - i believe they have to clean the bits up?
I have personally known drivers never get in a train again after hitting someone on the line -- I have also spent more time than I would like picking bits up too !!! As I said -- if it were not for the messy consequences........
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
I believe you are right TB, actually.
But in balance, I would never live with myself if I went home and saw on the news they had been mowed down.
I felt I had to do it :y
i wouldn't have lost sleep - 2 less retarded idiots in the world is a good thing.
feel for the driver though - i believe they have to clean the bits up?
I suspect it's BTP that do the cleanup OP, I can't see how a driver would be expected to pickup body parts ::)
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
I believe you are right TB, actually.
But in balance, I would never live with myself if I went home and saw on the news they had been mowed down.
I felt I had to do it :y
i wouldn't have lost sleep - 2 less retarded idiots in the world is a good thing.
feel for the driver though - i believe they have to clean the bits up?
Good grief! I actually agree with Jaime.
Was it Dawin that suggested the idea of natural selection...?
-
Clearing up the bits? It would not be the driver, of that I am 100% certain.
It is a BTP responsibility which may (or probably may not) be transferred onto a contracted undertaker. I would still suggest that its one of the 'sticky' jobs that El Plod simply have to do and get on with it.... :'(
-
[/quote] But in balance, I would never live with myself if I went home and saw on the news they had been mowed down.
I felt I had to do it :y[/quote]
I'll keep my eye on the news. :D
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
I believe you are right TB, actually.
But in balance, I would never live with myself if I went home and saw on the news they had been mowed down.
I felt I had to do it :y
i wouldn't have lost sleep - 2 less retarded idiots in the world is a good thing.
feel for the driver though - i believe they have to clean the bits up?
Good grief! I actually agree with Jaime.
Was it Dawin that suggested the idea of natural selection...?
exactly - survival of the fittest. we do not want these idiots adding stupidity of gene pool....
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
I believe you are right TB, actually.
But in balance, I would never live with myself if I went home and saw on the news they had been mowed down.
I felt I had to do it :y
i wouldn't have lost sleep - 2 less retarded idiots in the world is a good thing.
feel for the driver though - i believe they have to clean the bits up?
Good grief! I actually agree with Jaime.
Was it Dawin that suggested the idea of natural selection...?
exactly - survival of the fittest. we do not want these idiots adding stupidity of gene pool....
If they want to paddle at the shallow end, let them. Pity the driver sees it all though....
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
I believe you are right TB, actually.
But in balance, I would never live with myself if I went home and saw on the news they had been mowed down.
I felt I had to do it :y
i wouldn't have lost sleep - 2 less retarded idiots in the world is a good thing.
feel for the driver though - i believe they have to clean the bits up?
I suspect it's BTP that do the cleanup OP, I can't see how a driver would be expected to pickup body parts ::)
i know a few years ago i was nearby when a chiltern diesel hit an asian lady on a crossing. Awful noise. The driver waited for old bill, they started wiping down his train. I was up a pole at the time, literally birds eye view....
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
I believe you are right TB, actually.
But in balance, I would never live with myself if I went home and saw on the news they had been mowed down.
I felt I had to do it :y
i wouldn't have lost sleep - 2 less retarded idiots in the world is a good thing.
feel for the driver though - i believe they have to clean the bits up?
Good grief! I actually agree with Jaime.
Was it Dawin that suggested the idea of natural selection...?
exactly - survival of the fittest. we do not want these idiots adding stupidity of gene pool....
If they want to paddle at the shallow end, let them. Pity the driver sees it all though....
pretty certain they have to clear up stray sheep/dog bits as well....
-
Clearing up the bits? It would not be the driver, of that I am 100% certain.
It is a BTP responsibility which may (or probably may not) be transferred onto a contracted undertaker. I would still suggest that its one of the 'sticky' jobs that El Plod simply have to do and get on with it.... :'(
Probably varies by Force -- in west Sussex it used to be BTP (all one of him) and local plod -- with the fire boys hosing the slime down (not forgetting to switch off the live rail!!!)
-
Clearing up the bits? It would not be the driver, of that I am 100% certain.
It is a BTP responsibility which may (or probably may not) be transferred onto a contracted undertaker. I would still suggest that its one of the 'sticky' jobs that El Plod simply have to do and get on with it.... :'(
Probably varies by Force -- in west Sussex it used to be BTP (all one of him) and local plod -- with the fire boys hosing the slime down (not forgetting to switch off the live rail!!!)
Its BTP's beat, not the local force area... :y
-
The driver I would feel sorry for, the bin men who have to celar up the mess I would feel sorry for, even the family I might feel sorry for.......the daft gits walking on the line I dont!
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
I believe you are right TB, actually.
But in balance, I would never live with myself if I went home and saw on the news they had been mowed down.
I felt I had to do it :y
i wouldn't have lost sleep - 2 less retarded idiots in the world is a good thing.
feel for the driver though - i believe they have to clean the bits up?
Have to agree with you there!
To many idiots about, anyway way which lowers this number is a good thing!
-
The driver I would feel sorry for, the bin men who have to celar up the mess I would feel sorry for, even the family I might feel sorry for.......the daft gits walking on the line I dont!
Don't forget the station staff, my girlfriend works at Cov station & often sees the remains on the front of trains.
If James hadn't phoned & one of them got mowed down the delays could have been far worse...
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
too true!
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
too true!
Sod the chavs...
Put a tenner under a stone in the centre of the track, just before a the intercity train comes through at full speed :D
-
ME tooooooo, Typical louts :y
-
Im pretty certain it would the Transport Police that would have to clear the mess up.........however......cancelling trains etc is expensive for the operating companies.....
I know that if GW trains cancel a service (that may have happened in a case like James witnessed) they get fined £4k......plus have to pay for taxi's for travellers missing connections.....GW trains....im told....spent £70k on taxi's in one month....for connections missed....
So the the train comps are probably under a lot of pressure by the bosses not to interupt services.
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
Don't give a sod for the trespassers, it is the poor driver I pity and yes drivers have won compensation from suicide estates.
And you are likely to be gathered up in a wheel barrow
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
I believe you are right TB, actually.
But in balance, I would never live with myself if I went home and saw on the news they had been mowed down.
I felt I had to do it :y
I couldn't live with myself for having the driver go through it - sod the trespassers
-
I would feel just as bad for the people that have to do the cleanup, and for the driver that has to live with the experience.
I agree it is utterly stupid to walk on a railway - but I can't say with any conviction that they deserve to die for it :)
i wouldn't have lost sleep - 2 less retarded idiots in the world is a good thing.
feel for the driver though - i believe they have to clean the bits up?
The victim in these cases is always the driver, usually they end up on shunting, or having to leave the job, the cleaner uppers rely on black humour.
There are two things which ruin drivers careers, selfish suicides and bricks through cab windows.
All trespassers are potential suicide cases.
-
Clearing up the bits? It would not be the driver, of that I am 100% certain.
It is a BTP responsibility which may (or probably may not) be transferred onto a contracted undertaker. I would still suggest that its one of the 'sticky' jobs that El Plod simply have to do and get on with it.... :'(
Definately not drivers - yes could be BTP
-
It won't be a HO Force if it's on the railways...
-
The driver I would feel sorry for, the bin men who have to celar up the mess I would feel sorry for, even the family I might feel sorry for.......the daft gits walking on the line I dont!
Don't forget the station staff, my girlfriend works at Cov station & often sees the remains on the front of trains.
If James hadn't phoned & one of them got mowed down the delays could have been far worse...
I remember reading about a loco being serviced and the workers finding a hand on top of a traction motor, (think it was a Deltic)
-
It won't be a HO Force if it's on the railways...
No it is OO here or EM for a bit more accuracy and P4 for the rivit counters, HO for Europe ;D
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
Don't give a sod for the trespassers, it is the poor driver I pity and yes drivers have won compensation from suicide estates.
And you are likely to be gathered up in a wheel barrow
The bits of woman I saw went in want looked like a bin liner (could have been a small body bag I guess. And that was just a modest speed collision...
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
Don't give a sod for the trespassers, it is the poor driver I pity and yes drivers have won compensation from suicide estates.
And you are likely to be gathered up in a wheel barrow
The bits of woman I saw went in want looked like a bin liner (could have been a small body bag I guess. And that was just a modest speed collision...
I remember chatting to some staff and they were telling me about the wheelbarrows used on the bank out of Plymouth towards Exeter
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
Don't give a sod for the trespassers, it is the poor driver I pity and yes drivers have won compensation from suicide estates.
And you are likely to be gathered up in a wheel barrow
The bits of woman I saw went in want looked like a bin liner (could have been a small body bag I guess. And that was just a modest speed collision...
I remember chatting to some staff and they were telling me about the wheelbarrows used on the bank out of Plymouth towards Exeter
I am going back nearly 20yrs....
-
i wouldn't. the only way those morons on the track will stop is if one of Branston's Intercity rearranges their bones.
transport police can do eff all, as kids will be long gone, so waste of everyone's time imho....
Don't give a sod for the trespassers, it is the poor driver I pity and yes drivers have won compensation from suicide estates.
And you are likely to be gathered up in a wheel barrow
The bits of woman I saw went in want looked like a bin liner (could have been a small body bag I guess. And that was just a modest speed collision...
I remember chatting to some staff and they were telling me about the wheelbarrows used on the bank out of Plymouth towards Exeter
I am going back nearly 20yrs....
25-26 years for me!
-
I remember my dad being brought home by the transport police because he had run over a lad of approx 18 to 20 yrs of age all the gaffers ever did was interview me dad to see if he was doing his job correctly i.e. within speed limits set for the area of track and that was it till the coroners enquiry...He found out that this lad had been bullied at work for sainsburys where he was trainee manager he had been told by the bullies that he was going to be fired..well he took it real bad enough to want to go out and commit suicide by calmley walking out in front the old mans DMU and placing his head onto the railway track and just before my dad hit him he turns his head and smiles :o :o there was nothing my dad could do...but he did go back with the guard at the time all they found was the mangled remains of a body next to the track...Worst part of the story the lad was not gonna fired!! he was gonna be fast tracked to store manager...the people who wound him up enough to get him to do this had to live with that for the rest of their lives...my dad talked of it once and once only after the coroners inquest my dads hair was jet black before the accident he went grey a week after the accident he stayed a mainline driver for the next 20 years till he retired after suffering an heart attack 2 hrs before he was due to goto work after that he was on the shunting at oxley sheds till he took early retirment/redundacy....I suspect he has had nightmares about that kid since.... You did the right thing james...
-
Having been a teenager (i know it was a very long time ago) who did stupid life threatening stuff,and having also been the father of 2 teenagers,one of whom in particular seemed absolutely determined to find out if the path of excess really does lead to the road to wisdom, I would,nt wish to see these stupid kids (and that,s what they are) get shredded by a train. i would like them to have the bejaysus scared out of them,so that the lesson is learnt without their families having to answer that knock on the door.
just my thoughts on the subject. NOT wishing to provoke an argument. :y