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Title: EV battery production
Post by: STEMO on 21 February 2023, 07:29:42
I tagged this on to the end of another discussion, but then thought it might be worthy of it's own thread

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/workers-are-dying-in-the-ev-industrys-tainted-city
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: Rangie on 21 February 2023, 08:54:08
What can you say ? I think most of us knew that all along that there would be consequences switching to EV methods of transport we're all going to die anyway but at least the idiots who think they can save the world can make a few quid, it's very important to them to be the richest person in the cemetery.
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: STEMO on 21 February 2023, 09:38:27
What can you say ? I think most of us knew that all along that there would be consequences switching to EV methods of transport we're all going to die anyway but at least the idiots who think they can save the world can make a few quid, it's very important to them to be the richest person in the cemetery.
I know, Mick, but no mention of stories like this on our left wing to channels. The hypocrisy is sick making. I was reading a story this morning about ground and air source heating pumps. They are totally unfeasible for at least 80% of the country, but it won't stop the government and, as you say, the money men, from trying to foist them on the general population. Look at the space needed for a ground source heat pump. Fûckin laughable.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-11758663/UKs-cheapest-heat-pumps-sale-ditch-boiler.html
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: STEMO on 21 February 2023, 09:39:58
Imagine everyone having one of those things you see on the walls and roofs of supermarkets going all day outside their house. The noise alone would drive you mad.
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 February 2023, 09:51:32
What can you say ? I think most of us knew that all along that there would be consequences switching to EV methods of transport we're all going to die anyway but at least the idiots who think they can save the world can make a few quid, it's very important to them to be the richest person in the cemetery.
I know, Mick, but no mention of stories like this on our left wing to channels. The hypocrisy is sick making. I was reading a story this morning about ground and air source heating pumps. They are totally unfeasible for at least 80% of the country, but it won't stop the government and, as you say, the money men, from trying to foist them on the general population. Look at the space needed for a ground source heat pump. Fûckin laughable.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-11758663/UKs-cheapest-heat-pumps-sale-ditch-boiler.html

Oh the space shown there is undersize......:

https://www.isoenergy.co.uk/latest-news/renewable-energy-news-from-isoenergy/how-much-land-do-you-need-for-a-ground-source-heat-pump
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: ronnyd on 21 February 2023, 09:52:06
Get all those heat pump and aircon fans going at once and the planet could be blown off it's orbit.  :D Then we would be in total shit.  ;D
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: Rangie on 21 February 2023, 09:54:14
I think you & I are on the same hymn sheet Steve, the world seems to have gone completely mad & those in power appear to be mad enough to go along with it, God alone knows what's in store for our grandkids.
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: STEMO on 21 February 2023, 10:03:16
What can you say ? I think most of us knew that all along that there would be consequences switching to EV methods of transport we're all going to die anyway but at least the idiots who think they can save the world can make a few quid, it's very important to them to be the richest person in the cemetery.
I know, Mick, but no mention of stories like this on our left wing to channels. The hypocrisy is sick making. I was reading a story this morning about ground and air source heating pumps. They are totally unfeasible for at least 80% of the country, but it won't stop the government and, as you say, the money men, from trying to foist them on the general population. Look at the space needed for a ground source heat pump. Fûckin laughable.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-11758663/UKs-cheapest-heat-pumps-sale-ditch-boiler.html

Oh the space shown there is undersize......:

https://www.isoenergy.co.uk/latest-news/renewable-energy-news-from-isoenergy/how-much-land-do-you-need-for-a-ground-source-heat-pump
Hmmm......a five a side pitch would suffice for my property  ;D
And don't forget the hot water cylinder and the half wall sized radiators  ;D
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: STEMO on 21 February 2023, 10:12:15
Plus....the EPC certificate for our house recommends about £40,000 worth of work to insulate it. I reckon with that work plus the cost of the heat pump and changes to the plumbing, it would take me a thousand years to get my money back on energy savings. No brainer, where do I sign?
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 February 2023, 11:37:08
Then there are scientists who say we are entering a Grand Solar Minimum which will mean global cooling rather than global warming or global heating or whatever the latest hysterical term is.  ::)

https://electroverse.co/



Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: Rangie on 21 February 2023, 12:00:42
It's all happened before so we're led to believe Ice age etc etc , mankind survived through all that, problem is now we're all too soft & there are those amongst us who believe all the ridiculous nonsense that is fed to us now , at the end it's all about cash & how to take it from us.
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: STEMO on 21 February 2023, 13:21:57
Then there are scientists who say we are entering a Grand Solar Minimum which will mean global cooling rather than global warming or global heating or whatever the latest hysterical term is.  ::)

https://electroverse.co/
I think the climate activists realised this a while back, so they changed it from global warming to climate change, a catch-all phrase that can include pretty much anything.
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: TheBoy on 21 February 2023, 14:37:14
Once again, my solution to everything solves the whole climate thing

Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: Rangie on 21 February 2023, 16:18:14
Once again, my solution to everything solves the whole climate thing
.


Just give me a list of names, and a guarantee of no prosecution.
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 February 2023, 18:17:24
As long as the smug leftists can sleep all warm and fuzzy, no one gives a shit about how stuff happens unless it directly affects them.

Not saying that's right, but it's how it is.
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: Andy B on 01 March 2023, 08:51:36
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-environmental-impact-of-lithium-batteries/

another article on how 'green' EVs are
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 01 March 2023, 09:13:18
But they don't produce any emissions... ;D and at least fossil fuels get recycled into plants.

I can't believe that China has been able to take over the bulk of the world's resources, especially in places like Australia  :o

But it does just show that people couldn't give a monkeys where and how stuff happens, as long as it isn't near them.
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: YZ250 on 01 March 2023, 09:28:55
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-environmental-impact-of-lithium-batteries/

another article on how 'green' EVs are

We’ll soon be able to hold a protest and shout “HOW DARE YOU POLLUTE OUR RIVERS, HOW DARE YOU RUIN LIFE FOR MY GENERATION “ at that Bella Emberg/Greta Thunberg or whatever her name is.  ::)
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: STEMO on 01 March 2023, 10:42:58
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-environmental-impact-of-lithium-batteries/

another article on how 'green' EVs are

We’ll soon be able to hold a protest and shout “HOW DARE YOU POLLUTE OUR RIVERS, HOW DARE YOU RUIN LIFE FOR MY GENERATION “ at that Bella Emberg/Greta Thunberg or whatever her name is.  ::)
Bella Emberg...now there's a blast from the past  ;D
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: countrywoman on 01 March 2023, 13:38:00
Blunder Woman!!
Title: Re: EV battery production
Post by: ronnyd on 01 March 2023, 22:42:10
Blunder Woman!!
Russ Abbott has a lot to answer for.  :)