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Title: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: STEMO on 05 March 2023, 09:01:48
.....over immigration. A conservative minister on Sophie Ridge this morning saying that anyone who enters the country illegally with be refused asylum. After that interview a Labour shadow cabinet member, Jonathan Ashworth, was asked if he agreed with policy. He squirmed and said he hadn't seen the draft legislation.
It's Brexit all over again. Labour can't agree with the policy, it would mean a total U turn. But they know, come the general election early next year, voters might just turn out in their droves to support such a policy.
HA!
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 05 March 2023, 10:23:50
They might...............if the Tories have actually implemented it and its working.
This is highly unlikely imo, because they will all go to the ECHR who will over rule the UK Govt.
The only way to take back full control is to leave the jurisdiction of the ECHR, but they dont have the balls to do it.
The ECHR was a great idea, supported by Churchill, after WW2, set up to protect real refugees and prevent the kind of inhumane treatment people suffered during the war.
Like everything else its original purpose has been perverted to a ludicrous degree, and it is now just another tool for the " liberal" left to impose their agenda on everyone, everywhere.
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 March 2023, 13:23:13
.....over immigration. A conservative minister on Sophie Ridge this morning saying that anyone who enters the country illegally with be refused asylum. After that interview a Labour shadow cabinet member, Jonathan Ashworth, was asked if he agreed with policy. He squirmed and said he hadn't seen the draft legislation.
It's Brexit all over again. Labour can't agree with the policy, it would mean a total U turn. But they know, come the general election early next year, voters might just turn out in their droves to support such a policy.
HA!

Sounds good in isolation but......

Deciding if they are genuine or not will take months, possibly years.

Even if they are told to leave they will either ignore it, or go off grid.

The reality is that once they are here they will stay regardless of how genuine they are.

They need to be stopped from reaching our shores in the first instance but that will never happen.

 
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 05 March 2023, 14:14:36
.....over immigration. A conservative minister on Sophie Ridge this morning saying that anyone who enters the country illegally with be refused asylum. After that interview a Labour shadow cabinet member, Jonathan Ashworth, was asked if he agreed with policy. He squirmed and said he hadn't seen the draft legislation.
It's Brexit all over again. Labour can't agree with the policy, it would mean a total U turn. But they know, come the general election early next year, voters might just turn out in their droves to support such a policy.
HA!

Sounds good in isolation but......

Deciding if they are genuine or not will take months, possibly years.

Even if they are told to leave they will either ignore it, or go off grid.

The reality is that once they are here they will stay regardless of how genuine they are.

They need to be stopped from reaching our shores in the first instance but that will never happen.
Discouragement would be a better policy.
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Raeturbo on 05 March 2023, 14:21:44
I said it it years ago build a Trump style wall around the entire Island🥁🥁🧱🚷🚷
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 March 2023, 14:25:29
There is a backlog of over 160,000 who need to be processed. Suella wants to see this number go down.

There will be a strong temptation by the 'powers that be' to wave people through in order to make the numbers more appealing to the public.

Less checks are likely, not more.
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: dave the builder on 05 March 2023, 18:40:33
I said it it years ago build a Trump style wall around the entire Island🥁🥁🧱🚷🚷
We've already got a deep moat ,filled with cold salt water ,it's been there a while  :P
For some reason ,no one is manning the "pill boxes" and machine gun nests to fire on anyone crossing the "moat"  :(
an oversight perhaps  ??? or "red tape"  :-\
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Rangie on 05 March 2023, 18:47:37
There is a backlog of over 160,000 who need to be processed. Suella wants to see this number go down.

There will be a strong temptation by the 'powers that be' to wave people through in order to make the numbers more appealing to the public.

Less checks are likely, not more.


Hundreds of new hand car washes opening near all of us soon..🚙🚙🚙
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 March 2023, 19:03:08
I said it it years ago build a Trump style wall around the entire Island🥁🥁🧱🚷🚷
We've already got a deep moat ,filled with cold salt water ,it's been there a while  :P
For some reason ,no one is manning the "pill boxes" and machine gun nests to fire on anyone crossing the "moat"  :(
an oversight perhaps  ??? or "red tape"  :-\

Yes our ancestors would have either killed these invaders without a second thought, or put them into slavery.  :)

Perhaps they should be put to work in the fields to earn their keep?  ???

It would reduce the 'pull factor' as well, and the lefties would go into meltdown. So win win!  :y
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 05 March 2023, 21:20:15
The lefties run the show though, no matter who is in Number 10.  :(
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Raeturbo on 05 March 2023, 22:02:18
Mmm how come there are no lefties on this forum?….. makes you think 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Varche on 05 March 2023, 23:47:16
Mmm how come there are no lefties on this forum?….. makes you think 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

No need for them to say anything, they know they are in charge.
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: mattbearman on 06 March 2023, 08:09:47
Mmm how come there are no lefties on this forum?….. makes you think 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

There's at least one
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 March 2023, 08:59:10
Mmm how come there are no lefties on this forum?….. makes you think 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

There's at least one
You're definitely a minority then ;D
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: mattbearman on 06 March 2023, 09:19:41
Mmm how come there are no lefties on this forum?….. makes you think 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

There's at least one
You're definitely a minority then ;D

Seems that way  :D I honestly think its a good thing though, it’s so easy to stuck in an echo chamber on the internet, it’s great to hear some other views and be challenged
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: ronnyd on 06 March 2023, 10:34:57
Mmm how come there are no lefties on this forum?….. makes you think 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

There's at least one
You're definitely a minority then ;D

Seems that way  :D I honestly think its a good thing though, it’s so easy to stuck in an echo chamber on the internet, it’s great to hear some other views and be challenged
Very, very true, even if you are totally wrong.  ;D
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 March 2023, 11:12:07
Mmm how come there are no lefties on this forum?….. makes you think 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

There's at least one
You're definitely a minority then ;D

Seems that way  :D I honestly think its a good thing though, it’s so easy to stuck in an echo chamber on the internet, it’s great to hear some other views and be challenged
Very, very true, even if you are totally wrong.  ;D
Spoken like a true believer ;D
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Raeturbo on 06 March 2023, 11:26:20
Or as Evelyn Beatrice Hall once wrote,  and often wrongly attributed to Voltaire….

I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: mattbearman on 06 March 2023, 17:04:57
Or as Evelyn Beatrice Hall once wrote,  and often wrongly attributed to Voltaire….

I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It

Damn right. Although maybe not to the death, not while I’ve still got unfinished project cars anyway  :D
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 March 2023, 17:17:52
Mmm how come there are no lefties on this forum?….. makes you think 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

There's at least one

Most people, even most on the left, are generally socially conservative.
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 March 2023, 13:48:26
While the media have focused on Gary Lineker over the weekend the Government have quietly brokered a deal for HSBC to buy the UK arm of Silicone Valley Bank  which means about 3000 UK businesses won't face the disruption of their bank going under.  :y

Meanwhile Rishi is in San Diego to sign the AUKUS submarine deal with Australia and America.  If reports are correct, the Aussies will build UK designed subs in Adelaide and this can only be good for UK PLC.  :y
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2023, 14:30:13
I'll pop in and say 'Hi' when I get there next weekend  ;)
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 March 2023, 14:33:32
I'll pop in and say 'Hi' when I get there next weekend  ;)

San Diego or Adelaide?  :)
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2023, 14:54:09
I'll pop in and say 'Hi' when I get there next weekend  ;)

San Diego or Adelaide?  :)
San Diego  ;) Although I will probably be busy recovering from a tour of the USA Midway with a couple of wobblepops and some ribs at the Kansas Barbecue Shack... :-\
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: ronnyd on 13 March 2023, 15:04:05
While the media have focused on Gary Lineker over the weekend the Government have quietly brokered a deal for HSBC to buy the UK arm of Silicone Valley [/highlight]Bank which means about 3000 UK businesses won't face the disruption of their bank going under.  :y

For the princely sum of £1 i believe.
Title: Re: The conservatives are playing a blinder......
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2023, 15:08:30
While the media have focused on Gary Lineker over the weekend the Government have quietly brokered a deal for HSBC to buy the UK arm of Silicone Valley [/highlight]Bank which means about 3000 UK businesses won't face the disruption of their bank going under.  :y

For the princely sum of £1 i believe.
Borrowed from the government no doubt :D