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Title: Cooked it
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 27 June 2023, 20:54:09
My lovely 2.6 which passed her MOT literally three or four days ago.

Savagely cooked to death on the motorway.

I had a Seat Leon on my arse, so gave it some beans to create some distance before moving back in.

Looked in rear view mirror - loads and loads of white looking smoke.

Was too dangerous to stop (no hard shoulder at that point) so carefully kept going. Smoke seemed to clear. No rise in temp gauge or coolant level warnings.

Three miles before the next junction (services), a load of really nasty ratting, power loss, and dead as a dodo.

Fair to say it’s cooked.

I will be robbing the parts I want to make my 3.2 good, and then breaking it. Real shame but, the paint is poor, and now with a goosed engine, she is toast :(

RIP

Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 27 June 2023, 20:57:47
(https://i.ibb.co/vwjZmg5/D746495-D-D64-D-46-D4-AB5-C-ECE1-F773-F302.jpg)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Raeturbo on 27 June 2023, 21:10:39
'dangle berries', hard luck mate🙁
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: VXL V6 on 27 June 2023, 21:14:24
Ooops, shame after you've done so much work on it.
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 27 June 2023, 21:21:22
Ah gutted for you James.  :(
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Jimbob on 28 June 2023, 05:40:39
Unlucky, at least youve another waiting in the wings.
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: STEMO on 28 June 2023, 06:47:49
So sorry to hear this, James, I know how attached you can become to a car.
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 June 2023, 10:12:32
So sorry to hear this, James, I know how attached you can become to a car.

Yes, James. Pretty much what the scouser says. :-\
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Stu.C on 28 June 2023, 10:59:22
Oh bugger  :-X


I've a very familiar 2.6 with a fresh 12 months MOT sat here doing nothing, if you wanted to rekindle an old flame...
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: ronnyd on 28 June 2023, 14:14:06
Ooops, shame after you've done so much work on it.
Wot he said.  :D What a shame, still, you'll get more therapy working on the other one.  :y
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: TheBoy on 28 June 2023, 18:41:26
Taking the positives, the 2.6 is a dog of an engine, and you're replacing with a 3.2 - which still ain't as good at the 3.0, but still loads better than the 2.6 ;D

What a bummer, though.
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 June 2023, 19:22:17
(https://i.ibb.co/vwjZmg5/D746495-D-D64-D-46-D4-AB5-C-ECE1-F773-F302.jpg)

Still a fine looking motor though!  :y

Obviously better in Nocturno Blue tho...  :)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 28 June 2023, 19:42:31
A young Halfords employee who was salivating over mine today reckons that mine (Rubens red) is the best colout they came in .  :P
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: YZ250 on 28 June 2023, 20:55:53
Taking the positives, the 2.6 is a dog of an engine, and you're replacing with a 3.2 - which still ain't as good at the 3.0, but still loads better than the 2.6 ;D
……..

With a bit of soul searching you can be quite a sympathetic chap can’t you.  ;D
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 June 2023, 22:52:34
A young Halfords employee who was salivating over mine today reckons that mine (Rubens red) is the best colout they came in .  :P

Hope he didn't dribble on the paintwork!  :o

If he did, you'll have to go round Uncle STEMO's..... He'll give it a rub for you!  :)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: TheBoy on 29 June 2023, 09:49:57
Taking the positives, the 2.6 is a dog of an engine, and you're replacing with a 3.2 - which still ain't as good at the 3.0, but still loads better than the 2.6 ;D
……..

With a bit of soul searching you can be quite a sympathetic chap can’t you.  ;D
Working for a large corporate, I have much training on empathy….
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 June 2023, 10:53:08
A young Halfords employee who was salivating over mine today reckons that mine (Rubens red) is the best colout they came in .  :P

That young lad is talking the truth.  I still love mine! :D :D ;)

To think, that lad at Halfords may not have been born when our last Omega's were built! :o :o :o

Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 June 2023, 10:54:39
(https://i.ibb.co/vwjZmg5/D746495-D-D64-D-46-D4-AB5-C-ECE1-F773-F302.jpg)

Another one gone James. :'( :'(  :'(  Bad luck! :( :(

Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 June 2023, 11:13:26
(https://i.ibb.co/vwjZmg5/D746495-D-D64-D-46-D4-AB5-C-ECE1-F773-F302.jpg)

Still a fine looking motor though!  :y

Obviously better in Nocturno Blue tho...  :)

But star silver is far more are therefore far more desirable. :)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 June 2023, 11:16:03
A young Halfords employee who was salivating over mine today reckons that mine (Rubens red) is the best colout they came in .  :P

Same colour as the 3.2 Elite Lizzie Zoom owns.

Perhaps you two could get together and become an item. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 June 2023, 11:33:47
Taking the positives, the 2.6 is a dog of an engine, and you're replacing with a 3.2 - which still ain't as good at the 3.0, but still loads better than the 2.6 ;D
……..

With a bit of soul searching you can be quite a sympathetic chap can’t you.  ;D
Working for a large corporate, I have much training on empathy….

TB and empathy.....you'll rarely find the two in the same sentence. ;D
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 June 2023, 12:28:50
(https://i.ibb.co/vwjZmg5/D746495-D-D64-D-46-D4-AB5-C-ECE1-F773-F302.jpg)

Still a fine looking motor though!  :y

Obviously better in Nocturno Blue tho...  :)

But star silver is far more are therefore far more desirable. :)

In English please?  ;D
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 June 2023, 12:39:07
Rare and....
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 June 2023, 13:48:24
Rare and....

Ah yes, like Mexican BMW's finished in Bell End Purple?  :)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 June 2023, 15:17:11
A young Halfords employee who was salivating over mine today reckons that mine (Rubens red) is the best colout they came in .  :P

Same colour as the 3.2 Elite Lizzie Zoom owns.

Perhaps you two could get together and become an item. ::) ::) ::)

There you go!  An old image now, but except for the tax disc, still looks as good 8) 8) ;D ;D ;):

(https://i.postimg.cc/KzdtP0qb/DSC00009.jpg)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Andy B on 29 June 2023, 19:44:07
The Astra G fronted Omegas never grew on me ...... I always liked the curved swage line across the bonnet of the preface lift cars  ;)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: omega2018 on 30 June 2023, 09:49:02
So what do you think went wrong?  98K miles is low for a V6.  Obviously wasn't the belt but also doesn't sound like just one piston/valve failing.

You could pick up a nice V6 manual, the dealer cut the price again this week - now half what he was aking and almost reasonable: https://www.ebay.co.uk/rvh/255972485536?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m148105.l48144 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/rvh/255972485536?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m148105.l48144)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Varche on 30 June 2023, 11:17:39
I was thinking a “ spares or repair” type vehicle. Go back a few years and you could pick one up for £200. Best. I could find was. 3.0 litre for £560. Then you have all the hassle of trailer collection and disposal and the actual swap over.

The secondhand price of runners seems to be £1500 upwards. No doubt bouyed by the general rise in price of S/H cars
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 30 June 2023, 17:58:13
So what do you think went wrong?  98K miles is low for a V6.  Obviously wasn't the belt but also doesn't sound like just one piston/valve failing.

You could pick up a nice V6 manual, the dealer cut the price again this week - now half what he was aking and almost reasonable: https://www.ebay.co.uk/rvh/255972485536?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m148105.l48144 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/rvh/255972485536?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m148105.l48144)

It emptied a load of coolant. For some reason the level warning nor the gauge told me anything was wrong, which meant I continued smoking a load of hot hatches half of its age, until I cooked it like a chicken.

Very little warning anything was amiss until I saw the smoke in the rear view mirror. By the time I was somewhere I could safely stop, it was absolute toast.

I would usually get the heads off, but just before it died, it had a really nasty rattle under light load… maybe caused by the oil getting so hot? Regardless, I suspect bottom end damage which is what’s making me think it’s not a viable fix ….
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 30 June 2023, 17:59:37
You’d never get £1500 for this one with the paintwork even when mechanically sound.

Plus I can rob parts needed to get the 3.2 Elite project on the road, saving  at least £400

Plus I just made £300 by weighing in the cats off it and selling a couple of interior bits. I reckon done right I will see upwards of £600 just from breaking it …..

Hence my logic of using two cars to make a goodun out of the Elite. Which is lush. With a stainless exhaust  8)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Rangie on 30 June 2023, 21:03:11
A young Halfords employee who was salivating over mine today reckons that mine (Rubens red) is the best colout they came in .  :P

Same colour as the 3.2 Elite Lizzie Zoom owns.

Perhaps you two could get together and become an item. ::) ::) ::)

There you go!  An old image now, but except for the tax disc, still looks as good 8) 8) ;D ;D ;):

(https://i.postimg.cc/KzdtP0qb/DSC00009.jpg)


Lovely car Lizzie & without a doubt the best colour for the Omega.
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: STEMO on 30 June 2023, 21:16:45
Yes. Red first, closely followed by blue  :y
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: omega2018 on 01 July 2023, 02:02:44
It emptied a load of coolant. For some reason the level warning nor the gauge told me anything was wrong, which meant I continued smoking a load of hot hatches half of its age, until I cooked it like a chicken.

Very little warning anything was amiss until I saw the smoke in the rear view mirror. By the time I was somewhere I could safely stop, it was absolute toast.

I would usually get the heads off, but just before it died, it had a really nasty rattle under light load… maybe caused by the oil getting so hot? Regardless, I suspect bottom end damage which is what’s making me think it’s not a viable fix ….

Very hard to get a working header tank sensor as I recall.  I thought it was the reed switch failing on mine but on checking 3 tanks it is usually the magnet that falls off the float.  So second hand tanks work when you turn them upside down but not when installed.  Fiddly to pull off the float, glue the magnet back on and refit but worth it to have a working sensor.
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Rangie on 01 July 2023, 09:35:07
Yes. Red first, closely followed by blue  :y
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Absolutely spot on Steve 👍
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: BazaJT on 01 July 2023, 09:56:10
According to DVLA my car is blue,I'd call it grey the official GM name according to the colour code is Graphite II mica.Must have been a very popular colour as I've never seen another  :D
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: YZ250 on 01 July 2023, 11:41:51
According to DVLA my car is blue,I'd call it grey the official GM name according to the colour code is Graphite II mica.Must have been a very popular colour as I've never seen another  :D

My first Omega was the opposite, it looked blue, everyone thought it was blue, but it was actually listed as Magic Grey.  :y
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: YZ250 on 01 July 2023, 11:55:27
……..
Very hard to get a working header tank sensor as I recall.  I thought it was the reed switch failing on mine but on checking 3 tanks it is usually the magnet that falls off the float.  So second hand tanks work when you turn them upside down but not when installed.  Fiddly to pull off the float, glue the magnet back on and refit but worth it to have a working sensor.

The original expansion tank on my 3.2 lasted around sixteen years in my ownership but in the last year of ownership I fitted two brand new tanks, purchased from a main dealer, and the float fell off both of them. Quite ironic, as I only purchased a new tank to make the engine bay look better.  ::)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 July 2023, 23:35:39
Snap.  :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XYS4YnYJ/IMG_0586.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0bfLtRmR)

(https://i.postimg.cc/cCPZYS7F/IMG_0591.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jn6G0BFf)

Front garden looks pretty nice in those pics too.  I should really give the gardener a pay rise. :D
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 July 2023, 23:58:44
My other source of motoring enjoyment. In the most rare of colours .  ::)
I wanted a dark metallic blue one, but at the price I couldnt be fussy.
Total purchase price for both cars was £2460.  :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/YCC7TTWv/IMG_0914.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBzLb1wC)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Rangie on 02 July 2023, 09:03:11
My other source of motoring enjoyment. In the most rare of colours .  ::)
I wanted a dark metallic blue one, but at the price I couldnt be fussy.
Total purchase price for both cars was £2460.  :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/YCC7TTWv/IMG_0914.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBzLb1wC)
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That's the kind of motoring I like, a couple of grand for a pair of great looking vehicles 👍
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Raeturbo on 02 July 2023, 15:52:39
Yeah, me too,  never buy new😁
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: ronnyd on 02 July 2023, 18:03:10
My other source of motoring enjoyment. In the most rare of colours .  ::)
I wanted a dark metallic blue one, but at the price I couldnt be fussy.
Total purchase price for both cars was £2460.  :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/YCC7TTWv/IMG_0914.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBzLb1wC)
.

That's the kind of motoring I like, a couple of grand for a pair of great looking vehicles 👍
Snap.  :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XYS4YnYJ/IMG_0586.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0bfLtRmR)

(https://i.postimg.cc/cCPZYS7F/IMG_0591.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jn6G0BFf)

Front garden looks pretty nice in those pics too.  I should really give the gardener a pay rise. :D
Careful, you'll make the Lincolnshire mega landowner extremely jealous.  ;)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 02 July 2023, 18:19:57
A young Halfords employee who was salivating over mine today reckons that mine (Rubens red) is the best colout they came in .  :P

Same colour as the 3.2 Elite Lizzie Zoom owns.

Perhaps you two could get together and become an item. ::) ::) ::)

There you go!  An old image now, but except for the tax disc, still looks as good 8) 8) ;D ;D ;):

(https://i.postimg.cc/KzdtP0qb/DSC00009.jpg)


Lovely car Lizzie & without a doubt the best colour for the Omega.

Thanks Rangie.

Since that picture was taken I had the unfortunate opportunity to have the front end “restored” with   a whole re spray back to the doors, due to a low speed shunt.  Just need the whole back end updated now, but without an accident involved!! ::) ::) :P :D ;)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 02 July 2023, 18:23:45
Snap.  :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XYS4YnYJ/IMG_0586.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0bfLtRmR)

(https://i.postimg.cc/cCPZYS7F/IMG_0591.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jn6G0BFf)

Front garden looks pretty nice in those pics too.  I should really give the gardener a pay rise. :D

Yep another lovely example! :-* 8) ;)

Was it yours that was alongside mine outsides Sereks garage back in 2018?
Still got the picture of both together. :)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 02 July 2023, 18:38:36
Yep. I do still have the picture!
What a lovely couple! ;D ;D :-*

(https://i.postimg.cc/N0hddnss/WP-20181004-08-15-16-Pro-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 02 July 2023, 19:56:32
Wasnt me. Serek has been to my place, but I have never been to his.   ;)
Looking at the wheels on the one beside yours its a CD spec car.
Mine had around 185000 on the clock when those pics were taken. Its nearly on 199,000 now.
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 02 July 2023, 20:22:00
Wasnt me. Serek has been to my place, but I have never been to his.   ;)
Looking at the wheels on the one beside yours its a CD spec car.
Mine had around 185000 on the clock when those pics were taken. Its nearly on 199,000 now.

Somebody else has got a nice motor then ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: STEMO on 02 July 2023, 21:30:08
It was the different reg number that gave it away, Albs  ;D
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: TheBoy on 03 July 2023, 09:55:54
I've seen Mig's in the flesh, albeit a few years ago now, and a pretty tidy example it is too :y

I think I've seen LZ's as well, but memory is fuzzy, as I was nursing a proper bad hangover that day.  TB's top tip learnt on that day is not attempt cam cover gaskets or flashing 3.0l EPROMS when the eyes won't focus ;D
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 July 2023, 17:10:00
I think that was about 7 years ago !  :o
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 July 2023, 20:01:33
Guffers cambelt do was elevenish years ago  :o
Title: Re: Cooked it
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 July 2023, 21:56:33
Guffers cambelt do was elevenish years ago  :o

Yep, they're just in the process of bulldozing the venue and turning it into a housing estate.