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Title: Another Change in the Law - Single Use Plastics
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 July 2023, 10:39:23
I only found out about it last night.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/single-use-plastics-ban-plates-bowls-trays-containers-cutlery-and-balloon-sticks
Title: Re: Another Change in the Law - Single Use Plastics
Post by: Andy H on 16 July 2023, 10:52:58
About time too.

When I was a lad greengrocers used paper bags.

Not sure about meat, I think it was wrapped in grease-proof paper?

Frozen food was a novelty.

Couldn't believe it when plastic carrier bags replaced the paper ones.

Can't say I miss the tartan shopping trolleys that old ladies used to drag along behind  them though  ::)
Title: Re: Another Change in the Law - Single Use Plastics
Post by: STEMO on 16 July 2023, 10:58:29
This was in the news a good while ago.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Law - Single Use Plastics
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 July 2023, 11:07:58
I saw a complaint about McD and them going from the plastic straws to the paper/card type and it got soggy and collasped.  it was then pointed out that it was good to have changed the plastic straw but why not the plastic top?

Chippys used to hand out wooden forks
Ice cream had the wooden spatula spoon things.
Even Q tips.cotton buds went to plastic and then pushed back to card.

Surprising the ammount of changes over the years.

2 of the biggest ones being the plastic carrier bags & cling film.


Will be interesting to see how the market changes for bottles and packaging etc.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Law - Single Use Plastics
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 July 2023, 11:09:41
This was in the news a good while ago.

I never watch the news (Sad I know) too much negativity in the world.  I haave enough of that in my own life.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Law - Single Use Plastics
Post by: dave the builder on 16 July 2023, 12:24:22
Looking at the lists of "Exemptions" ,what are they actually banning  :-\
Takeaway ,meat, ready meals all exempt  ::)

other than peas/brans/gravy from a chippy being put in a plastic pot rather than polystyrene (which i doubt will have much impact)

Most alternative "green packing" will still end up in landfill because it's contaminated (food residue etc) and people are too lazy to recycle half the time anyway.

Added to the fact that pretty much everything these days has "recyclable logo" yet only SOME items can go in the bins.

example .....
Who bothers to rip the paper label off a tin can jar or bottle and put it in paper recycling ,then wash the can/bottle/jar of food contamination  :-\  we do  (with waste water at the end of "washing up" )
Title: Re: Another Change in the Law - Single Use Plastics
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 July 2023, 16:33:58
Load of 'dangle berries'.

Our local council takes cans, plastics, paper, glass and card in a single bin. Why does Newcastle need six+ bins ???

You can't possibly suggest that recycling has to be separated and that putting a beenz can in with the milk cartons contaminates all of it to the point of having to be burnt/buried.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Law - Single Use Plastics
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 July 2023, 16:41:33
We have Tins/plastics in one bin
Cardboard and paper in another
 Each of those are monthly

Then fornightly for the non recyclable things.

We also have an option for a fee to have a garden recycle bin.

It all comes with a list of do this, split this cant throw away that etc etc.
Title: Re: Another Change in the Law - Single Use Plastics
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 July 2023, 19:46:29
When I was hanging around in Africa back in the '90's Coca Cola came in glass bottles and you either brought an empty bottle to exchange, drank the Coke there and then or paid a deposit on the bottle.  :y

When I was a kid we saved the Corona pop bottles to make a few pence when we took them back to the shop.  :y

Milk came in glass bottles and the milkman collected the empties and they went back to the dairy to be reused.  :y

It really gets my goat that we now get drinks in single use plastic bottles that although are supposedly recyclable, will more likely go to landfill, get incinerated or just dumped somewhere like a waterway for example where they get washed out to sea.  :-\

A few years ago in Vietnam I rode a step through rev up and go scooter up the coast and one afternoon came across an idyllic bay with a lovely white sandy beach fringed with palm trees and I stopped for a cold beer. Sadly there was a barrage of empty plastic bottles at the high tide mark.  :(
Title: Re: Another Change in the Law - Single Use Plastics
Post by: TheBoy on 17 July 2023, 08:26:45
Milk came in glass bottles and the milkman collected the empties and they went back to the dairy to be reused.  :y
Welcome to Brackley, ours still is glass bottles ;D


Is the problem with (supposedly recyclable) plastics the plastic itself, or that humankind seems incapable of being anything more than bone idle and finding bins....?
Title: Re: Another Change in the Law - Single Use Plastics
Post by: ronnyd on 17 July 2023, 18:18:05
I read that a company in Norfolk that makes biodegradable cartons and utensils is falling foul of the new regulations. Their stuff is also classed as single use.