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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Migalot on 06 September 2023, 19:40:38
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No smart meter? Log burner? Insufficient insulation? Against Net Zero?
Get arrested. Face a 1-year prison sentence or get fined £15000.
I despair of this once great country. It's turning into a Marxist hell-hole. >:( >:( :'(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiBxyYFL48w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiBxyYFL48w)
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Might be something in this. Its not just some conspiracy theorist on Youtube. :-\
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/another-power-grab-by-mps-lois-perry-outraged-by-plans-to-jail-property-owners-who-defy-net-zero-rules/ar-AA1gl4Ud?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8a8ed178aae94cb9bb4de09e7a39f622&ei=10
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There's definitely something in it. It's in the legislation. >:(
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This doesn't really surprise me, the world has gone fûckin mad.
I heard that several self-interested pressure groups, Outrage and Extinction Rebellion to mention just two, are trying to get a law passed to make watching Ricky Gervais illegal.
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A lot would be better off in prison , several meal choices a day,free gym membership,brew your own alcohol ( rice wine) will blow your socks off if that's what you want, drugs plentiful, corrupt female staff if you fancy a BJ , ( or male if that floats your boat) what's the punishment then ?
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A lot would be better off in prison , several meal choices a day,free gym membership,brew your own alcohol ( rice wine) will blow your socks off if that's what you want, drugs plentiful, corrupt female staff if you fancy a BJ , ( or male if that floats your boat) what's the punishment then ?
Ah, so now we know where all your money came from ;D
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Parliament has by and large given it the thumbs up.
It seems crazy to me. :-\
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Due to the fact that much of the Conservative and Unionist party, is no longer Conservative or Unionist.
You struggle to get on the front benches if you arent a Liberal Globalist.
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This doesn't really surprise me, the world has gone fûckin mad.
I heard that several self-interested pressure groups, Outrage and Extinction Rebellion to mention just two, are trying to get a law passed to make watching Ricky Gervais illegal.
https://youtu.be/QXgmkv1PwlI?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/QXgmkv1PwlI?feature=shared)
I quite like Ricky. ;D
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This doesn't really surprise me, the world has gone fûckin mad.
I heard that several self-interested pressure groups, Outrage and Extinction Rebellion to mention just two, are trying to get a law passed to make watching Ricky Gervais illegal.
A surprisingly sensible policy. ;D
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Littlejohn nails it in today's Mail.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-12493679/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-No-heat-pump-thermals-youre-nicked.html
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Superb as usual. He gets right to the heart of issues, with plenty of humour thrown in to keep it an interesting read.
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On this and other issues, Neil Oliver is simply brilliant. If we don't oppose the tyranny, we are doomed. :( :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zZPIRtNaqU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zZPIRtNaqU)
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Unfortunately most of us don’t do anything to help or don’t believe the obvious attack on us ordinary folk🙁
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The beer fridge is an "air source heat pump" ,heats the air behind the fridge and cools the beer ::)
I'm doing my part :P
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My beer gut is a heat sink so I’m doing my part too
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£2300 bill for every household to decommission the gas grid to meet Net Zero.
So what next? Hydrogen instead? Yes, they are really thinking about that. Fancy buying a hydrogen boiler or cooker?
This government needs to go. Now. >:( >:(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojP0Y5MaMNg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojP0Y5MaMNg)
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This one and all the rest of the worthless bastards
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Yep, we have a really awful Government, but the net one is going to be worse. :'(
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I'm glad I'm old. I'm going to spend my last years belching out diesel fumes and relaxing by toasty, gas heated radiators :)
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£2300 bill for every household to decommission the gas grid to meet Net Zero.
So what next? Hydrogen instead? Yes, they are really thinking about that. Fancy buying a hydrogen boiler or cooker?
This government needs to go. Now. >:( >:(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojP0Y5MaMNg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojP0Y5MaMNg)
Yep I agree. Any ideas? ???
Thing is that the British sheeple vote Tory or Labour mostly, and those who aren't died in the wool Tory/Labour will vote for one or the other anyway.... ::)
So the chances of a truly reforming Govt coming in are close to zero, and even if it happened, the Establishment (Deep State/Blob whatever you want to call it) would quickly try to neutralise any serious reforms as we have seen with Brexit and Liz Truss. :-\
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I'm glad I'm old. I'm going to spend my last years belching out diesel fumes and relaxing by toasty, gas heated radiators :)
Me too. :y Rules and stupid ideas made up by people who won't be affected by them in the slightest.
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£2300 bill for every household to decommission the gas grid to meet Net Zero.
So what next? Hydrogen instead? Yes, they are really thinking about that. Fancy buying a hydrogen boiler or cooker?
This government needs to go. Now. >:( >:(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojP0Y5MaMNg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojP0Y5MaMNg)
Yep I agree. Any ideas? ???
Thing is that the British sheeple vote Tory or Labour mostly, and those who aren't died in the wool Tory/Labour will vote for one or the other anyway.... ::)
So the chances of a truly reforming Govt coming in are close to zero, and even if it happened, the Establishment (Deep State/Blob whatever you want to call it) would quickly try to neutralise any serious reforms as we have seen with Brexit and Liz Truss. :-\
And GB news
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£2300 bill for every household to decommission the gas grid to meet Net Zero.
So what next? Hydrogen instead? Yes, they are really thinking about that. Fancy buying a hydrogen boiler or cooker?
This government needs to go. Now. >:( >:(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojP0Y5MaMNg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojP0Y5MaMNg)
A friend of mine had her boiler replaced late 2021 and apparently it is Hyrogen ready
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£2300 bill for every household to decommission the gas grid to meet Net Zero.
So what next? Hydrogen instead? Yes, they are really thinking about that. Fancy buying a hydrogen boiler or cooker?
This government needs to go. Now. >:( >:(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojP0Y5MaMNg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojP0Y5MaMNg)
A friend of mine had her boiler replaced late 2021 and apparently it is Hyrogen ready
By the time the gas infrastructure is upgraded to pipe hydrogen into peoples homes (if it ever is....), your friends boiler will be long dead and buried. :-X
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£2300 bill for every household to decommission the gas grid to meet Net Zero.
So what next? Hydrogen instead? Yes, they are really thinking about that. Fancy buying a hydrogen boiler or cooker?
This government needs to go. Now. >:( >:(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojP0Y5MaMNg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojP0Y5MaMNg)
A friend of mine had her boiler replaced late 2021 and apparently it is Hyrogen ready
A combustion unit will burn most anything that's combustible ::)
A domestic boiler or cooker can burn most anything from ethanol to propane with little more than a change of nozzles.
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I thought I'd look more closely into this hydrogen boiler question:
"A hydrogen-ready boiler is a boiler that can be amended to run on 100% hydrogen with a few small part changes and whilst all the boilers we sell are hydrogen blend ready up to 20%, they currently aren’t ready to run on 100% hydrogen in the future – there is a difference and the full hydrogen gas boiler is still in the prototype stage.
Although hydrogen-ready boilers are being marketed as a more low-carbon, energy-efficient alternative to gas boilers, it can be argued that the actual production of hydrogen adds to global carbon emissions.
These systems may emit less carbon during operation, but the process required to produce hydrogen involves the burning of fossil fuels.
It is predicted that at some point, households with hydrogen-ready boilers will need to get a hydrogen-ready gas meter installed, this will help to calculate running costs."
https://www.boilercentral.com/guides/hydrogen-ready-boiler/ (https://www.boilercentral.com/guides/hydrogen-ready-boiler/)
(Website updated on 6th September 2023)
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Not much different to any other 'energy saving' fad then...
Digging more stuff up to replace stuff that we've already dug up in the name of progress :-X
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Yep exactly the same as the car farce
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If we up are generation of electricity by wind ,tidal, and solar to a level that we have large excesses of electricity (when it's very windy etc ) then that electricity could be used to concentrate hydrogen .
Effectively storing the excess as a battery (hydrogen fuel cells)
this could then be used for heating, transport OR to generate electricity when there's high demand .
that would require investment, forward thinking ,improving infrastructure ,etc ::)
actually... never mind , as you where :D
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https://news.sky.com/story/potentially-misleading-boiler-marketing-over-the-use-of-hydrogen-removed-after-sky-news-investigation-12959298
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Look, it could be worse.
Politicians could be aiming to stop us eating meat and dairy altogether, banning private car ownership, limiting everyone to three clothes purchases every year and take one aircraft flight every three years.
Yes of course it's so mad, no-one would seriously suggest it. ;D
Wait a minute! Here comes Sadiq Kahn, chair of C40 Cities, a global network of city mayors taking urgent climate action. >:( >:(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giiMnNNLQag&t=73 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giiMnNNLQag&t=73)
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^^^ it’s no joke much of this is slowly gathering momentum and we’re all to Fuc)ing stupid to stop it^^^
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https://youtube.com/shorts/Nash4psppqo?feature=shared
Thankfully there seems to be some resistance in my neck of the woods to this piss take 👍
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If you need a new gas boiler you'd better get one quickly! :o
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4k9C8xB/Boiler-Levy.jpg)
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If you need a new gas boiler you'd better get one quickly! :o
May even be worth getting one in stock even if you don't need one right now. :y
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I have ducted warm air central heating, unfortunately the guy who installed my replacement unit, (have used him for over twenty years), has decided to retire due to mental health issues, selfish bastard. ;D. The problem i have now is finding a service engineer in my area, as warm air is totally out of fashion. I love it, warms up quickly so have never used the timer, just switch on and heat is there in a couple of minutes. Also didn't have to have floors taken up and plpes running down walls etc. I asked him about a recommendation for his replacement and he said that he'd give it some thought.
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I have ducted warm air central heating, unfortunately the guy who installed my replacement unit, (have used him for over twenty years), has decided to retire due to mental health issues, selfish bastard. ;D. The problem i have now is finding a service engineer in my area, as warm air is totally out of fashion. I love it, warms up quickly so have never used the timer, just switch on and heat is there in a couple of minutes. Also didn't have to have floors taken up and plpes running down walls etc. I asked him about a recommendation for his replacement and he said that he'd give it some thought.
Gas or electric, Ron?
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If you need a new gas boiler you'd better get one quickly! :o
May even be worth getting one in stock even if you don't need one right now. :y
Will be having that conversation with the plumber when he comes to service the boiler tomorrow...
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I have ducted warm air central heating, unfortunately the guy who installed my replacement unit, (have used him for over twenty years), has decided to retire due to mental health issues, selfish bastard. ;D. The problem i have now is finding a service engineer in my area, as warm air is totally out of fashion. I love it, warms up quickly so have never used the timer, just switch on and heat is there in a couple of minutes. Also didn't have to have floors taken up and plpes running down walls etc. I asked him about a recommendation for his replacement and he said that he'd give it some thought.
Gas or electric, Ron?
Gas Steve.
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I have ducted warm air central heating, unfortunately the guy who installed my replacement unit, (have used him for over twenty years), has decided to retire due to mental health issues, selfish bastard. ;D. The problem i have now is finding a service engineer in my area, as warm air is totally out of fashion. I love it, warms up quickly so have never used the timer, just switch on and heat is there in a couple of minutes. Also didn't have to have floors taken up and plpes running down walls etc. I asked him about a recommendation for his replacement and he said that he'd give it some thought.
Gas or electric, Ron?
Gas Steve.
Just had a read about it, Ron. I'm sure there must be people who can service the gas burner, it sounds like a good , if somewhat old, system to me.
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If you need a new gas boiler you'd better get one quickly! :o
May even be worth getting one in stock even if you don't need one right now. :y
Will be having that conversation with the plumber when he comes to service the boiler tomorrow...
Thing is, you could spend a grand on a new boiler now, and it sits at the back of the garage for a few years until your boiler goes kaput, but then you find that it's illegal to fit a new boiler and you have to have a heat pump. :-\
Then you've got an expensive box of scrap metal... :-X ::)
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I have ducted warm air central heating, unfortunately the guy who installed my replacement unit, (have used him for over twenty years), has decided to retire due to mental health issues, selfish bastard. ;D. The problem i have now is finding a service engineer in my area, as warm air is totally out of fashion. I love it, warms up quickly so have never used the timer, just switch on and heat is there in a couple of minutes. Also didn't have to have floors taken up and plpes running down walls etc. I asked him about a recommendation for his replacement and he said that he'd give it some thought.
Google it, Sure there are service groups local to you :y
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If you need a new gas boiler you'd better get one quickly! :o
May even be worth getting one in stock even if you don't need one right now. :y
Will be having that conversation with the plumber when he comes to service the boiler tomorrow...
Thing is, you could spend a grand on a new boiler now, and it sits at the back of the garage for a few years until your boiler goes kaput, but then you find that it's illegal to fit a new boiler and you have to have a heat pump. :-\
Then you've got an expensive box of scrap metal... :-X ::)
But would it be a 'new' boiler in a few years time?
That letter suggests production percentages, not what's actually installed... The manufacturers could take a leaf out of the Chinesey Book of Illusion and simply produce millions of the eco gubbins and set up an imaginary company to buy them... said imaginary company could write off the cost as a business expense and recycle the parts, selling them back to the actual company at a loss.
If they need to produce 3,000 units a month, they could make 200 units, keep 100 in stock just in case some eejit actually wants to install one ::) and sell/strip/buy back the other 100 ad infinitum... 30 times a month.
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the guy who installed my replacement unit, (have used him for over twenty years), has decided to retire due to mental health issues, selfish bastard . ;D. ………….
;D ;D
Poor old boy.
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If you need a new gas boiler you'd better get one quickly! :o
May even be worth getting one in stock even if you don't need one right now. :y
Will be having that conversation with the plumber when he comes to service the boiler tomorrow...
Thing is, you could spend a grand on a new boiler now, and it sits at the back of the garage for a few years until your boiler goes kaput, but then you find that it's illegal to fit a new boiler and you have to have a heat pump. :-\
Then you've got an expensive box of scrap metal... :-X ::)
But would it be a 'new' boiler in a few years time?
That letter suggests production percentages, not what's actually installed... The manufacturers could take a leaf out of the Chinesey Book of Illusion and simply produce millions of the eco gubbins and set up an imaginary company to buy them... said imaginary company could write off the cost as a business expense and recycle the parts, selling them back to the actual company at a loss.
If they need to produce 3,000 units a month, they could make 200 units, keep 100 in stock just in case some eejit actually wants to install one ::) and sell/strip/buy back the other 100 ad infinitum... 30 times a month.
Yes. They will ban replacing a gas boiler whether it is fresh from the factory, new/old stock from your garage or a second hand unit. You'll need a very friendly gas fitter who will do a quiet weekend job for cash and hope your neighbours don't grass you up! ::) Oh hold on.... Cash has gone as well... >:D
No. They will be required to sell a certain number of heat pumps every year and if they don't meet the target, they will be fined £5000 per unit under target. ::)
There's a word for this sort of thing. Totalitarianism! :-X
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I had a new gas boiler fitted a few months back and a tiled, insulated roof fitted on my conservatory so I should be able to keep the authorities at bay for a while. :)
I don’t have any smart meters though, so I could still be locked up. ::)
Just a thought, I sold my parents house a couple of months back and that had old Covenants restricting the fixing of anything to the front or rear wall of the property, other than approved extensions and conservatories. It could be argued that an ugly bastard great big heat pump would breach the Land Registry Covenant. :-\
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I have ducted warm air central heating, unfortunately the guy who installed my replacement unit, (have used him for over twenty years), has decided to retire due to mental health issues, selfish bastard. ;D. The problem i have now is finding a service engineer in my area, as warm air is totally out of fashion. I love it, warms up quickly so have never used the timer, just switch on and heat is there in a couple of minutes. Also didn't have to have floors taken up and plpes running down walls etc. I asked him about a recommendation for his replacement and he said that he'd give it some thought.
Gas or electric, Ron?
Gas Steve.
Just had a read about it, Ron. I'm sure there must be people who can service the gas burner, it sounds like a good , if somewhat old, system to me.
The new unit was fitted in 2006 as the old one's heat exchanger went tits up. I believe that the units are still being made. I have found service engineers for warm air units, but they seem to be miles away from Suffolk. Still, early days, will keep looking. :)
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If you need a new gas boiler you'd better get one quickly! :o
May even be worth getting one in stock even if you don't need one right now. :y
Will be having that conversation with the plumber when he comes to service the boiler tomorrow...
Thing is, you could spend a grand on a new boiler now, and it sits at the back of the garage for a few years until your boiler goes kaput, but then you find that it's illegal to fit a new boiler and you have to have a heat pump. :-\
Then you've got an expensive box of scrap metal... :-X ::)
I'm pretty sure you'd find someone to fit a boiler that, for all anyone knows, was fitted years ago. He'd probably have to come late evening, dressed in party gear with his toolbox covered in birthday wrapping paper, just to be on the safe side. Or some curtain twitcher would report you to the gas police.
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If you need a new gas boiler you'd better get one quickly! :o
May even be worth getting one in stock even if you don't need one right now. :y
Will be having that conversation with the plumber when he comes to service the boiler tomorrow...
Thing is, you could spend a grand on a new boiler now, and it sits at the back of the garage for a few years until your boiler goes kaput, but then you find that it's illegal to fit a new boiler and you have to have a heat pump. :-\
Then you've got an expensive box of scrap metal... :-X ::)
I'm pretty sure you'd find someone to fit a boiler that, for all anyone knows, was fitted years ago. He'd probably have to come late evening, dressed in party gear with his toolbox covered in birthday wrapping paper, just to be on the safe side. Or some curtain twitcher would report you to the gas police.
See above. ^
You'll need a very friendly gas fitter who will do a quiet weekend job for cash and hope your neighbours don't grass you up! ::) Oh hold on.... Cash has gone as well... >:D
Do keep up at the back! ;D
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If you need a new gas boiler you'd better get one quickly! :o
May even be worth getting one in stock even if you don't need one right now. :y
Will be having that conversation with the plumber when he comes to service the boiler tomorrow...
Thing is, you could spend a grand on a new boiler now, and it sits at the back of the garage for a few years until your boiler goes kaput, but then you find that it's illegal to fit a new boiler and you have to have a heat pump. :-\
Then you've got an expensive box of scrap metal... :-X ::)
I'm pretty sure you'd find someone to fit a boiler that, for all anyone knows, was fitted years ago. He'd probably have to come late evening, dressed in party gear with his toolbox covered in birthday wrapping paper, just to be on the safe side. Or some curtain twitcher would report you to the gas police.
See above. ^
You'll need a very friendly gas fitter who will do a quiet weekend job for cash and hope your neighbours don't grass you up! ::) Oh hold on.... Cash has gone as well... >:D
Do keep up at the back! ;D
Yes, I noticed that after I posted, but cba to acknowledge it ;D
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If you need a new gas boiler you'd better get one quickly! :o
May even be worth getting one in stock even if you don't need one right now. :y
Will be having that conversation with the plumber when he comes to service the boiler tomorrow...
Thing is, you could spend a grand on a new boiler now, and it sits at the back of the garage for a few years until your boiler goes kaput, but then you find that it's illegal to fit a new boiler and you have to have a heat pump. :-\
Then you've got an expensive box of scrap metal... :-X ::)
I'm pretty sure you'd find someone to fit a boiler that, for all anyone knows, was fitted years ago. He'd probably have to come late evening, dressed in party gear with his toolbox covered in birthday wrapping paper, just to be on the safe side. Or some curtain twitcher would report you to the gas police.
See above. ^
You'll need a very friendly gas fitter who will do a quiet weekend job for cash and hope your neighbours don't grass you up! ::) Oh hold on.... Cash has gone as well... >:D
Do keep up at the back! ;D
Yes, I noticed that after I posted, but cba to acknowledge it ;D
Great minds think alike! :y
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If I was going to break the law by the illegal fitting of a gas boiler, I'm pretty I'd break the law on someone qualified fitting it as well. A quick scan on YouTube and I'd fit the bastid meself.
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Or, of course, you could just pay the premium and crack on.
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Yes I maintain my own baxi backboiler bought it secondhand from Moses🤣 it’s that old I’ve had time to find out 99.9% of how it works, I’ll never change it unless it does something I can’t fix although I can’t imagine what that could be.
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Had a text message from British Gas yesterday saying it was time to upgrade my meters and they're coming next Tuesday between 1 and 5pm to fit smart meters.I think I might be out,admittedly that would only delay the changeover.
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Had a text message from British Gas yesterday saying it was time to upgrade my meters and they're coming next Tuesday between 1 and 5pm to fit smart meters.I think I might be out,admittedly that would only delay the changeover.
Octopus keep telling me that mine are out of their certification period. I just ignore them. If they insist on fitting smart meters, I'll find a way to make them dumb.
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Apparently within the Energy Bill that went through Parliament the other day are measures that allow the authorities to force entry to fit smart meters. :-\
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Had a text message from British Gas yesterday saying it was time to upgrade my meters and they're coming next Tuesday between 1 and 5pm to fit smart meters.I think I might be out,admittedly that would only delay the changeover.
Octopus keep telling me that mine are out of their certification period. I just ignore them. If they insist on fitting smart meters, I'll find a way to make them dumb.
I think they've given up nagging me to have them! ;D For the time being anyway.... :-\ ::)
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Apparently within the Energy Bill that went through Parliament the other day are measures that allow the authorities to force entry to fit smart meters. :-\
This from citizens advice:
Refusing a smart meter
You don’t have to accept a smart meter if you don’t want one. If your supplier tells you that you must have one installed, contact the Citizens Advice consumer helpline.
If you refuse a smart meter, you might find it hard to access all tariffs. This is because in future the cheaper tariffs offered by suppliers might only be available to customers with smart meters.
If you need to replace your old-style meter because it’s unsafe, you might not be able to refuse a smart meter. This is because not many old-style meters are made now - your supplier might not have any in stock.
You can ask your supplier to install your smart meter with the extra functionality switched off. This means it’ll work in the same way as your current meter, and won’t send any information to your supplier. Contact your supplier to check if they can do this.
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Apparently within the Energy Bill that went through Parliament the other day are measures that allow the authorities to force entry to fit smart meters. :-\
This from citizens advice:
Refusing a smart meter
You don’t have to accept a smart meter if you don’t want one. If your supplier tells you that you must have one installed, contact the Citizens Advice consumer helpline.
If you refuse a smart meter, you might find it hard to access all tariffs. This is because in future the cheaper tariffs offered by suppliers might only be available to customers with smart meters.
If you need to replace your old-style meter because it’s unsafe, you might not be able to refuse a smart meter. This is because not many old-style meters are made now - your supplier might not have any in stock.
You can ask your supplier to install your smart meter with the extra functionality switched off. This means it’ll work in the same way as your current meter, and won’t send any information to your supplier. Contact your supplier to check if they can do this.
When I was with Eon, it was a condition of my deal that I had smart meters fitted. However, every time they wanted to come round to fit them, I had just mysteriously tested positive for Covid! ;D
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When I was with Eon, it was a condition of my deal that I had smart meters fitted. However, every time they wanted to come round to fit them, I had just mysteriously tested positive for Covid! ;D
I’m still with Eon and I still get the messages saying they need to fit a smart meter. A guy did actually turn up one day (they did let me know he was coming) and he said it would take him around ten minutes to change the meter. Over two hours later he swapped them back again as the smart meter wouldn’t work. I have told Eon several times that the electric meter is in a cupboard with foil backed plasterboard and a galvanised door. The only place they will be able to send/receive a signal is when they are actually inside the cupboard. ;D ;D I did smile when he said “I can’t receive shit through there with the cupboard door closed”. ;D
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Today's Net Zero news is that the Govt will hand over £500m of taxpayers hard earned cash to Indian conglomerate TATA, to replace the coal fired blast furnaces at Port Talbot steelworks with electric arc furnaces. ::)
Apparently this will result in about 3000 job losses, will only reduce the UK's total carbon emissions by 1.5% and it will also result increased steel imports.
At least we'll be able to kid ourselves that we are leaders on the 'world stage' with our futile virtual signalling! :)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66819458
Oh... and haven't we been told time over that Net Zero will bring in a green jobs revolution? ??? Tell that to the good folk of Port Talbot! :-X
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It would be greener to just import all of our steel......and cheaper.
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Anyone who thinks you can have a net zero blast furnace clearly didn't pay attention in their Chemistry lessons at school. ::)
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It would be greener to just import all of our steel......and cheaper.
That would be handy in the event of a war so you can easily build more ships, tanks etc. It was only 80 years ago that Britain was involved in building more ships, tanks etc etc.
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I do love the sound of outraged lefties/greenies bumping their gums! ;D
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Interesting article from the Telegraph...
The furious Blob will try to destroy Rishi Sunak for his net zero heresy
Tories must get behind the PM’s green pragmatism, and prepare for a Brexit-style battle in the courts
Linky (https://archive.ph/7oW13)
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Interesting read about balancing the grid with renewables and how it might affect our lifestyle.
Apparently in order to balance the grid, we paid £2.7bn to turn off wind turbines when it was too windy and solar panels when it was too sunny in 2021! :o
https://thecritic.co.uk/the-new-normal-of-net-zero/
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The electric arc furnace is primarily for recycling steel, not making it, so effectively Port Talbot will cease to produce steel. Hence the job losses as no coking plants needed and a much simpler/smaller process
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And of course with the men go all the knowledge
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And we'll import all the steel we need, produced in a blast furnace in Turkey or China instead. :-X ::)
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And we'll import all the steel we need, produced in a blast furnace in Turkey or China instead. :-X ::)
Perhaps we should put the boat peeps to work dismantling ships and farming. It would save a fortune as they would only require food and board, and we could then compete on level terms both for labour and production costs.
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And that would be labelled as Slavery. :D
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Jobs a job💁🏿♂️
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And that would be labelled as Slavery. :D
Why?
They've come here of their own volition.
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You think that small fact would prevent it from being labelled as slavery ?
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They didn't come to do that, though. They came for free stays in minimum three star hotels (the new criteria for hotel accommodation) and free food, clothing, travel, everything.
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Of course they did, poor sods….
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My heart bleeds for the scrounging cu**s.
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They didn't come to do that, though. They came for free stays in minimum three star hotels (the new criteria for hotel accommodation) and free food, clothing, travel, everything.
You mean they might not want to come anymore? That's unfortunate...
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It's all a scam, anyway.
A total of 1,609 scientists, professors and other scholars have signed on to a new declaration that argues there is no climate change crisis.
“There is no climate emergency” is the title of the declaration that consists of 53 pages’ worth of signatories from across the globe, including some Nobel Laureates and other researchers from prestigious universities.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/more-than-1600-scientists-and-other-scholars-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration/ (https://www.thecollegefix.com/more-than-1600-scientists-and-other-scholars-sign-no-climate-emergency-declaration/) September 25, 2023
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On the way home from work this morning I was listening to BBC radio Essex.
They were interviewing a "refugee" who resides at Wethersfield airbase.
He "fled" Iraq because the Government were going to execute him (he actually "fled" from France but never mind)
He has now gone on hunger strike to protest against the fact that the food he is being given isnt up to scratch, and he cant get to see a Doctor as quickly as he would like.
You would have thought that having "fled" from his own Government who wanted to execute him, and being given a roof over his head, free food, free healthcare and pocket money by us Brits, he might show just a morsel of gratitude. ::)
I could post on here what I would do with them, as it would get me locked up. :-X
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Ungrateful bastards when are we going to do something about it FFS and who could do it?
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Our current Home Secretary is trying to do something, but those whole hold the real power wont let her.
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And I keep saying it is a global problem and it will only get worse.
Meloni got in power in Italy and it has got worse not better as her party predicted. Same with the Tories in UK. Do you see a pattern of futility…….
Clmate change deniers make me laugh. The evidence is everywhere.. Mankind does not deserve the Earth. We are all idiots.
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Speak for yourself. :P
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Our current Home Secretary is trying to do something, but those whole hold the real power wont let her.
Excellent speech from SB in the US.
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Our current Home Secretary is trying to do something, but those whole hold the real power wont let her.
Excellent speech from SB in the US.
But was it? Is the US coping with migration? What has it got, about two million people in their asylum system being processed. No cross party support for changes to the system and zero likelihood of it.
I bet nothing changes with a framework agreed post WW2 over 70 years ago.
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On the way home from work this morning I was listening to BBC radio Essex.
They were interviewing a "refugee" who resides at Wethersfield airbase.
He "fled" Iraq because the Government were going to execute him (he actually "fled" from France but never mind)
He has now gone on hunger strike to protest against the fact that the food he is being given isnt up to scratch, and he cant get to see a Doctor as quickly as he would like.
You would have thought that having "fled" from his own Government who wanted to execute him, and being given a roof over his head, free food, free healthcare and pocket money by us Brits, he might show just a morsel of gratitude. ::)
I could post on here what I would do with them, as it would get me locked up. :-X
You may be on to something here. If we can get enough of them to go on hunger strike......... ::)
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And I keep saying it is a global problem and it will only get worse.
Meloni got in power in Italy and it has got worse not better as her party predicted. Same with the Tories in UK. Do you see a pattern of futility…….
Clmate change deniers make me laugh. The evidence is everywhere.. Mankind does not deserve the Earth. We are all idiots.
Ok, I agree we may have a climate crisis, but there is very very little influence over what going to happen that us humans can change. There’s much bigger forces at work than what we could ever control, it takes hell of a job to seed a little rain , where needed, but I agree in more ways than one… we do not deserve this beautiful planet behaving as we are at present👍
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It's simply a case of too little too late, but for some all they can see is £ signs & an opportunity to con more money out of people who can I'll afford it. Nothing lasts forever I'm afraid.
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Yes such an easy bandwagon to jump on and make a killing for some devious companies.