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Title: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 October 2023, 18:10:44
We're being led to believe that a 16 year old went out in the dead of night, to the middle of nowhere and under the cover of a big storm cut down a big 300 year old tree for a laugh.  ::) 

Although apparently a 60 year old man has also been arrested now, and a farm near Hexham has been searched by Northumbria's finest.  Special Branch?  :-X

Joking apart, I wonder what the real reason that tree was cut down and who dunnit?  ???  Looking at the pictures, whoever cut down that tree knew what they were doing and it looks like a professional hit!  ::)

I've seen suggestions that there have been planning applications for windfarms in the area, so maybe that tree was in the way?  I'd imagine that the gap would be handy spot for an access road to get through Hadrian's Wall?  ???

Time will tell and the truth will come out!  ::)  :)
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 October 2023, 18:36:16
Here's a comment I've lifted from an article on the UnHerd website and as well as the author commenting on the professional cut, he also notes that as the person arrested is 16, he is entitled to anonymity.  :-X

Interesting. What's the betting that they don't name the 60 year old either?  ???  ::)

I’ve had a close look at images of the stump. The notch, back cut and hinge are perfect. Also the chainsaw used had a bar length longer than the diameter of the tree where the cut was made. This tree was downed by a person who knew what he was doing. I would be interested to know which way the wind was blowing on the night in question. The fact that the lad who is suspect is 16yrs old and therefore has a right to anonymity is a red flag for me.

Richard Huw Morris. Unherd.com 29/09/23
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: dave the builder on 01 October 2023, 18:39:11
There's 3 conifers about 50 foot high, 2 gardens away from me that need a similar trim ::)
 if anyone has the lads mobile number ? :D
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Raeturbo on 01 October 2023, 18:48:11
Definitely not done by a 16 year old on his own. Obviously someone wanted it gone
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Andy B on 01 October 2023, 19:00:54
There's 3 conifers about 50 foot high, 2 gardens away from me that need a similar trim ::)
 if anyone has the lads mobile number ? :D

and if he could then cut down the sycamore that is my daughter's neighbour's garden .... its roots are lifting their drive & its branches are now brushing her house.  :y
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 October 2023, 19:12:42
There's 3 conifers about 50 foot high, 2 gardens away from me that need a similar trim ::)
 if anyone has the lads mobile number ? :D

and if he could then cut down the sycamore that is my daughter's neighbour's garden .... its roots are lifting their drive & its branches are now brushing her house.  :y

Another comment on the Unherd article noted that 300 years ago the celebrity gardener Capability Brown used to successfully transplant mature trees, so maybe she should offer it to the National Trust!  :y
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 October 2023, 19:14:46
Talking of the National Trust, maybe they had it cut down due to it's age and it's obvious links to slavery and colonialism.  ::)
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Keith ABS on 01 October 2023, 19:28:23
 I have heard through a work collegues network that it was because of the amount of traffic caused in the local area by people wanting to stop and take pictures. Been one or two locals who have voiced there anger about it stating it was ruining the area
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Varche on 01 October 2023, 20:06:11
It was a seriously sad bastard that did that. Most skilled chain  sawers have the utmost respect for trees . That was an act of wanton vandalism and two fingers to folk who enjoyed the tree. I hope they rot in jail
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Raeturbo on 01 October 2023, 20:44:07
I have heard through a work collegues network that it was because of the amount of traffic caused in the local area by people wanting to stop and take pictures. Been one or two locals who have voiced there anger about it stating it was ruining the area
               Although I agree with you on it could be a nuisance perhaps 👍  there are few (national treasures) if you will, such as this, and for some idiot to just chop this tree down which has lived for such a long time deserves a harsh sentence IMO, slowly but surely our national heritage is getting Reamed.
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Varche on 01 October 2023, 21:35:46
I have heard through a work collegues network that it was because of the amount of traffic caused in the local area by people wanting to stop and take pictures. Been one or two locals who have voiced there anger about it stating it was ruining the area

Tough. They seriously need to get a life. ( preferably in jail). Tourism brings in money and better infrastructure.
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 01 October 2023, 21:38:01
Didn't it feature in Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves in the '90s :-\
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 01 October 2023, 21:44:14
I have heard through a work collegues network that it was because of the amount of traffic caused in the local area by people wanting to stop and take pictures. Been one or two locals who have voiced there anger about it stating it was ruining the area

Tough. They seriously need to get a life. ( preferably in jail). Tourism brings in money and better infrastructure.
Would you be quite so unsympathetic if they were parking on/blocking access to your property and traipsing across your land to see it , with the accompanying wild camping and littering that seems to follow... ???

Chopping the tree down is no different to enforcing double yellow lines along the entire NC500.

Yes, well managed tourism brings visitors and revenue but you can also argue that poorly managed tourism destroys local communities for the people living there... think the smaller Cotswold villages, or the cottages at Burling Gap.
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: STEMO on 01 October 2023, 22:15:39
There's 3 conifers about 50 foot high, 2 gardens away from me that need a similar trim ::)
 if anyone has the lads mobile number ? :D

and if he could then cut down the sycamore that is my daughter's neighbour's garden .... its roots are lifting their drive & its branches are now brushing her house.  :y
Can't you ask it to stop brushing the house and do the drive instead?  :)
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 October 2023, 23:34:32
According to the Guardian, someone went and planted a sapling and the National Trust went and dug it up.  ::)

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/oct/01/sapling-planted-at-sycamore-gap-removed-by-national-trust

Of course they can't just leave it there. Millions of pounds will have to be spent on experts and consultants before they decide what to do.  :-\  :P
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Andy B on 01 October 2023, 23:56:00
....
Can't you ask it to stop brushing the house and do the drive instead?  :)

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Varche on 02 October 2023, 08:14:20
 ;D ;D ;D That would be right.

Parish councils and town halls exist to solve such problems.

In the meantime bring back the stocks ( preferably made of ash) and a big supply of vinegared conkers.
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: ronnyd on 02 October 2023, 09:02:20
;D ;D ;D That would be right.

Parish councils and town halls exist to solve such problems.

In the meantime bring back the stocks ( preferably made of ash) and a big supply of vinegared conkers.
I thought that they were flowers. :-[
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: TheBoy on 02 October 2023, 10:57:17
Here's a comment I've lifted from an article on the UnHerd website and as well as the author commenting on the professional cut, he also notes that as the person arrested is 16, he is entitled to anonymity.  :-X

Interesting. What's the betting that they don't name the 60 year old either?  ???  ::)

I’ve had a close look at images of the stump. The notch, back cut and hinge are perfect. Also the chainsaw used had a bar length longer than the diameter of the tree where the cut was made. This tree was downed by a person who knew what he was doing. I would be interested to know which way the wind was blowing on the night in question. The fact that the lad who is suspect is 16yrs old and therefore has a right to anonymity is a red flag for me.

Richard Huw Morris. Unherd.com 29/09/23
And what a load of codswallop he is spouting.  At the age of 8 I could and did fell trees like that. And did a better job.  Still, don't let common sense and truth get in the way of a good conspiracy :)
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: STEMO on 02 October 2023, 11:02:15
It's only a bit of wood.
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Rangie on 02 October 2023, 12:11:25
Wilful destruction, but whoever did it will no doubt have had "mental health issues" this allows the  " sufferer" do virtually do anything criminal knowing f**k all will happen to them.
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: cam.in.head on 02 October 2023, 13:40:23
exactly the same as the other 'suspicious' circumstances that have caused various listed buildings and the like to be'accidently destroyed'around the country over the years.
either this WAS a prank by a child in which case nothing will probably happen to him
or
it was an intensional felling by someone in power in which case nothing will happen there either !
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Raeturbo on 02 October 2023, 15:28:57
Fk all will happen in a country where shoplifting has become an acceptable profession.
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 02 October 2023, 16:02:40
Fk all will happen in a country where shoplifting has become an acceptable profession.
If you need to see where we're heading go to Vancouver, Seattle or San Francisco.

The newly opened judgement free drug zone, or whatever the marketing wank title for it is, in Glasgow is the epitome of all that's wrong with lefty socialist thinking.
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Raeturbo on 02 October 2023, 17:25:20
Yes I agree, and it’s obviously going to get progressively worse, and those drug zones have got to be a crazy idea surely
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: STEMO on 02 October 2023, 17:35:56
Yes I agree, and it’s obviously going to get progressively worse, and those drug zones have got to be a crazy idea surely
Unless you're a drug addict, then they're pretty cool........I would imagine  ;D
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 02 October 2023, 18:27:57
The only way they could be positive, is if they supply uncut versions of the various drugs and at much higher concentrations than than can be obtained on the street. Anyone who wants to role the dice can overdose themselves to oblivion. Eventually they'll run out of customers.

Outlawing Narcan would also be a step in the right direction. If someone overdoses, that should be on them and not burden the medical systems.
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 October 2023, 19:36:46
Here's a comment I've lifted from an article on the UnHerd website and as well as the author commenting on the professional cut, he also notes that as the person arrested is 16, he is entitled to anonymity.  :-X

Interesting. What's the betting that they don't name the 60 year old either?  ???  ::)

I’ve had a close look at images of the stump. The notch, back cut and hinge are perfect. Also the chainsaw used had a bar length longer than the diameter of the tree where the cut was made. This tree was downed by a person who knew what he was doing. I would be interested to know which way the wind was blowing on the night in question. The fact that the lad who is suspect is 16yrs old and therefore has a right to anonymity is a red flag for me.

Richard Huw Morris. Unherd.com 29/09/23
And what a load of codswallop he is spouting.  At the age of 8 I could and did fell trees like that. And did a better job.  Still, don't let common sense and truth get in the way of a good conspiracy :)

Your 8 year old arms must have been like Popeye's to wield a chainsaw big enough to cut down a tree like that!  :o  ::)

Did you eat a can of spinach for breakfast before going off for a hard day's lumberjacking?  ;D

Here's a song for TB! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FshU58nI0Ts)   :)                                                                                        :P ;D
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: STEMO on 02 October 2023, 19:55:15
Here's a comment I've lifted from an article on the UnHerd website and as well as the author commenting on the professional cut, he also notes that as the person arrested is 16, he is entitled to anonymity.  :-X

Interesting. What's the betting that they don't name the 60 year old either?  ???  ::)

I’ve had a close look at images of the stump. The notch, back cut and hinge are perfect. Also the chainsaw used had a bar length longer than the diameter of the tree where the cut was made. This tree was downed by a person who knew what he was doing. I would be interested to know which way the wind was blowing on the night in question. The fact that the lad who is suspect is 16yrs old and therefore has a right to anonymity is a red flag for me.

Richard Huw Morris. Unherd.com 29/09/23
And what a load of codswallop he is spouting.  At the age of 8 I could and did fell trees like that. And did a better job.  Still, don't let common sense and truth get in the way of a good conspiracy :)

Your 8 year old arms must have been like Popeye's to wield a chainsaw big enough to cut down a tree like that!  :o  ::)

Did you eat a can of spinach for breakfast before going off for a hard day's lumberjacking?  ;D

Here's a song for TB! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FshU58nI0Ts)   :)                                                                                        :P ;D
;D ;D ;D

Popeye had mahoosive forearms but weedy little biceps. Too much wànking over pictures of the beautiful Olive  ;D
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Raeturbo on 02 October 2023, 20:43:48
Yep I was deep sea diving for BP when I was 7and a half👍
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: STEMO on 02 October 2023, 20:48:03
Yep I was deep sea diving for BP when I was 7and a half👍
I thought you'd have been shifting two tons a day at the coal face. Or did you do a couple of years of that first?
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Raeturbo on 03 October 2023, 00:48:37
I did that each morning (early shift) on my way in to the dives👍 bloody hard work at that age and all for £15 a month for both jobs
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 October 2023, 14:18:05
You had two jobs ! You lucky privileged bastard.  ;D
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Raeturbo on 03 October 2023, 14:55:29
Oi! Less of the lucky🤣🤣
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: TheBoy on 03 October 2023, 16:06:39
wield a chainsaw big enough to cut down a tree like that!  :o  ::)
That wasn't a tree, it was an overgrown bush!
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: Raeturbo on 03 October 2023, 16:10:28
That wasn’t a bush that was a twiglet
Title: Re: Sycamore Gap
Post by: grifter on 03 October 2023, 22:32:12
Fk all will happen in a country where shoplifting has become an acceptable profession.
If you need to see where we're heading go to Vancouver, Seattle or San Francisco.

The newly opened judgement free drug zone, or whatever the marketing wank title for it is, in Glasgow is the epitome of all that's wrong with lefty socialist thinking.

The other name for jagging up clinics in Glasgow is the bus shelter!