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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Andy H on 11 May 2024, 22:50:41
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I need a starter motor for a 2006 Ford Galaxy 2.0l duratorq TDCi.
Where do people source parts nowadays?
I see repeated complaints about ECP but people keep going back for more :-\ They list a 'starline' starter for £123.
GSF list a 'WAI' starter for £82. Never heard of 'WAI' but always been happy with GSF so would be happy to go with that one.
Prices for parts from manufacturers I recognise (Bosch, Valeo, Lucas etc) are somewhat higher............
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Ebay. New or 2nd hand.
I bought a 2nd hand starter for my 2.2TDCi Mondeo for £40 about 3 years ago and it's been fine. :y
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You have to watch out with these cheap pattern parts, D (where I have my unit) fitted a NAPA alternator to a Ford and the warning light stayed on. Well known fault apparently as when he got a genuine Ford one the first thing the storeman as was has it got a NAPA fitted!!
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WAI and Starline are hit and miss to be honest,Lucas is just a name now as the company folded years ago,Bosch,Valeo are good quality parts but as you say at premium price
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Does the old adage 'you get what you pay for' still hold true these days? :-\
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Does the old adage 'you get what you pay for' still hold true these days? :-\
No more or less than it ever did. Just because something is expensive does not mean it's worth buying. And that's true for whatever metric you use for value.
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One the mighty Vivaro, it had various fault codes, this was traced to a ECP maf,, Put a Genuine GM in, all codes disappear. Loads of Ecp/GSF is crap Chinese...
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No more or less than it ever did. Just because something is expensive does not mean it's worth buying. And that's true for whatever metric you use for value.
apart from the brand leader of baked beans ::) ::)
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I bought an OE starter from Mercedes when I needed one for my Smart due to it being such a tw4t to fit. Had it been easier to replace I might have considered a pattern part!
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I bought an OE starter from Mercedes when I needed one for my Smart due to it being such a tw4t to fit. Had it been easier to replace I might have considered a pattern part!
You can't say things like that on here! :o ;D
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You can't say things like that on here! :o ;D
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You can't say things like that on here! :o ;D
I still remember the telling off I got for buying a crank position sensor that didn't come from a VX parts desk. :o :o :o
To actually answer the OPs question, we're fortunate around here to have a regional motor factors - c5 branches in the local towns that between them either have everything you could reasonably want in stock or can get it same day from another branch.
Been going there on and off since I passed my test (*cough* 23yrs ago this November) and never had a dud part. One of the chaps at the Shrewsbury branch has been there since before I started going.
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and off since I passed my test (*cough* 23yrs ago this November) and .....
still a novice then ;) ;)
I passed my car test 2nd Aug 1979 & my bike test Nov 1980 :y :y
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Started riding bikes at around 14 / 15 so around 1974. Passed my test in the late 90,s. :-X ::) ;D
Swmbo discovered I was an actual hooligan, so had to go legit. The world was changing anyway, and that kind of thing just wasnt on anymore, and rightly so.
Passed car test Feb. 1978.
Back to motor factors. I avoid ECP now because the prices seem to have gone through the roof in the last couple of years.
Their own brand stuff such as Pagid, is now cheaper to buy from Halfords than ECP.
My nearest branch of ECP also closed down last year, so other options are closer now.
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is now cheaper to buy from Halfords ....
I didn't think that Halfords was cheaper than anyone! ::)
My go-to motor factors used to be owned by a mate but has now been ultimately been taken over by GSF :-\
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Not many independent factors left, ECP have taken over the world.
I'd definitely avoid Starline - in fact my MOT man is always ranting at ECP when I go in, because they sent him Starline when he said any brand but Starline ;D
If its a bastid job, sometimes branded is worth the extra to reduce the risk of having to do it again in 2 months...
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and off since I passed my test (*cough* 23yrs ago this November) and .....
still a novice then ;) ;)
I passed my car test 2nd Aug 1979 & my bike test Nov 1980 :y :y
Passed bike test in 1962, 3 attempts :-[ . Car was in 1966, first time thanks to my late Dad. Drove a Reliant on my bike licence and the gearbox was similar
to his HA Viva so just a few drive arounds needed.
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and off since I passed my test (*cough* 23yrs ago this November) and .....
still a novice then ;) ;)
I passed my car test 2nd Aug 1979 & my bike test Nov 1980 :y :y
Passed bike test in 1962, 3 attempts :-[ . Car was in 1966, first time thanks to my late Dad. Drove a Reliant on my bike licence and the gearbox was similar
to his HA Viva so just a few drive arounds needed.
That was the year I was born ::) ;D ;D
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Not many independent factors left, ECP have taken over the world.
I'd definitely avoid Starline - in fact my MOT man is always ranting at ECP when I go in, because they sent him Starline when he said any brand but Starline ;D
If its a bastid job, sometimes branded is worth the extra to reduce the risk of having to do it again in 2 months...
There were two independent factors that I used for 20+ years when I lived in Dunstable (Milehams & Dunstable Motor Factors).
Milehams still appear to have the same signage that they had 30 years ago, DMF looks the same but is now Dunstable Motor Spares. No idea if they are as good as they used to be, I haven't been near the town for 15 years.
It took me about 90 minutes to get the starter off, take the end cap off for a look-see and then reassemble everything so not a bastid job ;)
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Remember as well that ECP and GSF have the same parent company and are now both known to inflate the retail prices to offer the discount. I have a trade account with GSF as I have caught them increasing the retail price by 50% to offer a 40% discount, which was still 16% dearer than if I did a click and collect as a retail customer. Warranty is a nightmare, electrical will almost certainly be declined unless from a garage and then, they insist you purchase a replacement in most cases whilst they claim to try and get a warranty claim paid out for you. Avoid both like the plague now, use a local factors called ABM.
Almost anyone that has the “Parts Alliance” logo will probably be as bad as ECP.
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If it was me and an eighteen year old Ford that had sat under a tree for a few years, it would definitely be getting a second hand starter from ebay or a scrappy! :y
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If it was me and an eighteen year old Ford that had sat under a tree for a few years, it would definitely be getting a second hand starter from ebay or a scrappy! :y
I am inclined to agree with you.
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Passed car test Feb. 1978.
Passed mine in 1969.
Yep, almost a fossil. ::) ;D ;D
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whats the actual fault on yours ? brushes or solenoid ?
id be inclined to repair the original . better chance of it bring more reliable than an aftermarket or recon and you woudnt know the history of a scrappy one !
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whats the actual fault on yours ? brushes or solenoid ?
id be inclined to repair the original . better chance of it bring more reliable than an aftermarket or recon and you woudnt know the history of a scrappy one !
Agreed. many many years ago I bought a recon alternator for my Cortina (it was THAT long ago) .... I think they'd just painted it!
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whats the actual fault on yours ? brushes or solenoid ?
id be inclined to repair the original . better chance of it bring more reliable than an aftermarket or recon and you woudnt know the history of a scrappy one !
It sounds like a handful of rusty nuts and bolts being shaken in a biscuit tin.
I pulled the end cap off and found that the bearing/bush in the endcap has been worn (or bludgeoned) into an oval shape. It is almost as if the aluminium casting was too soft to support the bush :-\
Didn't bother pulling any more parts off but from what I could see the brushes are still good and the other end of the motor & solenoid are also unharmed.
I turned the endplate through 180 degrees when I refitted it which seems to have bought me some time to source a replacement.
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whats the actual fault on yours ? brushes or solenoid ?
id be inclined to repair the original . better chance of it bring more reliable than an aftermarket or recon and you woudnt know the history of a scrappy one !
Agreed. many many years ago I bought a recon alternator for my Cortina (it was THAT long ago) .... I think they'd just painted it!
What's a Cortina? ??? :P ;D
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Within a mile and a half of me there's a large Halfords an ECP and a Parkers while at the far end of town[about 3 miles]there are two Independant motor factors.
I remember the Cortina[and so many more]being launched-Consul Classic,Consul Capri,Triumph herald,Mini to name a few. :-X
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Yes and I have worked on all of them. I use the same factors I have done since 96, name and owner change and now part of Alliance network, yes they are shit now.
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Within a mile and a half of me there's a large Halfords an ECP and a Parkers while at the far end of town[about 3 miles]there are two Independant motor factors.
I remember the Cortina[and so many more]being launched-Consul Classic,Consul Capri,Triumph herald,Mini to name a few. :-X
In Lord Opti years I'm only 19, so don't know about these Cortinas of which you all speak. :)
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Passed car test Feb. 1978.
Passed mine in 1969.
Yep, almost a fossil. ::) ;D ;D
Strewth.....Harold Wilson was PM then and some bloke was just about to say " That's one small step for man" :)
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Within a mile and a half of me there's a large Halfords an ECP and a Parkers while at the far end of town[about 3 miles]there are two Independant motor factors.
I remember the Cortina[and so many more]being launched-Consul Classic,Consul Capri,Triumph herald,Mini to name a few. :-X
In Lord Opti years I'm only 19, so don't know about these Cortinas of which you all speak. :)
I thought you had a Ford Model T brand new as a first car?
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Used to have an good indy motor factors near me, i see it's now Wilco. Time will tell i suppose. :-\
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Cheeky sod VXL :P I'll have you know I've never bought a car brand new and nor will I ever do so! I have however had a brief[about 10 miles]drive of a Model T some years ago which was an "interesting" experience.