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Title: European elections
Post by: STEMO on 09 June 2024, 07:40:11
The makeup of the European Parliament could change dramatically tonight, when the results are announced. A surge by the 'far right' threatens to upset the bloc's views on environmental and immigration issues. Interesting times.
https://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-exit-poll-labour-green-alliance-far-right-geert-wilders-european-parliament-polls-pvv/

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Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 June 2024, 12:52:01
There's always hope.
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: STEMO on 09 June 2024, 13:00:48
There's always hope.
As with all things, I'd like to cherry pick, but I can't. I would love to see the net zero and immigration bandwagon come to a screeching halt, but I'm not keen on closer ties with Putin.
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 June 2024, 13:15:52
Funny how 5 years ago while the Continentals were voting for Green and other left wing parties, we gave the Tories a big majority.

Now the tables have turned and as we lurch to the left, the Continentals are going in the opposite direction.
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 June 2024, 13:42:01
Wait until Starmer gives 16 year olds the vote. We could have left wing governments permanently.  >:(
He says they are old enough to pay  tax, so its only fair they should be allowed to vote.
I would propose to make it simpler still. If you pay tax you can vote. If you dont, you cant.  :)
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Varche on 09 June 2024, 14:11:18
Where would that leave pensioners on low incomes.?
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: ronnyd on 09 June 2024, 14:23:45
Where would that leave pensioners on low incomes.?
As long as they all maintain the 'triple lock', i wouldn't give a shit if i couldn't vote for any of the self serving tvvats.  ;D
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Rangie on 09 June 2024, 19:30:53
I have no intention of ever voting again, they're all a bunch of useless cu**s & we are so deep in the shit we've got no chance of climbing back out. Just seen Starmer promise to build more prisons not a lot of use if you have no staff to manage them, they are leaving in droves, at my old establishment two new members of staff have committed suicide in the last four weeks.
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 June 2024, 21:27:03
Starmer has made cast iron promises not to raise the " big three" taxes.
So, watch out for your private pension funds. I expect them to be attacked, Gordon Brown style. And possibly a wealth tax and tax on nice houses.
We may not care when they tax multi millionaires on their wealth, or people who live in houses we couldnt afford, but once it starts it wont stop.
As the sums increasingly dont add up the threshold for the taxes will become ever lower.
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: STEMO on 09 June 2024, 22:20:57
Macron is obviously shit scared Marine Le Pen will get in if he left it till 2027

https://news.sky.com/story/president-emmanuel-macron-dissolves-french-national-assembly-and-calls-for-snap-election-13150407
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: STEMO on 09 June 2024, 22:38:43
Belgian prime minister gone too.
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 June 2024, 23:20:47
There will be much wailing and knashing of teeth in the Palace of Berlaymont tonight!  >:D
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 June 2024, 00:08:52
The Belgian Government may as well be a civil service chat bot. :-X
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 10 June 2024, 11:29:37
Is Belgium actually a real country ?  ::)
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 June 2024, 12:49:49
Is Belgium actually a real country ?  ::)
Good question well presented  ;D
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 June 2024, 13:04:42
Is Belgium actually a real country ?  ::)

No.....
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 June 2024, 13:07:22
Marine Le Pen is flying high and Macron is worried.
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 June 2024, 13:24:18
Looks like there might be elections in Germany as well.
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 June 2024, 13:41:21
Looks like there might be elections in Germany as well.

A swing to the right is nearly always a response to extreme left wing lunacy.

100 genders, men in women's prisons, unlimited immigration. That type of thing.

Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 June 2024, 14:47:30
Looks like there might be elections in Germany as well.

A swing to the right is nearly always a response to extreme left wing lunacy.

100 genders, men in women's prisons, unlimited immigration. That type of thing.

Except in Britain.  :-X
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 June 2024, 15:06:10
Looks like there might be elections in Germany as well.

A swing to the right is nearly always a response to extreme left wing lunacy.

100 genders, men in women's prisons, unlimited immigration. That type of thing.

Except in Britain.  :-X

I nearly forgot that June is pride month and we must all bow down to the new religion. ::)

https://youtu.be/_gLsAudlj8Y?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/_gLsAudlj8Y?feature=shared)
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 June 2024, 15:39:44
Looks like there might be elections in Germany as well.

A swing to the right is nearly always a response to extreme left wing lunacy.

100 genders, men in women's prisons, unlimited immigration. That type of thing.

Except in Britain.  :-X

I nearly forgot that June is pride month and we must all bow down to the new religion. ::)

https://youtu.be/_gLsAudlj8Y?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/_gLsAudlj8Y?feature=shared)

You'd think that on the 80th anniversary of D-Day, probably the last major anniversary many of the surviving Vets will see, our governing classes would have thought it right to hang out the Union Flags for the occasion and maybe have a garden party at Buck House with the King and Queen for those old boys.  ::)

But no, Sunak's attitude sums them up and they think hanging out the alphabet soup flags is far more important!  :-X

Clucking funts....  >:(
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 June 2024, 16:02:14
Looks like there might be elections in Germany as well.

A swing to the right is nearly always a response to extreme left wing lunacy.

100 genders, men in women's prisons, unlimited immigration. That type of thing.

Except in Britain.  :-X

I nearly forgot that June is pride month and we must all bow down to the new religion. ::)

https://youtu.be/_gLsAudlj8Y?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/_gLsAudlj8Y?feature=shared)

You'd think that on the 80th anniversary of D-Day, probably the last major anniversary many of the surviving Vets will see, our governing classes would have thought it right to hang out the Union Flags for the occasion and maybe have a garden party at Buck House with the King and Queen for those old boys.  ::)

But no, Sunak's attitude sums them up and they think hanging out the alphabet soup flags is far more important!  :-X

Clucking funts....  >:(

I fear that may be considered racist to certain element of our 'diverse' population. :-X

Whereas everyone loves the pride flag. ::)
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: STEMO on 10 June 2024, 16:14:28
Change is coming......hopefully  :)
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 June 2024, 17:31:39
Looks like there might be elections in Germany as well.

A swing to the right is nearly always a response to extreme left wing lunacy.

100 genders, men in women's prisons, unlimited immigration. That type of thing.

Except in Britain.  :-X

I nearly forgot that June is pride month and we must all bow down to the new religion. ::)

https://youtu.be/_gLsAudlj8Y?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/_gLsAudlj8Y?feature=shared)

You'd think that on the 80th anniversary of D-Day, probably the last major anniversary many of the surviving Vets will see, our governing classes would have thought it right to hang out the Union Flags for the occasion and maybe have a garden party at Buck House with the King and Queen for those old boys.  ::)

But no, Sunak's attitude sums them up and they think hanging out the alphabet soup flags is far more important!  :-X

Clucking funts....  >:(

I fear that may be considered racist to certain element of our 'diverse' population. :-X

Whereas everyone loves the pride flag. ::)

Yes some of the more demented might think that, but troops from all over the Empire/Commonwealth took part in D-Day.  ::)
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: STEMO on 10 June 2024, 22:54:23
I do like Matt 😂

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Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Raeturbo on 10 June 2024, 23:45:07
Where would that leave pensioners on low incomes.?
As long as they all maintain the 'triple lock', i wouldn't give a shit if i couldn't vote for any of the self serving tvvats.  ;D
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Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Raeturbo on 10 June 2024, 23:45:33
I have no intention of ever voting again, they're all a bunch of useless cu**s & we are so deep in the shit we've got no chance of climbing back out. Just seen Starmer promise to build more prisons not a lot of use if you have no staff to manage them, they are leaving in droves, at my old establishment two new members of staff have committed suicide in the last four weeks.
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Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 June 2024, 19:47:22
Thing is, if you don't vote, then you have no right to bitch and moan about the outcome.
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: STEMO on 11 June 2024, 20:00:02
Thing is, if you don't vote, then you have no right to bitch and moan about the outcome.
Bitching and moaning after the event is a pretty pointless exercise.
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 June 2024, 20:47:45
Thing is, if you don't vote, then you have no right to bitch and moan about the outcome.
Bitching and moaning after the event is a pretty pointless exercise.

I dunno, I'm quite looking forward to bitching and moaning about our shiny new Labour Govt to my lefty mate down the pub.  :y

Seeing him twist, turn and squirm as he tries to defend the inevitable shit show will be quite amusing!  :)
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Varche on 11 June 2024, 21:25:08
We have some Scottish friends here who can see no ills with the SNP. Even the charge of appropriation of party funds . “ let’s see what the court decides”!

Illustrates to me how some people stick with a party regardless.
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: STEMO on 11 June 2024, 21:56:21
Thing is, if you don't vote, then you have no right to bitch and moan about the outcome.
Bitching and moaning after the event is a pretty pointless exercise.

I dunno, I'm quite looking forward to bitching and moaning about our shiny new Labour Govt to my lefty mate down the pub.  :y

Seeing him twist, turn and squirm as he tries to defend the inevitable shit show will be quite amusing!  :)
Maybe, but you must have been turning, twisting and squirming for the last five years or so  :)
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 June 2024, 22:19:48
Thing is, if you don't vote, then you have no right to bitch and moan about the outcome.
Bitching and moaning after the event is a pretty pointless exercise.

I dunno, I'm quite looking forward to bitching and moaning about our shiny new Labour Govt to my lefty mate down the pub.  :y

Seeing him twist, turn and squirm as he tries to defend the inevitable shit show will be quite amusing!  :)
Indeed, but having voted for anything else you have that right ;)

Not voting at all removes that pleasure.
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: STEMO on 11 June 2024, 22:41:56
Thing is, if you don't vote, then you have no right to bitch and moan about the outcome.
Bitching and moaning after the event is a pretty pointless exercise.

I dunno, I'm quite looking forward to bitching and moaning about our shiny new Labour Govt to my lefty mate down the pub.  :y

Seeing him twist, turn and squirm as he tries to defend the inevitable shit show will be quite amusing!  :)
Indeed, but having voted for anything else you have that right ;)

Not voting at all removes that pleasure.
I don't need to vote to bitch and moan, no one will know. Only me and, like most politicians, I'm not telling  :P
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 June 2024, 23:19:39
Thing is, if you don't vote, then you have no right to bitch and moan about the outcome.
Bitching and moaning after the event is a pretty pointless exercise.

I dunno, I'm quite looking forward to bitching and moaning about our shiny new Labour Govt to my lefty mate down the pub.  :y

Seeing him twist, turn and squirm as he tries to defend the inevitable shit show will be quite amusing!  :)
Maybe, but you must have been turning, twisting and squirming for the last five years or so  :)

Not really. I've just agreed with him!  ;D
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Viral_Jim on 12 June 2024, 08:45:14
Thing is, if you don't vote, then you have no right to bitch and moan about the outcome.
Bitching and moaning after the event is a pretty pointless exercise.

I dunno, I'm quite looking forward to bitching and moaning about our shiny new Labour Govt to my lefty mate down the pub.  :y

Seeing him twist, turn and squirm as he tries to defend the inevitable shit show will be quite amusing!  :)

TBH you'll have to give it a few years for the 'blaming the last government ' shite to die off. Tbf, the current government tried it well into their second term in power so fair's fair I guess.  ;D
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 June 2024, 10:18:28
Thing is, if you don't vote, then you have no right to bitch and moan about the outcome.
Bitching and moaning after the event is a pretty pointless exercise.

I dunno, I'm quite looking forward to bitching and moaning about our shiny new Labour Govt to my lefty mate down the pub.  :y

Seeing him twist, turn and squirm as he tries to defend the inevitable shit show will be quite amusing!  :)

TBH you'll have to give it a few years for the 'blaming the last government ' shite to die off. Tbf, the current government tried it well into their second term in power so fair's fair I guess.  ;D
I don't know, we're still paying for the last Labour shitfest.
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 June 2024, 10:48:43
Thing is, if you don't vote, then you have no right to bitch and moan about the outcome.
Bitching and moaning after the event is a pretty pointless exercise.

I dunno, I'm quite looking forward to bitching and moaning about our shiny new Labour Govt to my lefty mate down the pub.  :y

Seeing him twist, turn and squirm as he tries to defend the inevitable shit show will be quite amusing!  :)

TBH you'll have to give it a few years for the 'blaming the last government ' shite to die off. Tbf, the current government tried it well into their second term in power so fair's fair I guess.  ;D

Well given that my mate has dismissed that argument since 2010, I won't be giving him any quarter!  ;D

They talk a lot about the '14 years', but it did take nearly 10 years to sort out the whopping budget deficit that Labour left behind, then there was the Brexit chaos mostly caused by Labour, the Limp Dems and the Tory wets, and then along came covid...   :-X

Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 June 2024, 12:08:21
We have some Scottish friends here who can see no ills with the SNP. Even the charge of appropriation of party funds . “ let’s see what the court decides”!

Illustrates to me how some people stick with a party regardless.

 Unthinking Dogma.

 For  generations my family has always voted for Labour/ Tory /SNP/ Libs etc..etc. so I  do the same without giving it much thought.

I consider myself apolitical. :)
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 12 June 2024, 14:02:10
Do the right thing this time around.  ;)
The whole bloody shambles needs to be Reformed.  :)
Title: Re: European elections
Post by: Raeturbo on 13 June 2024, 11:46:09
Hear hear^