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Title: walk around scrapyards
Post by: cam.in.head on 17 August 2024, 15:58:04
just out of curiosity there are not many scrapyards nowadays that let you walk around
there are two good ones in altham accrington that let you wander at your free will and leave you to it .  based west yorkshire it's still a good hour treck thou
does anyone know if the 4 in carlton barnsley are still there and let you in ?
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: STEMO on 17 August 2024, 16:17:29
just out of curiosity there are not many scrapyards nowadays that let you walk around
there are two good ones in altham accrington that let you wander at your free will and leave you to it .  based west yorkshire it's still a good hour treck thou
does anyone know if the 4 in carlton barnsley are still there and let you in ?
I've just driven past them. Still open but I have no idea if you can wander around.

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Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: STEMO on 17 August 2024, 16:23:07
Just rang Welbournes and he said you're welcome to have a wander round, so that's your starter for ten.
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Rangie on 17 August 2024, 18:15:19
Still got one in Spalding but has shrunk dramatically in size, not many folk in older cars now all due to the PCP plans that are on offer.
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: cam.in.head on 17 August 2024, 18:30:19
Just rang Welbournes and he said you're welcome to have a wander round, so that's your starter for ten.

thankyou very much for that
sounds like a day out coming up soon then !
cheers
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 August 2024, 18:42:32
Still got one in Spalding but has shrunk dramatically in size, not many folk in older cars now all due to the PCP plans that are on offer.

Yes the yooves of today will never know the joys of hunting round a muddy scrap yard in the pissing rain, only to find the car you need is precariously stacked on top of two others, and clambouring up to find that some bugger has got there before you and nicked the part you needed!  :D
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 17 August 2024, 18:59:23
Those were the days.  :y ;D
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: cam.in.head on 17 August 2024, 19:02:29
not expecting to find any omegas let alone vivas or cavaliers but there's always something !
but yes fantastic times . we used to go virtually every saturday morning to our local ones around halifax and come back with stuff you might need one day ! seats,trims , engines etc. remember going for a viva dashboard top and came out with a newly recon engine and gearbox !
back in the days when you could unbolt an engine and 2 people lift it out in a couple of hours !
still got spare for my classics now that i got that would cost a fortune to find and buy now .
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Raeturbo on 17 August 2024, 19:54:12
Still got one in Spalding but has shrunk dramatically in size, not many folk in older cars now all due to the PCP plans that are on offer.

Yes the yooves of today will never know the joys of hunting round a muddy scrap yard in the pissing rain, only to find the car you need is precariously stacked on top of two others, and clambouring up to find that some bugger has got there before you and nicked the part you needed!  :D
               Ha ha ain’t that the truth 🤣 I used to go to Neil Jenkins father’s  scrapyard it was on a farm in Cymmer/ Porth. And a very good Rally drivers scrapie from Tonypandy Jeff Churchill 👍
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Rangie on 17 August 2024, 20:06:53
Still got one in Spalding but has shrunk dramatically in size, not many folk in older cars now all due to the PCP plans that are on offer.

Yes the yooves of today will never know the joys of hunting round a muddy scrap yard in the pissing rain, only to find the car you need is precariously stacked on top of two others, and clambouring up to find that some bugger has got there before you and nicked the part you needed!  :D
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When I picked up my Range Rover earlier in the week I was chatting to Allan who owns   the garage he told me that a lot of the independents are suffering from reduced business  because PCP ties  the people into having their vehicles maintained at the main dealerships.
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Varche on 18 August 2024, 07:15:59
I once got locked in a scrapyard in Leicester. I was working at getting some suspension part off a Wolsey 16/60. I could hear this low grrr ing noise and there were two Dobermans watching me. I figured it had gone six.. So continued working and got the part and very carefully moved from pile to pile and then lowered my metal tool box down the perimeter wall on a bit of the Massey Harris band everyone had in those days. Then I dropped down . All parts free!  Things have changed a lot in the last 50 years……..
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Rangie on 18 August 2024, 09:10:10
I once got a really quite nice set of MK2 Ford Granada alloys from our local scrappie for about £30 & a set of Capri alloys for a mates Cortina they looked a treat.
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: cam.in.head on 20 August 2024, 18:00:32
just been over to carlton today.
two yards that let you wander around freely    carlton  breakers and one opposite it . prices good . got a clit interior set of black door panels and trims all for £25.
no omegas . few vectras in and astras.
welbourne's exists but it's not a scrapyard now as such. no cars in just a lot of doors piled up !
still a great way to spend a day out thou.  girlfriends getting into it now as well .
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: johnnydog on 20 August 2024, 20:39:14
You don't know how lucky you are Chris - when we met up a for the last couple of visits at the one at Accrington, it was great to see her passing you tools, carrying the parts you'd taken off and patiently waiting whilst all the good stuff was removed from that Omega! Can't see my wife going anywhere near a breakers - it takes me all my time to get her to travel in my Omegas (apparantly, they are big, heavy, 'old man' cars ::))!!
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: cam.in.head on 21 August 2024, 08:14:05
shes learning and getting there . dont think i could be with anyone who was afraid of mucking in !
going back years a former girfriend and i would happily change viva / chevette engines just for fun. she used to say " which car are we swapping engine today  in ? and we would pop another engine from my shed into my viva "to give it a run " and this involved the two of us physically lifting it out onto the front on some mats whilst we climbed off and lifted it down onto the floor. usually had it done and dusted in a few hours ready to go to the chip shop !
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Rangie on 21 August 2024, 08:50:21
My father in law was a Jaguar trained mechanic he taught my wife how to change a wheel set points and change oil & filters, then she met me..😂
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: TheBoy on 21 August 2024, 09:37:40
You don't know how lucky you are Chris - when we met up a for the last couple of visits at the one at Accrington, it was great to see her passing you tools, carrying the parts you'd taken off and patiently waiting whilst all the good stuff was removed from that Omega! Can't see my wife going anywhere near a breakers - it takes me all my time to get her to travel in my Omegas (apparantly, they are big, heavy, 'old man' cars ::))!!
I have to promise Mrs TB an ice cream or lunch if she comes around the scrappers with me ;D
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: TheBoy on 21 August 2024, 09:39:31
My father in law was a Jaguar trained mechanic he taught my wife how to change a wheel set points and change oil & filters, then she met me..😂
Mrs TB knows how to change a wheel, but cant do the wheels on my car due to the weight of them, and having to line them up on the studs whilst fighting the weight.

I'll let her off, as I often struggle!
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: dave the builder on 21 August 2024, 11:10:58
My father in law was a Jaguar trained mechanic he taught my wife how to change a wheel set points and change oil & filters, then she met me..😂
Mrs TB knows how to change a wheel, but cant do the wheels on my car due to the weight of them, and having to line them up on the studs whilst fighting the weight.

I'll let her off, as I often struggle!
There used to be a tool in the Jag or Merc  tool kit previously (20+ years ago )
a bar about 9" long ,coated in the centre with grey plastic , you insert it through a wheel hole ,
pick the wheel up and insert the tool into a hub hole to align the holes
and it takes the weight while you insert a couple of wheel bolts

a bit like a Scaffolder's podger

Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 August 2024, 11:46:44
There still is... Presuming it has a spare and tool kit. :y
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Rangie on 21 August 2024, 11:54:27
My father in law was a Jaguar trained mechanic he taught my wife how to change a wheel set points and change oil & filters, then she met me..😂
Mrs TB knows how to change a wheel, but cant do the wheels on my car due to the weight of them, and having to line them up on the studs whilst fighting the weight.

I'll let her off, as I often struggle!
There used to be a tool in the Jag or Merc  tool kit previously (20+ years ago )
a bar about 9" long ,coated in the centre with grey plastic , you insert it through a wheel hole ,
pick the wheel up and insert the tool into a hub hole to align the holes
and it takes the weight while you insert a couple of wheel bolts

a bit like a Scaffolder's podger
.

Got a couple of them very useful when taking the caravan wheels off my 190e came with two complete tool kits when I bought it many years ago, and about 5 of those locators.
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: countrywoman on 21 August 2024, 13:45:30
Need to go to my local scrappy and see if I can find some Astra window lift bits that fit to the door windows so the Omega mechs will fit the Austin glass.
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Andy B on 21 August 2024, 14:02:18
.....
There used to be a tool in the Jag or Merc  tool kit previously (20+ years ago )
a bar about 9" long ,coated in the centre with grey plastic , you insert it through a wheel hole ,
pick the wheel up and insert the tool into a hub hole to align the holes
and it takes the weight while you insert a couple of wheel bolts

a bit like a Scaffolder's podger

There's one in the boot of my ML but as it lives under the spare wheel, it's easier to manage without it than it is to remove the spare to get it.
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: YZ250 on 21 August 2024, 14:31:41
There used to be a tool in the Jag or Merc  tool kit previously (20+ years ago )
a bar about 9" long ,coated in the centre with grey plastic , you insert it through a wheel hole ,
pick the wheel up and insert the tool into a hub hole to align the holes
and it takes the weight while you insert a couple of wheel bolts ......

The wheel alignment pin is still fitted in Audi toolkits.  :y  It's handy for both removal and refitting the wheel and as you say, it takes the weight of the wheel while you remove the last bolt and when you align it over the hub upon refitting. They're readily available to buy for any car.  :y
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: TheBoy on 21 August 2024, 18:44:31
JLR, in their wisdom, no longer include it. I suppose they just assume that a Jag owner will just leave it with a man to sort it...
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Kevin Wood on 22 August 2024, 07:42:08
JLR, in their wisdom, no longer include it. I suppose they just assume that a Jag owner will just leave it with a man to sort it...

Given that they CBA with a spare wheel on my XE, it wouldn't have been much use anyway.
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: TheBoy on 23 August 2024, 09:54:20
JLR, in their wisdom, no longer include it. I suppose they just assume that a Jag owner will just leave it with a man to sort it...

Given that they CBA with a spare wheel on my XE, it wouldn't have been much use anyway.
And I bet the gunk is out of date.  And nobody knows how to use it anyway, and just shove it in with the air, and wonders why it doesn't work, and....

...breath!


KW - loads of breakers tend to sell spare wheel kits (wheel, foam insert with jack/wrench etc), new boot floor and the longer standoff.  I paid around £140.  Well worth it IMHO.  Though I had to make a new standoff, as there appear to be 2 thread sizes, M6 and M8.  Bit of M8 rod, some nuts and a 3d printer solved that.
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 August 2024, 15:53:39
JLR, in their wisdom, no longer include it. I suppose they just assume that a Jag owner will just leave it with a man to sort it...

Given that they CBA with a spare wheel on my XE, it wouldn't have been much use anyway.
And I bet the gunk is out of date.  And nobody knows how to use it anyway, and just shove it in with the air, and wonders why it doesn't work, and....

...breath!


KW - loads of breakers tend to sell spare wheel kits (wheel, foam insert with jack/wrench etc), new boot floor and the longer standoff.  I paid around £140.  Well worth it IMHO.  Though I had to make a new standoff, as there appear to be 2 thread sizes, M6 and M8.  Bit of M8 rod, some nuts and a 3d printer solved that.

I have an extra full-size wheel in the garage, so could probably sort myself out if anything goes wrong relatively locally. Further afield, I'd probably have a boot full of junk, so not sure I'd be happy losing the boot space to it. :-\

I also have a set of puncture repair plugs that have sorted out the odd screw in a tyre before. Granted the only tyre failure I (well, mrs. KW) have had on the XE would have been a struggle to repair because the wheel dropped off the edge of a road with a non-existent verge and the inside sidewall basically ceased to exist. ::)

That was only really awkward because she was on the way to rescue me when the battery in the Westfield carked it so it was 2 simultaneous roadside callouts. >:(
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: TheBoy on 23 August 2024, 16:01:52
It lifts the back part of the boot so it is level with the front part - ie, there is no step in the boot floor.  So you don't lose much boot space unless you need that small area of extra height.

If you already have the wheel, a bit of plywood would do the floor - use mine as a template one curry night - and 3d print the tools insert, or attack some polystyrene with a knife...

And the area that stored the gunk stuff becomes free for other crap - jump leads, mini toolkit and the compressor from the gunk kit in our case ;D

We also fitted the side net kits on ours (both sides, even though the kit only fits the left without modification), though might be less useful to you as you probably have a bloody great amp there ;D.  Also, the Omega's floor net is a reasonable fit in the XE. And XJ.
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 August 2024, 16:06:49
Oh, my wheel; is a full size one, so I'd lose plenty of boot as it stands. :D

But it might be worth looking out for a space saver, I suppose.
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: cam.in.head on 25 August 2024, 16:49:55
and now just discovered " u pull it" in york.
wander freely at your leisure,all cars grouped by manufacturer .very large .
spent a few hours there thursday . feell like im young again !
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 25 August 2024, 19:43:57
and now just discovered " u pull it" in york.
wander freely at your leisure,all cars grouped by manufacturer .very large .
spent a few hours there thursday . feell like im young again !

Sounds like a DIY massage parlour!  ;D
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: grifter on 23 September 2024, 21:49:00
Saturday mornings were my scrappy day to see what I could fill my toolbox with stuff I could pay the scrap man for. One of the ones I used to go to my mate said his dad and friend used to go there, go up the back and lob everything they took off over the fence and get it outside after they'd finished!

My biggest misdemeanor in a scrappy was taking a dump in the back of a merc sprinter but there you go when nature call it calls!
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Stu.C on 24 September 2024, 10:35:49
1st Choice Car Spares in Accrington, as mentioned by @cam.in.head. Decent old-fashioned kinda place, but let down by the fella's total reluctance to make the stacked 2.6 Elite pickable and get some cash from it, versus wanting to sell me a different "good" engine, that had been extracted in the usual clinically sympathetic manner  ::)  Well, at least it was a nice sunny afternoon ...


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Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: cam.in.head on 24 September 2024, 10:48:06
deja  vu !!!!
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Andy B on 24 September 2024, 10:56:09
we still have this kind of yard at ''Pimhole'' in Bury where you can wander

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5906524,-2.2812229,3a,21.4y,144.41h,98.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC-p2sw6dh18-F3AjZZZZZw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?authuser=0&coh=205409&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkxOC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Rangie on 24 September 2024, 12:29:30
We had one local one which used to be quite good a few years back but most of the yard has been cleared of vehicles, there are now several stables on it and horses being looked after probably more money in that nowadays.
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: cam.in.head on 24 September 2024, 13:39:49
we still have this kind of yard at ''Pimhole'' in Bury where you can wander

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5906524,-2.2812229,3a,21.4y,144.41h,98.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC-p2sw6dh18-F3AjZZZZZw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?authuser=0&coh=205409&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkxOC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

wow . am i reading that wrong or is that one industrial estate full of multiple scrapyards ?
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: johnnydog on 24 September 2024, 16:07:54
1st Choice Car Spares in Accrington, as mentioned by @cam.in.head. Decent old-fashioned kinda place, but let down by the fella's total reluctance to make the stacked 2.6 Elite pickable and get some cash from it, versus wanting to sell me a different "good" engine, that had been extracted in the usual clinically sympathetic manner  ::)  Well, at least it was a nice sunny afternoon ...


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That Y reg Petrol Blue saloon is unfortunately only a 2.6 CD... it appears to have been well maintained over the years with many original GM parts. Corrosion on one inner rear wing appears to be possibly one reason why it ended up in there.
Chris (Cam in Head) and I have had all the decent stuff off it over the last few months. Had it actually been an Elite, then there would have been a lot more removed from it by now - believe me!!!
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Andy B on 24 September 2024, 18:59:44
we still have this kind of yard at ''Pimhole'' in Bury where you can wander

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5906524,-2.2812229,3a,21.4y,144.41h,98.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC-p2sw6dh18-F3AjZZZZZw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?authuser=0&coh=205409&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkxOC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

wow . am i reading that wrong or is that one industrial estate full of multiple scrapyards ?

You're reading it right ..... a whole host of scrap yards!  :y :y :y

there used to be one on the way down there where all parts were removed & on racking. In one respect it took the fun out of rumaging through cars for bit & pieces (full, untouched fuse/relay boxes) but it was handy if you were stuck for time .... you just asked for a part & they walked you to rack ? shelf? & there it was.
can't rememeber now why they were shut down!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: johnnydog on 24 September 2024, 23:28:16
In the mid 80's I found a very solid Triumph 2000 Mk2 in one of the yards down Pimhole Road, and I ended up buying the whole dash frame, and full set of immaculate doors off it for £6 each piece - just in case ::)...... and I still have all them today as I've never needed to replace any doors on my Triumphs ::).....although  they are worth far more than the £30 I paid for them back then I guess.
Again in the mid 80's, at the former yard at Altham that was later bought by 1st Choice, I found a solid Royal Blue Mk1 2000. As I had an identical one in that colour (I still have it today :D), I ended up buying the whole car for £80 which included them delivering it to my house (although they just dumped it on the drive much to the annoyance of my missus....). I took all the doors from it, the bonnet, boot, plenty of mechanicals and trim, and then they picked it up again when I'd finished and gave me £50 back for the rolling shell! Pity you cant buy whole cars in that way from breakers today, and you certainly don't get bargains like that anymore...especially as I also found a large King Dick adjustable spanner under the drivers seat which I still have! (no visible blood on it fortunately  :y)
The good old days of proper scrap yards......
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: cam.in.head on 25 September 2024, 12:33:52
sounds like an outing to pimhole is on the cards .!
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Raeturbo on 25 September 2024, 13:37:06
Better than going to the seaside👍🤣🤣
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: ronnyd on 25 September 2024, 15:37:28
Better than going to the seaside👍🤣🤣
Sell that to the wife and kids.  ;)
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: cam.in.head on 25 September 2024, 16:20:30
Better than going to the seaside👍🤣🤣

absolutely
although if it was "pimhole by the sea " it doesnt sound that inviting !
only problem with going to scrapyards now is that they rarely have anything in worth looking at . the altham one is good because its always had a few omegas in but that will surely slow down now.and nothing else older to my interest. but our lass is happy cos theres always plenty clit bits.
and then once you come hone you always think of other stuff you might need ! .  now thinking a selection of the quick release fuel pipe sections especially the steel pipe versions will come in usefull innthe future .
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Andy B on 26 September 2024, 21:35:26
sounds like an outing to pimhole is on the cards .!

 :y :y :y :y

Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: cam.in.head on 22 October 2024, 13:02:16
possibly pimhole this weekend
how many yards are there and do they still let you wander ?
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: Andy B on 23 October 2024, 08:31:37
possibly pimhole this weekend
how many yards are there and do they still let you wander ?

It's been a while since I last went but there were a good half dozen & they did let you wander.  :y
Title: Re: walk around scrapyards
Post by: cam.in.head on 23 October 2024, 09:44:00
cheers . looks like im going stereo hunting !