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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: JamesV6CDX on 31 October 2024, 16:45:00

Title: Car Tax Doubling?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 31 October 2024, 16:45:00
I've just spotted this, in the "budget". I cannot quite work out, does this doubling of car tax apply to older vehicles / all cars - or just new cars sold from now? Below pasted from gov UK website.

Many thanks  :y

5.86 VED First Year Rates – The government will change the VED First Year Rates
for new cars registered on or after 1 April 2025 to strengthen incentives to purchase
zero emission and electric cars, by widening the differentials between zero
emission, hybrid and internal combustion engine (ICE) cars.
• Zero emission cars will pay the lowest first year rate at £10 until 2029-30.
• Rates for cars emitting 1-50 g/km of CO2, including hybrid vehicles, will increase
to £110 for 2025-26.
• Rates for cars emitting 51-75 g/km of CO2, including hybrid vehicles, will
increase to £130 for 2025-26.
• All other rates for cars emitting 76 g/km of CO2
 and above will double from
their current level for 2025-26.
Autumn Budget 2024 133
These changes will apply from 1 April 2025
Title: Re: Car Tax Doubling?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 31 October 2024, 16:46:10
Although I'm thinking perhaps not:

5.85 2025-26 Vehicle Excise Duty rates for cars, vans and motorcycles – The
government will uprate standard Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) rates for cars, vans and
motorcycles, excluding first year rates for cars, in line with the RPI from 1 April 2025.
Title: Re: Car Tax Doubling?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 31 October 2024, 17:35:49
£1,350 a year is still significantly less than an overpriced, under built milk float. Even allowing for 20mpg.

Also, I thought the Year 1 rates were linked to purchase price, so any halfway decent mid range car gets whacked regardless of fuel.

More smoke and mirrors from people who can't add up.
Title: Re: Car Tax Doubling?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 01 November 2024, 16:10:42
I've just spotted this, in the "budget". I cannot quite work out, does this doubling of car tax apply to older vehicles / all cars - or just new cars sold from now? Below pasted from gov UK website.

Many thanks  :y

5.86 VED First Year Rates – The government will change the VED First Year Rates
for new cars registered on or after 1 April 2025 to strengthen incentives to purchase
zero emission and electric cars, by widening the differentials between zero
emission, hybrid and internal combustion engine (ICE) cars.
• Zero emission cars will pay the lowest first year rate at £10 until 2029-30.
• Rates for cars emitting 1-50 g/km of CO2, including hybrid vehicles, will increase
to £110 for 2025-26.
• Rates for cars emitting 51-75 g/km of CO2, including hybrid vehicles, will
increase to £130 for 2025-26.
• All other rates for cars emitting 76 g/km of CO2
 and above will double from
their current level for 2025-26.
Autumn Budget 2024 133
These changes will apply from 1 April 2025

I too cannot fully understand how the authorities calculate the emission levels and the effect on taxation on our cars.

All I know is my 2003, 3.2 Omega, amazingly,  does fall below the level the London ULEZ comes in, which means it is better than the EURO 4 stipulation, so attracts no charge.  It means that for my vehicle to be exempt from ULEZ charges, "your vehicle needs to produce less than 75g/km of Co2 emissions and be capable of covering no less than 20 miles on electricity alone".  Well it obviously means my car meets that, but it does not run for "20 miles on electricity alone", unless I use the starter motor!! ::) ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Car Tax Doubling?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 November 2024, 16:14:04
I've just spotted this, in the "budget". I cannot quite work out, does this doubling of car tax apply to older vehicles / all cars - or just new cars sold from now? Below pasted from gov UK website.

Many thanks  :y

5.86 VED First Year Rates – The government will change the VED First Year Rates
for new cars registered on or after 1 April 2025 to strengthen incentives to purchase
zero emission and electric cars, by widening the differentials between zero
emission, hybrid and internal combustion engine (ICE) cars.
• Zero emission cars will pay the lowest first year rate at £10 until 2029-30.
• Rates for cars emitting 1-50 g/km of CO2, including hybrid vehicles, will increase
to £110 for 2025-26.
• Rates for cars emitting 51-75 g/km of CO2, including hybrid vehicles, will
increase to £130 for 2025-26.
• All other rates for cars emitting 76 g/km of CO2
 and above will double from
their current level for 2025-26.
Autumn Budget 2024 133
These changes will apply from 1 April 2025

I too cannot fully understand how the authorities calculate the emission levels and the effect on taxation on our cars.

All I know is my 2003, 3.2 Omega, amazingly,  does fall below the level the London ULEZ comes in, which means it is better than the EURO 4 stipulation, so attracts no charge.  It means that for my vehicle to be exempt from ULEZ charges, "your vehicle needs to produce less than 75g/km of Co2 emissions and be capable of covering no less than 20 miles on electricity alone".  Well it obviously means my car meets that, but it does not run for "20 miles on electricity alone", unless I use the starter motor!! ::) ::) ;D ;D

My 3.2 is exempt from ULEZ too, but the documents / info online all says it pushes out 284g/km of Co2  ::) I don't get it at all.

Title: Re: Car Tax Doubling?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 01 November 2024, 16:59:24
I've just spotted this, in the "budget". I cannot quite work out, does this doubling of car tax apply to older vehicles / all cars - or just new cars sold from now? Below pasted from gov UK website.

Many thanks  :y

5.86 VED First Year Rates – The government will change the VED First Year Rates
for new cars registered on or after 1 April 2025 to strengthen incentives to purchase
zero emission and electric cars, by widening the differentials between zero
emission, hybrid and internal combustion engine (ICE) cars.
• Zero emission cars will pay the lowest first year rate at £10 until 2029-30.
• Rates for cars emitting 1-50 g/km of CO2, including hybrid vehicles, will increase
to £110 for 2025-26.
• Rates for cars emitting 51-75 g/km of CO2, including hybrid vehicles, will
increase to £130 for 2025-26.
• All other rates for cars emitting 76 g/km of CO2
 and above will double from
their current level for 2025-26.
Autumn Budget 2024 133
These changes will apply from 1 April 2025

I too cannot fully understand how the authorities calculate the emission levels and the effect on taxation on our cars.

All I know is my 2003, 3.2 Omega, amazingly,  does fall below the level the London ULEZ comes in, which means it is better than the EURO 4 stipulation, so attracts no charge.  It means that for my vehicle to be exempt from ULEZ charges, "your vehicle needs to produce less than 75g/km of Co2 emissions and be capable of covering no less than 20 miles on electricity alone".  Well it obviously means my car meets that, but it does not run for "20 miles on electricity alone", unless I use the starter motor!! ::) ::) ;D ;D

My 3.2 is exempt from ULEZ too, but the documents / info online all says it pushes out 284g/km of Co2  ::) I don't get it at all.

Yep, join the queue James!  Is it, strangely, that it is down to the (old) age of our Omega's?  Certainly, online, the info is that "most cars built since 2006 will be exempt", but maybe our cars were built thinking of future emissions or perhaps it is the fact that the Omega is getting on for being 25 years old, owned by "poor" people like ourselves, so given special dispensation, like "old" cars being exempt from road tax? ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Car Tax Doubling?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 02 November 2024, 13:05:23
Still got my Omega under wraps.
It needs a wheel bearing changing and will definitely need some welding doing.
Was looking at rebuilding it next year but seriously worried it will be uneconomical to run.
See what it costs to tax and insure next spring I suppose  :'(

Ps, don't buy a Honda ............. there shite  :-X