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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 November 2024, 11:59:03
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From Autocar this week.
The 34 million cars on the roads of Britain are distributed thus......
Less than 3 years old........14.4%
3-6 years old....................17.1%
7-9 years old....................20.7%
10-12 years old................17.1%
More than 12 years old......30.7%.... :o :o :o
I very much doubt there would have been so many old cars on the roads in the sixties and seventies, because your average Austin 1100/Ford Anglia/Cortina...etc..etc was probably 'cubed' well before 10 years old.
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I/we have 3 in the 10 - 12 yr & 1 in the over 12 yr old class :y :y
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When I started driving in 1978 most cars over 5 years old had plenty of visible rust holes and if the car had done more then 70,000 miles you would expect the engine to be nearing the end of its life.
If a car had anywhere near 100,000 on the clock you couldnt give it away.
My current cars -
Boxster - 24 years old and 98000 miles.
Omega - 22 years old and 199,800 miles
C1 - 17 years old and 93000 miles.
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You see loads or pre 62 plate cars still, so surprised its only 30%
Or do I just hang around poor areas ;D
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I've only got the Vectra. i'ts on 127,000 and just passed the MOT.
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When I started driving in 1978 most cars over 5 years old had plenty of visible rust holes and if the car had done more then 70,000 miles you would expect the engine to be nearing the end of its life.
If a car had anywhere near 100,000 on the clock you couldnt give it away.
My current cars -
Boxster - 24 years old and 98000 miles.
Omega - 22 years old and 199,800 miles
C1 - 17 years old and 93000 miles.
Zackly.
The build quality was utter shite in the seventies.
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My Mondeo is 16 years old with 171,000 miles and the recently departed V70 was 20 years old with 190,000ish on the clock. :)
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One less than 3yrs old (10k), one 10-12 (95k), one 12+ (79k).
None of them feel close to end of life. Then again, all have relatively low miles
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3 Omegas ::)
1999 65K
1999 105K
2003 58K :y
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One 17 years old RRS 113,000 miles
One 2 years old Yaris Cross 12,000 miles
One 4 months old (in Spain) Fiat 500 Abarth 1250 miles
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Here we go...
2002 3.2 Elite sal - 74k
2003 3.2 Elite est - 62k
2003 3.2 Elite sal - 159k
2015 Audi RS4 - 19k
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Endurance - 40k
1967 Triumph 2000 Mk1 - 34k
1969 Triumph 2000 Mk1 - 85k
1970 Triumph 2000 Mk2 - 58k
1972 Triumph 2.5PI Mk2 - 70k
1973 Triumph 2.5PI Mk2 - 44k
1976 Triumph 2500S - 64k
2017 Honda Ex 1.6 160 - 58k (wife's!)
I daren't start on the ones that aren't mobile.... ;D
Oh, a 2011 Honda CRV (LHD - in Bulgaria!) - 210km :y
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2024 Range Rover Sport - 3500 miles (and needs a new screen :-X)
2023 Range Rover Evoque - 11,000 miles (and being replaced next week)
2018 F-type - 9000 miles
2017 Vx Adam - 65,000 miles
1959 Fordson Dexta Tractor - god knows!
!957/9 108 DMU - Intergalactic I suspect
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17 month old M240i.
17 years old classic Vauxhall Signum 2.8 V6.
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I've only got the Vectra. i'ts on 127,000 and just passed the MOT.
As a kid you would see 'for sale' adverts along the lines of.....
Jaguar XJ6 4.2 only 42000 miles from new and just been rebored.
Options include a radio, reclining seats, and a heated rear window. ;D
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74 viva hc1256
76cav sal 2.2
78cav hatch2.0
86carlton 2.2
and in the nearly new category 2003 omega 2.6cdx
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My Dad had a 5 year old HC Viva with a bloody great rust hole at the bottom of the windscreen. The rest of the car was immaculate.
When the MK1 Cavalier appeared he fell in love with them and bought three in succession, All GL spec for some reason.
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Here we go...
2002 3.2 Elite sal - 74k
2003 3.2 Elite est - 62k
2003 3.2 Elite sal - 159k
2015 Audi RS4 - 19k
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Endurance - 40k
1967 Triumph 2000 Mk1 - 34k
1969 Triumph 2000 Mk1 - 85k
1970 Triumph 2000 Mk2 - 58k
1972 Triumph 2.5PI Mk2 - 70k
1973 Triumph 2.5PI Mk2 - 44k
1976 Triumph 2500S - 64k
2017 Honda Ex 1.6 160 - 58k (wife's!)
I daren't start on the ones that aren't mobile.... ;D
Oh, a 2011 Honda CRV (LHD - in Bulgaria!) - 210km :y
These please. :y
My 2500S was also of 1976 (P) vintage in bright yellow. Mimosa, I think.
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74 viva hc1256
76cav sal 2.2
78cav hatch2.0
86carlton 2.2
and in the nearly new category 2003 omega 2.6cdx
Or, "emits blue smoke under acceleration, but still drives ok". ;D
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Here we go...
2002 3.2 Elite sal - 74k
2003 3.2 Elite est - 62k
2003 3.2 Elite sal - 159k
2015 Audi RS4 - 19k
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Endurance - 40k
1967 Triumph 2000 Mk1 - 34k
1969 Triumph 2000 Mk1 - 85k
1970 Triumph 2000 Mk2 - 58k
1972 Triumph 2.5PI Mk2 - 70k
1973 Triumph 2.5PI Mk2 - 44k
1976 Triumph 2500S - 64k
2017 Honda Ex 1.6 160 - 58k (wife's!)
I daren't start on the ones that aren't mobile.... ;D
Oh, a 2011 Honda CRV (LHD - in Bulgaria!) - 210km :y
These please. :y
My 2500S was also of 1976 (P) vintage in bright yellow. Mimosa, I think.
Of all these, the Omegas, the RS4 and three of the 6 Triumphs are my favourites (the 1969 Mk1 2000, the 1973 2.5PI and the 2500S). The S is Carmine Red (bit like Vauxhalls Mexico Red) - your S Opti I'm certain will have been Inca Yellow - Mimosa Yellow was only availble on the Stag, Dolomite and a few other models, not the 2000 range.
My wife hates the RS4 (says its uncomfortable - even in ' its comfort' setting) and the Omegas (they big and heavy - old men's cars :(), and tolerates the Triumph (they 'smell' like old cars :o), but enjoys the Honda and the Santa Fe.
No accounting for taste is there?
Although some of the other Triumph are in better nick than my favourites, I can't really describe why these remain firm favourites, but they are all just a sheer pleasure to drive!
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My Touareg 20 years old now 187k on the dial, V70 15years old showing 226 k !
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11 plate Skoda Yeti 148K , 67 built 68 model year VW panel van , god knows how many miles as original style speedo missing when I got it 25 years ago. 51 Austin 10cwt Countryman with Omega running gear 80k something on the Omega speedo.
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V70 25yrs old this coming January 156,000 miles
Omega 25yrs old this coming March 135,000 miles.
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One 18 years old, one 19.
Surprisingly, the older one is the Bini both in years and miles :o
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I've been trying to ditch my astra because I think it's cracking on. But at 8 years old and 80,000 miles it's a mere nipper compared to most on here.
Wifey's is 3 years old, 14,000 miles.
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74 viva hc1256
76cav sal 2.2
78cav hatch2.0
86carlton 2.2
and in the nearly new category 2003 omega 2.6cdx
Or, "emits blue smoke under acceleration, but still drives ok". ;D
? none of mine do !
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Astra J estate, 2012
Poo go horsebox, 2012
Vivaro bus, 2012
Monaro, 2004
Carlton Estate 1985
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74 viva hc1256
76cav sal 2.2
78cav hatch2.0
86carlton 2.2
and in the nearly new category 2003 omega 2.6cdx
Or, "emits blue smoke under acceleration, but still drives ok". ;D
? none of mine do !
Was just remembering it as something you would see in car adverts in the 70,s. ;)
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2024 Range Rover Sport - 3500 miles (and needs a new screen :-X)
2023 Range Rover Evoque - 11,000 miles (and being replaced next week)
2018 F-type - 9000 miles
2017 Vx Adam - 65,000 miles
1959 Fordson Dexta Tractor - god knows!
!957/9 108 DMU - Intergalactic I suspect
Tell me you still have the dumper. I will be cross if you got shot of that!
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a 14 year old and a 8 year old pair of Jaaaaaggggs. Both easily the wrong side of 100k. In fact, I think both were easily the wrong side of 100k when we got them 8/2 years ago ;D
(Can't give mileages, as I've put the phone "somewhere safe", and CBA to walk out to them)
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Here we go...
2002 3.2 Elite sal - 74k
2003 3.2 Elite est - 62k
2003 3.2 Elite sal - 159k
2015 Audi RS4 - 19k
2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Endurance - 40k
1967 Triumph 2000 Mk1 - 34k
1969 Triumph 2000 Mk1 - 85k
1970 Triumph 2000 Mk2 - 58k
1972 Triumph 2.5PI Mk2 - 70k
1973 Triumph 2.5PI Mk2 - 44k
1976 Triumph 2500S - 64k
2017 Honda Ex 1.6 160 - 58k (wife's!)
I daren't start on the ones that aren't mobile.... ;D
Oh, a 2011 Honda CRV (LHD - in Bulgaria!) - 210km :y
These please. :y
My 2500S was also of 1976 (P) vintage in bright yellow. Mimosa, I think.
Of all these, the Omegas, the RS4 and three of the 6 Triumphs are my favourites (the 1969 Mk1 2000, the 1973 2.5PI and the 2500S). The S is Carmine Red (bit like Vauxhalls Mexico Red) - your S Opti I'm certain will have been Inca Yellow - Mimosa Yellow was only availble on the Stag, Dolomite and a few other models, not the 2000 range.
My wife hates the RS4 (says its uncomfortable - even in ' its comfort' setting) and the Omegas (they big and heavy - old men's cars :(), and tolerates the Triumph (they 'smell' like old cars :o), but enjoys the Honda and the Santa Fe.
No accounting for taste is there?
Although some of the other Triumph are in better nick than my favourites, I can't really describe why these remain firm favourites, but they are all just a sheer pleasure to drive!
I'm sure you are correct JD.....all I can now remember is she was 'bright yellow' and had Stag wheels as standard.... :y
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Just one of the many 'anorak' details about Triumphs in my head after 44 years of owning them...!! ;D
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pretty much the same as me regarding vivas . got my first experience changing an engine in 1982 in a 72 hc ( which was already badly rotten at 10yr old)
and then began learning about cars from that day on !
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pretty much the same as me regarding vivas . got my first experience changing an engine in 1982 in a 72 hc ( which was already badly rotten at 10yr old)
and then began learning about cars from that day on !
Sounds about right.
My first car was 9 years old I owned it. There was a little bit of steel left but it comprised mainly of Isopon, wire mesh, cardboard, and newspaper. Some of which was 5 years old itself. ;D
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Everyone was an expert at hammering baby milk tins flat to make a new floor.
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My first car was an Austin A40 the original floor had been replaced with an Hillman Imp bonnet, bought for £30 & sold a few months later for £30 and then bought a 1964 PB Vauxhall Velox for £160.
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Everyone was an expert at hammering baby milk tins flat to make a new floor.
My mates obviously had more money than me, as they still take the piss out of me for repairing a hole in my Renault 5 using a side of a big ice cream box and filler. ::)
Couple of rattle cans of paint from Halfords and it wasn't a bad job for a first time effort. :y No YouTube in those days either! ;)
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My first car was an Austin A40 the original floor had been replaced with an Hillman Imp bonnet, bought for £30 & sold a few months later for £30 and then bought a 1964 PB Vauxhall Velox for £160.
That brings back so many memories Rangie! ;D ;D
I too had a Farina bodied A40 in 1970, that was then 10 years old. Paid £30 for it as well, kept it for two years until I got my first fully costed company car, but during that time sold the number plate for £30 and then eventually sent the car for scrap.
When I first went to change a wheel and jacked up the car, the chassis stayed on the ground, and the body went up in the air!! The cross members under the passenger seat had completely rotted away, and the sills, both sides, were stuffed with newspapers and fillers! :o :o :o That lovely car though still sailed through two MOT's, via a friendly garage tester who just lightly tapped the chassis with a tiny hammer, and I went miles in her! 8) 8) I still wish I kept that A40.
So simple to work on, with the help of training by a retiring chief mechanic for the GPO (they looked after all those green Austin and Morris vans around London) uncle, and evening classes. This taught me to strip down an A series engine to pure parts, nuts and bolts, then after replacing and resealing the valves, reassemble for it to last two years more. 8) 8)
Oh, the memories, including a slipping clutch in its last days, that meant in strong head winds the car could not do more than 30mph, almost going backwards!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Now I have a 21 year old Omega that is in a far, far, better condition than that ten year old A40, which had the sill challenges, holes in the front wings, and a worn interior, with no modern electrics, like a radio even!! It certainly highlights the point made in this thread that the cars of yesterday generally became rust buckets in a very short time is so true.
Indeed the quality of finish when new was sometimes appalling. Like my second company Ford Escort Mk1 which had a serious patch of missing paint on the top of a front wing. Then a following brand new Ford Cortina Mk4 estate which had the prop shaft held on by just one bolt, which led to loud knocking as I travelled at 60 mph! The garage had to admit it had left the Dagenham Ford Plant in that condition, and no inspection since had spotted it! ::) ::) ::)
Yes, standards yesteryear with British cars, especially in the 1960's, 70's and into the 80's were terrible.
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Everyone was an expert at hammering baby milk tins flat to make a new floor.
I've never done rust repairs without welding. Some of that is because the previously installed tins had rusted through.
The Mini we reshelled my sister's car into turned out to have floor pans made out underseal tins. I only discovered that when trying to weld in extra seat crossmembers for the Capri seats.
My Superminx repairs became I much bigger job when the chisel started bouncing on the structural white silicone ::)
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My first car was an Austin A40 the original floor had been replaced with an Hillman Imp bonnet, bought for £30 & sold a few months later for £30 and then bought a 1964 PB Vauxhall Velox for £160.
That brings back so many memories Rangie! ;D ;D
I too had a Farina bodied A40 in 1970, that was then 10 years old. Paid £30 for it as well, kept it for two years until I got my first fully costed company car, but during that time sold the number plate for £30 and then eventually sent the car for scrap.
When I first went to change a wheel and jacked up the car, the chassis stayed on the ground, and the body went up in the air!! The cross members under the passenger seat had completely rotted away, and the sills, both sides, were stuffed with newspapers and fillers! :o :o :o That lovely car though still sailed through two MOT's, via a friendly garage tester who just lightly tapped the chassis with a tiny hammer, and I went miles in her! 8) 8) I still wish I kept that A40.
So simple to work on, with the help of training by a retiring chief mechanic for the GPO (they looked after all those green Austin and Morris vans around London) uncle, and evening classes. This taught me to strip down an A series engine to pure parts, nuts and bolts, then after replacing and resealing the valves, reassemble for it to last two years more. 8) 8)
Oh, the memories, including a slipping clutch in its last days, that meant in strong head winds the car could not do more than 30mph, almost going backwards!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Now I have a 21 year old Omega that is in a far, far, better condition than that ten year old A40, which had the sill challenges, holes in the front wings, and a worn interior, with no modern electrics, like a radio even!! It certainly highlights the point made in this thread that the cars of yesterday generally became rust buckets in a very short time is so true.
Indeed the quality of finish when new was sometimes appalling. Like my second company Ford Escort Mk1 which had a serious patch of missing paint on the top of a front wing. Then a following brand new Ford Cortina Mk4 estate which had the prop shaft held on by just one bolt, which led to loud knocking as I travelled at 60 mph! The garage had to admit it had left the Dagenham Ford Plant in that condition, and no inspection since had spotted it! ::) ::) ::)
Yes, standards yesteryear with British cars, especially in the 1960's, 70's and into the 80's were terrible.
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Wish I'd kept the number that was on the A40 (5016VW) could have been worth a few quid now had mine in 1971, the PB Vauxhall was a 1964 model (CLF410B) lovely car .
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My first car was an Austin A40 the original floor had been replaced with an Hillman Imp bonnet, bought for £30 & sold a few months later for £30 and then bought a 1964 PB Vauxhall Velox for £160.
That brings back so many memories Rangie! ;D ;D
I too had a Farina bodied A40 in 1970, that was then 10 years old. Paid £30 for it as well, kept it for two years until I got my first fully costed company car, but during that time sold the number plate for £30 and then eventually sent the car for scrap.
When I first went to change a wheel and jacked up the car, the chassis stayed on the ground, and the body went up in the air!! The cross members under the passenger seat had completely rotted away, and the sills, both sides, were stuffed with newspapers and fillers! :o :o :o That lovely car though still sailed through two MOT's, via a friendly garage tester who just lightly tapped the chassis with a tiny hammer, and I went miles in her! 8) 8) I still wish I kept that A40.
So simple to work on, with the help of training by a retiring chief mechanic for the GPO (they looked after all those green Austin and Morris vans around London) uncle, and evening classes. This taught me to strip down an A series engine to pure parts, nuts and bolts, then after replacing and resealing the valves, reassemble for it to last two years more. 8) 8)
Oh, the memories, including a slipping clutch in its last days, that meant in strong head winds the car could not do more than 30mph, almost going backwards!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Now I have a 21 year old Omega that is in a far, far, better condition than that ten year old A40, which had the sill challenges, holes in the front wings, and a worn interior, with no modern electrics, like a radio even!! It certainly highlights the point made in this thread that the cars of yesterday generally became rust buckets in a very short time is so true.
Indeed the quality of finish when new was sometimes appalling. Like my second company Ford Escort Mk1 which had a serious patch of missing paint on the top of a front wing. Then a following brand new Ford Cortina Mk4 estate which had the prop shaft held on by just one bolt, which led to loud knocking as I travelled at 60 mph! The garage had to admit it had left the Dagenham Ford Plant in that condition, and no inspection since had spotted it! ::) ::) ::)
Yes, standards yesteryear with British cars, especially in the 1960's, 70's and into the 80's were terrible.
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Wish I'd kept the number that was on the A40 (5016VW) could have been worth a few quid now had mine in 1971, the PB Vauxhall was a 1964 model (CLF410B) lovely car .
Indeed. Mine was 1721 JW, and was on a vehicle up to a few years ago, but now is not registered for some reason. :(
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this is what i meant about older cars rusting badly and after repairing many of them over the years and like you said not very old either and needing sills , floor repairs etc . thats why doing rust repairs on anything post 1990 is a breeze !
modern cars die now with electrical issues over rust .
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I've got
2014 Vivaro van 136k
2013 Insignificant elite 85k
2006 Nissan Micra 112k
2010 Fiesta 111k
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2013 Mercedes C180 Estate - Daily runabout - 40MPG
2001 Vauxhall Omega Elite 3.0 - Dead and will probably go to the scrappy next summer - 30MPG
1990 Vauxhall Carlton - Sunday car - 20MPG.
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1989 Opel Corsa A(Vx Nova) 1.2S(with 1.3 engine)
2001 Opel Astra G 1.4 16v caravan (is going to the scrapyard :-[)
1998 Opel Omega B 2.5TD
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