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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Migalot on 19 November 2024, 22:56:37
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Oh, Lord.
Jaguar goes woke! >:(
https://youtu.be/TQ1XSE8QRhE?si=KV6wWp8cSefkHxF0 (https://youtu.be/TQ1XSE8QRhE?si=KV6wWp8cSefkHxF0)
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Its quite embarrassing :-[
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Here’s the 30 second version from Jaguar if you don’t want all of the talking etc. :y
https://youtu.be/rLtFIrqhfng?si=oecgd40c2iKi8RzI
It’s getting a lot of attention across the globe but for all the wrong reasons. :( It’s a mystery to me why large companies feel the need to pander to the minority, but pander they do.
Sad for the hard working employees really, as when an automotive company allow themselves to go down the pan, it’s not just that company that suffers. They cripple their suppliers of component parts as well, so it’s thousands of jobs at risk. :(
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As Jaguar has been on life support for years, they've decided they need the symbolism** of a bloke in a dress switching off the machines.
Next is Land Rover, whose entire business strategy will be aimed*** at the vegan, coeliac, gay, paraplegic dairy farmers. All two of them. In the world.
** ask your nearest art-college dropout for an explanation. Good luck finding one capable of managing a coherent sentence. The local art college closed last year, so a combination of cheap drugs might be a more realistic substitute.
*** If it isn't already.
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Jaguar is having it's own bud light episode. ;D
It looks like the big cat company wants to deter.....
Traditional cads and bounders who love a Jag. :y
Hetrosexual men........but not metrosexual fairies.
Anyone over the age of about 35.....who are generally the people who can afford a new Jaaaag.
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https://youtu.be/rLtFIrqhfng?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/rLtFIrqhfng?feature=shared)
With music such as it is.
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Here’s the 30 second version from Jaguar if you don’t want all of the talking etc. :y
https://youtu.be/rLtFIrqhfng?si=oecgd40c2iKi8RzI
It’s getting a lot of attention across the globe but for all the wrong reasons. :( It’s a mystery to me why large companies feel the need to pander to the minority, but pander they do.
Sad for the hard working employees really, as when an automotive company allow themselves to go down the pan, it’s not just that company that suffers. They cripple their suppliers of component parts as well, so it’s thousands of jobs at risk. :(
In the comments: "Is Jaguar selling gay teletubbies now?"
And "The only thing brave about this is leaving the comments on" ;D
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https://youtu.be/rLtFIrqhfng?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/rLtFIrqhfng?feature=shared)
With music such as it is.
Something by Anthrax might have been more appropriate.
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The new logo is, errrrr, shite ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/8Xd0hRT/IMG-0636.png) (https://ibb.co/CWMzrXN)
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Don't know, or particularly care, if it's fake, but saw this as a humourous exercise in dealing with the wokists...
https://youtu.be/AkLovJ6vZes?si=GwrPSjnu7g2isRhX
It's the sort of thing that someone would film.and.then post to try and demonstrate some sort of harddonebyness :D
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One of my neighbours has a stunning Mk 2 3.8 Jaguar which his mother bought new in 1963 he inherited it when she passed away a few years back since then he has spent several thousand pounds on it, the most recent expenditure having the auto box completely re built in my eyes it's the perfect classic.I have a picture somewhere hopefully to follow.
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One of my neighbours has a stunning Mk 2 3.4 Jaguar which his mother bought new in 1965 he inherited it when she passed away a few years back since then he has spent several thousand pounds on it, the most recent expenditure having the auto box completely re built in my eyes it's the perfect classic.
Is he going to fit that wonderful new badge onto it? ;)
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One of my neighbours has a stunning Mk 2 3.4 Jaguar which his mother bought new in 1965 he inherited it when she passed away a few years back since then he has spent several thousand pounds on it, the most recent expenditure having the auto box completely re built in my eyes it's the perfect classic.I have a picture somewhere hopefully to follow.
The old MK2 'bank robber Jags' do have a certain charm.
There was not much plod owned that could catch a well driven 3.8 Mk2 back in the early sixties. :y
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Don't know, or particularly care, if it's fake, but saw this as a humourous exercise in dealing with the wokists...
https://youtu.be/AkLovJ6vZes?si=GwrPSjnu7g2isRhX
It's the sort of thing that someone would film.and.then post to try and demonstrate some sort of harddonebyness :D
;D ;D
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The thing I find amazing is that their sister company have done so well at keeping hold of the right bits of their heritage while moving the brand forward and making them hugely desirable in the modern world.
Why jaguar couldn't pull off the same trick is beyond me, but almost anything would be better than this ar$e gravy. I hope whoever signed off on the campaign has the decency to resign, but somehow I doubt it. ::)
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Better advertising days.... https://youtu.be/iD9XNUYHCNQ?si=bJJFnpgo3WGttHKG
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What is upsetting is that the new X900 is a pretty impressive bit of kit and full of the original Jag DNA.......lots of discussions at work, none positive. :-[
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This woke advert will appeal to the LGBT....QRSTUVWXYZ1000gendersnonbinarywomencanalsohaveapenis community. ::)
Trouble is most of this 'community don't like cars, even electric cars, and therefore will not be interested in the new 'progressive' Jaguar marque.
Vegan food rules. ::)
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What a mess everything is in. Everyone is either nuts, angry or both. Feels like we're heading towards a big bang.
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The new logo is, errrrr, shite ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/8Xd0hRT/IMG-0636.png) (https://ibb.co/CWMzrXN)
That logo looks like it belongs on a cheap French handbag, rather than an iconic British motoring marque. ::) ;D
I wonder how much jaGUar paid the ad agency for that shite and the awful irrelevant advert? :-\
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That logo looks like it belongs on a cheap French handbag, rather than an iconic British motoring marque. ::) ;D
I wonder how much jaGUar paid the ad agency for that shite and the awful irrelevant advert? :-\
I thought exactly the same!
The ad looks like they took a bunch of college students and gave them a grand to shoot a perfume advert for Christmas and design a logo for TKMaxx's new range of Goochee hand bags ::)
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One of my neighbours has a stunning Mk 2 3.8 Jaguar which his mother bought new in 1963 he inherited it when she passed away a few years back since then he has spent several thousand pounds on it, the most recent expenditure having the auto box completely re built in my eyes it's the perfect classic.I have a picture somewhere hopefully to follow.
(https://i.ibb.co/WFRnB4z/IMG-0638.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0ZzqYR9)
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I would love to own that Jaguar of my neighbours, he also has a beautiful XJS convertible which apparently belonged to one of the members of the Who previously.
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I would love to own that Jaguar of my neighbours, he also has a beautiful XJS convertible which apparently belonged to one of the members of the Who previously.
Is that car an original 'A' reg from 1963?
Very few of those, I imagine.
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Beautiful! I'm not a fan of the white walls, but that is absolute nit picking :y Also, getting geeky, I prefer the more delicate bumpers on the later 240/340 cars (the one that Morse actually drove I think :-\) but then you lose the gorgeous 3.8 straight six, wire wheels and you get a less upmarket interior - decisions decisions ;D.
That one's also got an aftermarket webasto roof - not a common mod!
Gorgeous thing! I've lusted after one to accompany my dad's e-type. Not managed to get there yet however!
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I would love to own that Jaguar of my neighbours, he also has a beautiful XJS convertible which apparently belonged to one of the members of the Who previously.
Is that car an original 'A' reg from 1963?
Very few of those, I imagine.
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Yes it is a 1963 originally bought new by his mother,last year all new leather was fitted exactly to original spec & as I said previously the auto box was rebuilt earlier this year by a specialist in Suffolk, he has an agreed valuation on it for £38,000 but is limited to 2000 miles per year , SWMBOS old faithful Subaru can be seen in the background, it now resides in Devon with her cousin.🚗🚗🚗
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Beautiful! I'm not a fan of the white walls, but that is absolute nit picking :y Also, getting geeky, I prefer the more delicate bumpers on the later 240/340 cars (the one that Morse actually drove I think :-\) but then you lose the gorgeous 3.8 straight six, wire wheels and you get a less upmarket interior - decisions decisions ;D.
That one's also got an aftermarket webasto roof - not a common mod!
Gorgeous thing! I've lusted after one to accompany my dad's e-type. Not managed to get there yet however!
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The E Type & the MK2 are the only "proper" Jags in my opinion but that's probably an age thing , my father had a very early 2.4 Jaguar when I was about 11 in black with red leather , a beautiful car the first car I ever travelled in at 100 mph.
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I would love to own that Jaguar of my neighbours, he also has a beautiful XJS convertible which apparently belonged to one of the members of the Who previously.
Is that car an original 'A' reg from 1963?
Very few of those, I imagine.
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I believe that it originally started out as a 2.4 Jaguar which seemed very underpowered to his mother & a new 3.8 engine took its place around 1968/9, I never met her but she sounds like a real petrolhead also had a couple of mini coopers which are awaiting restoration.
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My Dad had a MK2 Jag back in the day when he first met my Mum and he wouldn't let her drive it. ::)
She was miffed about that to her dying day! ;D
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There has been a briefing scheduled for 4pm today to discuss what is happening with the employees ???
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Last one out turn off the lights.
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Last one out turn off the lights.
Stupid comment, as clearly that is not the case, Jaguar is a brand under JLR so even if it was to stop, it never made any money anyway so no impact to the main business
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There has been a briefing scheduled for 4pm today to discuss what is happening with the employees ???
I genuinely hope that it turns out ok for you and the company Mark. I worked for a vehicle manufacturer for just over 40 years and we had some scary times where our plant was going to close in favour of keeping our sister plant open, then we were going to be taken over several times etc. At the time I had young children and a mortgage, like many other employees, and it was a genuine worry.
As I’ve said before, I feel sorry for vehicle manufacturers being put in the impossible position of being forced to produce EV’s, when only a handful of people actually want one. I still have family working for the same company that I worked at and I worry how it’s going to end up. :-\
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The E Type & the MK2 are the only "proper" Jags in my opinion but ....
what about the MKX/420G or the XK120/140/150 ;) do they not count? ;D or even the earlier slim line XJ6s
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The E Type & the MK2 are the only "proper" Jags in my opinion but ....
what about the MKX/420G or the XK120/140/150 ;) do they not count? ;D or even the earlier slim line XJ6s
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You have your favourites & I have mine can't all be the same 👍
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What is upsetting is that the new X900 is a pretty impressive bit of kit and full of the original Jag DNA.......lots of discussions at work, none positive. :-[
Is that the EV one? As I understand it, that's not going to be sold in the UK?
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ALDI trolls jaGUar! ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/qqwKZ0J6/ALDI-troll-Jag.png)
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;D ;D Love it
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There has been a briefing scheduled for 4pm today to discuss what is happening with the employees ???
Hope all is well Mark, been on a similar situation recently (fortunately turned out ok) so I know it's no kind of fun.
On a lighter note, given their comments about who worked on the advert - I would hope they have a short list of around 800 names to work with ::)
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There has been a briefing scheduled for 4pm today to discuss what is happening with the employees ???
Sorry, Mark, missed this comment. I sincerely hope that everything is okay for you personally. I also hope that, whatever they have in store, they spell it out honestly. Folk can do without management bullshit at a time like this. Good luck, mate.
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I would imagine that any offers that are made will be subject to a NDA
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But you can tell us, we won't say anything :-X
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No job concerns, it was purely to explain the marketing strategy, turns out the initial bit was to create shock and get people talking ;D
It certainly did that!
I have seen a red version of the new model and its a pretty impressive beast, not at all like the advert so far
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What is upsetting is that the new X900 is a pretty impressive bit of kit and full of the original Jag DNA.......lots of discussions at work, none positive. :-[
Is that the EV one? As I understand it, that's not going to be sold in the UK?
Well, I am having my products certified for use in the UK.......I do know that the US is seen as a major market (hence the Miami reveal there)
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The E Type & the MK2 are the only "proper" Jags in my opinion but ....
what about the MKX/420G or the XK120/140/150 ;) do they not count? ;D or even the earlier slim line XJ6s
Pretty sure the Kray twins owned one......or at least they did in the film.
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My first boss had a gold coloured Mk 10 Jaguar nice car but too big & bulky for my liking.
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My first boss had a gold coloured Mk 10 Jaguar nice car but too big & bulky for my liking.
.....I think jaguar were hoping it would sell well in America where the average car was the size of Kent in the sixties and seventies.
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My first boss had a gold coloured Mk 10 Jaguar nice car but too big & bulky for my liking.
.....I think jaguar were hoping it would sell well in America where the average car was the size of Kent in the sixties and seventies.
They always seem huge to me, but probably the size of a current Astra estate :-\
Personally I always felt Jag were/are at their best when they mix luxury with a bit of sporting prowess. Like you could do a runner from knocking over a post office, but in great comfort. ;D
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No job concerns, it was purely to explain the marketing strategy, turns out the initial bit was to create shock and get people talking ;D
It certainly did that!
I have seen a red version of the new model and its a pretty impressive beast, not at all like the advert so far
Quite a few online comments hoping that Jaguar would reveal another advert at a later date stating "Only joking with the woke shite, this is our new fire breathing, tyre shredding line up". :y
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Well second release of the car has a four figure bhp figure.... :-X
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Well second release of the car has a four figure bhp figure.... :-X
That'll scare the living shit out of a SJW with pronouns. >:D
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My first boss had a gold coloured Mk 10 Jaguar nice car but too big & bulky for my liking.
.....I think jaguar were hoping it would sell well in America where the average car was the size of Kent in the sixties and seventies.
Has Kent shrunk since then? ;) Just a severe case of coastal erosion.
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Well second release of the car has a four figure bhp figure.... :-X
That'll scare the living shit out of a SJW with pronouns. >:D
Duck/Me? ::) :)
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.....I think jaguar were hoping it would sell well in America where the average car was the size of Kent in the sixties and seventies.
Has Kent shrunk since then? ;) Just a severe case of coastal erosion.
Yes, it has but coastal erosion accounts for a very small part. Most of it is down to the creation of the GLC which absorbed most of the Northern border.
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What is upsetting is that the new X900 is a pretty impressive bit of kit and full of the original Jag DNA.......lots of discussions at work, none positive. :-[
Is that the EV one? As I understand it, that's not going to be sold in the UK?
Well, I am having my products certified for use in the UK.......I do know that the US is seen as a major market (hence the Miami reveal there)
Are they components that would be used in other upcoming cars?
It's just what I'd heard is this was primarily for US and far East, and wouldn't be sold in Europe... ...but marketeers come and go, so that might have all changed again ;D
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Apparently, Rawdon Glover (Jaguar's MD) has said that reaction to the campaign has featured "vile and hateful intolerance".
::) ::)
When in a hole, stop digging...
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Jag's rebrand has even made it to the BBC's news
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20ny39wpg3o
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What is upsetting is that the new X900 is a pretty impressive bit of kit and full of the original Jag DNA.......lots of discussions at work, none positive. :-[
Is that the EV one? As I understand it, that's not going to be sold in the UK?
Well, I am having my products certified for use in the UK.......I do know that the US is seen as a major market (hence the Miami reveal there)
Are they components that would be used in other upcoming cars?
It's just what I'd heard is this was primarily for US and far East, and wouldn't be sold in Europe... ...but marketeers come and go, so that might have all changed again ;D
They are cross car line products but, there is then regional model line specific certs......and the latter is being done. :y
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What is upsetting is that the new X900 is a pretty impressive bit of kit and full of the original Jag DNA.......lots of discussions at work, none positive. :-[
Is that the EV one? As I understand it, that's not going to be sold in the UK?
Well, I am having my products certified for use in the UK.......I do know that the US is seen as a major market (hence the Miami reveal there)
Are they components that would be used in other upcoming cars?
It's just what I'd heard is this was primarily for US and far East, and wouldn't be sold in Europe... ...but marketeers come and go, so that might have all changed again ;D
They are cross car line products but, there is then regional model line specific certs......and the latter is being done. :y
So it might come to the UK then :). I keep getting conflicting info.
I like to keep my nose in, in case its something I want to buy when a 7yr old one comes up.... .... although JLR electrics often seem on par with french electrics, so maybe not in this case!
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I could definitely go for an iPace, and probably will do once Ms Reeves gets her hooks into the company car schemes and whacks a load more tax on ::)
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I could definitely go for an iPace, and probably will do once Ms Reeves gets her hooks into the company car schemes and whacks a load more tax on ::)
I saw a new one with just 16 miles on the clock. £42995.
List is around £80,000. :-X
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Jaguar are buying back nearly 3000 EVs, as they cannot fix over-heating batteries! ::)
Vauxhall is closing its van-making Luton factory and shifting to Ellesmere Port. Job losses, obviously. ::)
Northvolt (Swedish company) a main supplier of EV batteries is filing for bankruptcy. ::)
Lots of other news on MGUY's site: :y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsvTA-CrtQM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsvTA-CrtQM)
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Trust an Australian to say what they're thinking... >:D
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Just had a flyer shoved through my letterbox from a local dealer advertising Omoda ev's and petrol cars. Had never heard of them until today. Anyone got one? ;D
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Just had a flyer shoved through my letterbox from a local dealer advertising Omoda ev's and petrol cars. Had never heard of them until today. Anyone got one? ;D
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Finest Chinesium from Wuhu. No really ;D
Coming soon to a Mobility dealer near you.
Better off spending £25k on anything else. Literally.
Even a five year old Range Rover would be a better bet.
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Just had a flyer shoved through my letterbox from a local dealer advertising Omoda ev's and petrol cars. Had never heard of them until today. Anyone got one? ;D
If you're gonna buy a Chinese EV, buy a Monosodium Glutamate, at least they seem to have a dealer network in place.
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Just had a flyer shoved through my letterbox from a local dealer advertising Omoda ev's and petrol cars. Had never heard of them until today. Anyone got one? ;D
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The Daily Mirror were offering one as a prize , had a picture on the front page on Saturday caught my attention as I'd never heard of one or seen one looks very similar to latest Hyundai/Kia offerings.
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Unless we get a sensible government that has the balls to scrap Net Zero, we had better get used to seeing and yes owning and driving round in little Chinese electric boxes. ::)
Western car manufacturers cannot produce EV's at an affordable price that allows everyone to have one, so they will become scaled back luxury EV manufacturers and cars with what are now everyday badges will become expensive prestige marques. The rest of us will have to make do with a little LuckyChopSuey2 to run around in. :)
Resistance will be futile as the Climate Change Committee recommends ever more stringent measures to reduce CO2, driving petrol and diesel cars off the road as we approach 2050. The government, by the way is legally obliged to implement the CCC's recommendations by the Climate Change Act, making them the most powerful body in the land! :-X
Anyone wonder why Starmer and Lammy have been cosying up to China? ??? ;)
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Unless we get a sensible government that has the balls to scrap Net Zero, we had better get used to seeing and yes owning and driving round in little Chinese electric boxes. ::)
Western car manufacturers cannot produce EV's at an affordable price that allows everyone to have one, so they will become scaled back luxury EV manufacturers and cars with what are now everyday badges will become expensive prestige marques. The rest of us will have to make do with a little LuckyChopSuey2 to run around in. :)
Resistance will be futile as the Climate Change Committee recommends ever more stringent measures to reduce CO2, driving petrol and diesel cars off the road as we approach 2050. The government, by the way is legally obliged to implement the CCC's recommendations by the Climate Change Act, making them the most powerful body in the land! :-X
Anyone wonder why Starmer and Lammy have been cosying up to China? ??? ;)
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By 2050 I'll be past caring , if I make it to 2034 I will no longer be driving always said by 80 years of age I'll give up my licence maybe even earlier if I decide I'm past it.
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You forget one point. That only works if everyone buys new cars.
And however cheap those Chinesium shit boxes are, keeping a second hand older car on the road will always be cheaper.
Take the Proper car or the Mighty Vectrum... £65pm Vs £500 a month for something with no residual value.
Even if RFL quadruples, you still can't lose. It would obviously suck, but you would still be ahead.
Fuel and insurance are irrelevant as everyone has to pay them, even EVs need 'refueling' and insurance, and the costs are proportional to usage.
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You forget one point. That only works if everyone buys new cars.
And however cheap those Chinesium shit boxes are, keeping a second hand older car on the road will always be cheaper.
Take the Proper car or the Mighty Vectrum... £65pm Vs £500 a month for something with no residual value.
Even if RFL quadruples, you still can't lose. It would obviously suck, but you would still be ahead.
Fuel and insurance are irrelevant as everyone has to pay them, even EVs need 'refueling' and insurance, and the costs are proportional to usage.
You have missed the point completely. They mean to drive ALL petrol and diesel cars off our roads entirely. At some point they will be banned and we will have no choice in the matter. ::)
Don't underestimate these Net Zero zealots. :-X
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Unless we get a sensible government that has the balls to scrap Net Zero, we had better get used to seeing and yes owning and driving round in little Chinese electric boxes. ::)
Western car manufacturers cannot produce EV's at an affordable price that allows everyone to have one, so they will become scaled back luxury EV manufacturers and cars with what are now everyday badges will become expensive prestige marques. The rest of us will have to make do with a little LuckyChopSuey2 to run around in. :)
Resistance will be futile as the Climate Change Committee recommends ever more stringent measures to reduce CO2, driving petrol and diesel cars off the road as we approach 2050. The government, by the way is legally obliged to implement the CCC's recommendations by the Climate Change Act, making them the most powerful body in the land! :-X
Anyone wonder why Starmer and Lammy have been cosying up to China? ??? ;)
Hmmm..whatever happened to Rods? He could predict the future too. Not very well, mind ;D
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Unless we get a sensible government that has the balls to scrap Net Zero, we had better get used to seeing and yes owning and driving round in little Chinese electric boxes. ::)
Western car manufacturers cannot produce EV's at an affordable price that allows everyone to have one, so they will become scaled back luxury EV manufacturers and cars with what are now everyday badges will become expensive prestige marques. The rest of us will have to make do with a little LuckyChopSuey2 to run around in. :)
Resistance will be futile as the Climate Change Committee recommends ever more stringent measures to reduce CO2, driving petrol and diesel cars off the road as we approach 2050. The government, by the way is legally obliged to implement the CCC's recommendations by the Climate Change Act, making them the most powerful body in the land! :-X
Anyone wonder why Starmer and Lammy have been cosying up to China? ??? ;)
Hmmm..whatever happened to Rods? He could predict the future too. Not very well, mind ;D
Maybe he went off to join the Ukrainian Foreign Legion? ::)