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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: chrisr on 30 November 2024, 13:29:49
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I’ve just got my Omega back from a lengthy bodywork restoration and respray. All is good apart from the airbag light being on. I can’t get it back to the guy for a couple of weeks so wondered if there was something likely I could check. The obd 2 won’t clear it.
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What body work was done?
Light is most likely on because an airbag or pretensioner.circuit was disconnected with the ignition on.
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Anyone with Tech 2 in the Surbiton area? Or will disconnecting the battery work?
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All the hidden rot taken out and dents sorted.
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All the hidden rot taken out and dents sorted.
That doesn't answer the question. I was hoping for something more specific so as to identify the probable cause.
To be clear and to preempt the abuse from those that will do so without contribution, the above is to say:
And work on the front doors will affect the side impact sensors. If the front seats are removed then that's both the pretensions and side airbags. And if the dash has come out then that's both front airbags. And the centre console would affect the main airbag ECU.
It's also possible, although I haven't seen any that there are crash sensors in the front end, but I don't think the Omega is that clever.
Point being of any of that has been disturbed, damaged or unplugged and the ignition then switched on, the airbag light will be on until the fault is fixed and it is reset.
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Is there a switch for the passenger side airbag? I’ve never seen one.
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The side airbags and the passenger airbag are two separate things triggered by two separate devices.
The passenger dashboard airbag and drivers steering wheel air bag are triggered by the airbag ECU.
The side airbags have pressure switches in the door. Little blue bozx attached to a metal plate.This is also why it is so important to refit the membrane of there's anything done behind the door card.
The seatbelt pretensioners are controlled by the front airbags via the ECU. They should fire a nano second before the front bags are triggered but not the side airbags.
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The side airbags and the passenger airbag are two separate things triggered by two separate devices.
The passenger dashboard airbag and drivers steering wheel air bag are triggered by the airbag ECU.
The side airbags have pressure switches in the door. Little blue bozx attached to a metal plate.This is also why it is so important to refit the membrane of there's anything done behind the door card.
Eh, that's not correct....
On an Omega, all airbag squibs and seatbelt squibs on later cars* are activated by the Airbag/SRS ECU mounted in the centre console. The ECU uses a number of inputs, including the side impact detection sensors, to decide if/when/which airbags to activate.
*Only on post 1998 cars, pre 1998 cars had mechanical pretensioners, and also lacked side airbags.
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The side airbags and the passenger airbag are two separate things triggered by two separate devices.
The passenger dashboard airbag and drivers steering wheel air bag are triggered by the airbag ECU.
The side airbags have pressure switches in the door. Little blue bozx attached to a metal plate.This is also why it is so important to refit the membrane of there's anything done behind the door card.
Eh, that's not correct....
On an Omega, all airbag squibs and seatbelt squibs on later cars* are activated by the Airbag/SRS ECU mounted in the centre console. The ECU uses a number of inputs, including the side impact detection sensors, to decide if/when/which airbags to activate.
*Only on post 1998 cars, pre 1998 cars had mechanical pretensioners, and also lacked side airbags.
Fair does, but doesn't change why the light is on and where to look for checking.
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The side airbags and the passenger airbag are two separate things triggered by two separate devices.
The passenger dashboard airbag and drivers steering wheel air bag are triggered by the airbag ECU.
The side airbags have pressure switches in the door. Little blue bozx attached to a metal plate.This is also why it is so important to refit the membrane of there's anything done behind the door card.
Eh, that's not correct....
On an Omega, all airbag squibs and seatbelt squibs on later cars* are activated by the Airbag/SRS ECU mounted in the centre console. The ECU uses a number of inputs, including the side impact detection sensors, to decide if/when/which airbags to activate.
*Only on post 1998 cars, pre 1998 cars had mechanical pretensioners, and also lacked side airbags.
Fair does, but doesn't change why the light is on and where to look for checking.
You deserve a bit of abuse without contribution for that.
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It needs a code reader capable of reading the SRS system. Anything else is pissing in the wind.
Hopefully, if it was just an inn on event with an airbag or sensor disconnected, it will just reset. But that's can't be ascertained without reading said codes.
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Anyone here have one, or know of someone who does? I’m going to be taking it back to the guy who did the work but presumably he won’t be able to turn it off without said reader anyway. I’m happy to travel to someone who knows what they’re doing.
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I would imagine the nearest OOF Tech2 to you is Kevin Wood in Alton ?
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when i accidently turned on my ignition a few years ago with a footwell plug undone i got the airbag light and just took it to my local garage that i use for mots and they turned it off but thats in halifax so no use to you ! but my point is that many normal garages may have the relevant machine to read / turn it off . BUT worth asking the bodyshop ehere you hadxit if they unplugged anything anywhere ??
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when i accidently turned on my ignition a few years ago with a footwell plug undone i got the airbag light and just took it to my local garage that i use for mots and they turned it off but thats in halifax so no use to you ! but my point is that many normal garages may have the relevant machine to read / turn it off . BUT worth asking the bodyshop ehere you hadxit if they unplugged anything anywhere ??
Yes, any garage class dings tool should be able to do the SRS on any car :y
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i see you have the same problem as me with auto text . i have to read throu mine every time i type something and even then miss a few !
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The car sprayer is back from holiday soon so he will be the first point of contact. If no joy there I will contact Mr Wood. Fortunately I haven’t paid all the money yet.
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It turned out to be high resistance in the yellow plugs under the seat. A quick spray with switch cleaner and all is well. Don’t know what caused this but the guy with the scanner found it in minutes and said it can happen to a nearly new car.
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cannot see what he means ? most likely either one of the plugs was disconnected and not reconnected properly or the internal contacts are dirty or weak. if it happens again i would check them properly for corrosion,moisture damage or rust. no connector should have any real detectable 'resistance' through it ( of any appreciable amount)
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I was a bit sceptical, but I always am. Never had this problem in the 21 years I’ve had the car so I suspect it was something that happened while the car was being restored, anyway it’s fixed and he only charged me 40 quid so I’m happy.
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It turned out to be high resistance in the yellow plugs under the seat. A quick spray with switch cleaner and all is well. Don’t know what caused this but the guy with the scanner found it in minutes and said it can happen to a nearly new car.
Easy with a diag reader that can read the correct ECU, particularly if it has live data capability.
I've seen this on a 6 year old car, where the contacts needed cleaning up under the seat to stop the airbag light popping up
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Over enthusiastic valeting or infrequent movement of the seat (so the wiring is disturbed suddenly) are probably the likely causes