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Title: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Rangie on 26 January 2025, 18:05:47
Photo ID now required for online knife purchases, the numbers of incidents will fall drastically now..😂😂😂
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Varche on 26 January 2025, 18:23:59
Stop and searches plus punishment* for carrying offensive weapons might be a starting point.

I remember Paul Sheader producing a 12 inch? Bread knife at school. He was swiftly dealt with. Knife taken off him. Marched to heads office and after a wait, a good caning. Then suspended and parents had to plead for him to be able to return.

Contrast that with my good friend who gave up teaching following a string of incidents. The last one. A kid had dribbled water into a socket and then was trying to force another child’s fingers into it. He called him a “ stupid boy” and dragged them both away. Later in the afternoon he was called into the heads office where both parents were present with the offender. “ Did you call this boy stupid?” Well he was… “ No, did you call him stupid? Yes. “ We don’t call pupils stupid, apologise now.


* For the parents too. I don’t care what anybody says, most of societies problems today can be laid at the parents door. Crap parenting.
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 January 2025, 18:27:41
Its just so they can be seen to be doing something, because they actually havent a clue what to do.
If they did know the answers they would be far too spineless to implement them.
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: STEMO on 26 January 2025, 19:32:44
The answer to being caught with a blade is, obviously, prison. But that's never going to happen, not until you've used it.
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Andy B on 26 January 2025, 20:35:32
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* For the parents too. I don’t care what anybody says, most of societies problems today can be laid at the parents door. Crap parenting.

I disagree.
My daughter & son were both brought up in the same house, in the same manner & with the same rules. One is a shit & the other is a darling!
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Raeturbo on 26 January 2025, 20:37:10
The answer to being caught with a blade is, obviously, prison. But that's never going to happen, not until you've used it.
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                   ^This^
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: LC0112G on 26 January 2025, 20:49:17
A kid had dribbled water into a socket and then was trying to force another child’s fingers into it. He called him a “ stupid boy” and dragged them both away. Later in the afternoon he was called into the heads office where both parents were present with the offender. “ Did you call this boy stupid?” Well he was… “ No, did you call him stupid? Yes. “ We don’t call pupils stupid, apologise now.

I would have declined to apologise, and invite both parents, the kid, and the headmaster to the room with the socket, and demand all four to poke their fingers into the socket. That way it would be possible to establish who the real idiot(s) are. Not sure if I'd want the headmaster or kid to go first though.
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Varche on 26 January 2025, 23:38:58
Well I think the ( western ) world has gone mad.

I remember when I was 11 , my parents made me walk to school in bad weather. Two miles in drifting snow to the public service bus. No connection to the school so walked from station. Arrived at 10 30 ish in rain. Sent straight to headmasters office for caning for lying about snow and for being late. Rest of day was spent worrying about the two mile uphill trek in by now really deep drifts. No parents to meet me as village snowed in and no doubt the experience was character forming.

Last year, I told my dad about this and he was appalled . “ Why didn’t you tell me, I would have seen the head”. In those days your parents always sided with the school. I am roughly same age as STEMO not that Ronny chap from the dark ages.

Our village was snowed in for weeks after that day.

Andy. I agree to a point as a good friend model parent has a similar outcome but neither tote knives or hung out late at night with undesirables and both know right from wrong. My mum would have known if I had a knife
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: STEMO on 27 January 2025, 06:47:53
Well I think the ( western ) world has gone mad.


Yes. But it not just the change from when we were young, it's the pace of change. As if we are accelerating towards our own destruction.
And, despite the likes of Nigel Farage and Donald Trump, we will never go back. Not even a few years.
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Varche on 27 January 2025, 08:19:26
Very true. The genie is out of the bottle.
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 January 2025, 12:25:38
Well I think the ( western ) world has gone mad.

I remember when I was 11 , my parents made me walk to school in bad weather. Two miles in drifting snow to the public service bus. No connection to the school so walked from station. Arrived at 10 30 ish in rain. Sent straight to headmasters office for caning for lying about snow and for being late. Rest of day was spent worrying about the two mile uphill trek in by now really deep drifts. No parents to meet me as village snowed in and no doubt the experience was character forming.

Last year, I told my dad about this and he was appalled . “ Why didn’t you tell me, I would have seen the head”. In those days your parents always sided with the school. I am roughly same age as STEMO not that Ronny chap from the dark ages.

Our village was snowed in for weeks after that day.

Andy. I agree to a point as a good friend model parent has a similar outcome but neither tote knives or hung out late at night with undesirables and both know right from wrong. My mum would have known if I had a knife

Age 8 I would take 2 buses to school on my own.

Age 11 I would go to the dentist on my own including having teeth pulled using gas......which was unpleasant.

My old mum called it character building. :y

In order to get a day off school I would need to lose a major limb. :D
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: ronnyd on 27 January 2025, 15:26:00
Well I think the ( western ) world has gone mad.

I remember when I was 11 , my parents made me walk to school in bad weather. Two miles in drifting snow to the public service bus. No connection to the school so walked from station. Arrived at 10 30 ish in rain. Sent straight to headmasters office for caning for lying about snow and for being late. Rest of day was spent worrying about the two mile uphill trek in by now really deep drifts. No parents to meet me as village snowed in and no doubt the experience was character forming.

Last year, I told my dad about this and he was appalled . “ Why didn’t you tell me, I would have seen the head”. In those days your parents always sided with the school. I am roughly same age as STEMO not that Ronny chap from the dark ages.

Our village was snowed in for weeks after that day.

Andy. I agree to a point as a good friend model parent has a similar outcome but neither tote knives or hung out late at night with undesirables and both know right from wrong. My mum would have known if I had a knife
;D :P
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 January 2025, 15:41:08
The dark ages.....generally considered to be between 410 when the Romans left and 1066 when there was some sort of battle. ::)
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Varche on 27 January 2025, 16:38:32
Yep they are the ones but his memory isn’t that good now!
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 January 2025, 21:29:26
Don't start me on school buses. >:(

Was a little late on my commute today, so caught the school bus, which parks up outside the village hall. Ruddy great touring coach in a little lane, far too big to pull into the car park, so that's a pain in the ass to get past as it is. That wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the dozen or so SUVs abandoned wherever they come to a halt. So little Johnny gets a bus to school but needs 2 1/2 tonnes of tractor fuel guzzling faux 4x4 junk to get his @rse out of bed and the half a mile (max) to the bus itself. >:(
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: ronnyd on 27 January 2025, 22:21:45
Don't start me on school buses. >:(

Was a little late on my commute today, so caught the school bus, which parks up outside the village hall. Ruddy great touring coach in a little lane, far too big to pull into the car park, so that's a pain in the ass to get past as it is. That wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the dozen or so SUVs abandoned wherever they come to a halt. So little Johnny gets a bus to school but needs 2 1/2 tonnes of tractor fuel guzzling faux 4x4 junk to get his @rse out of bed and the half a mile (max) to the bus itself. >:(
Surprised that they let you on at your age. Did you remember to take your dinner money?
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 January 2025, 22:51:20
Don't start me on school buses. >:(

Was a little late on my commute today, so caught the school bus, which parks up outside the village hall. Ruddy great touring coach in a little lane, far too big to pull into the car park, so that's a pain in the ass to get past as it is. That wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the dozen or so SUVs abandoned wherever they come to a halt. So little Johnny gets a bus to school but needs 2 1/2 tonnes of tractor fuel guzzling faux 4x4 junk to get his @rse out of bed and the half a mile (max) to the bus itself. >:(
Surprised that they let you on at your age. Did you remember to take your dinner money?

Well, funnily enough, I did that once, when rather hung-over and trying to get the bus into town to retrieve my car.

"I think your school days are over, mate" was the exact expression, if memory serves. :-[
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Raeturbo on 28 January 2025, 13:01:16
Well I think the ( western ) world has gone mad.

I remember when I was 11 , my parents made me walk to school in bad weather. Two miles in drifting snow to the public service bus. No connection to the school so walked from station. Arrived at 10 30 ish in rain. Sent straight to headmasters office for caning for lying about snow and for being late. Rest of day was spent worrying about the two mile uphill trek in by now really deep drifts. No parents to meet me as village snowed in and no doubt the experience was character forming.

Last year, I told my dad about this and he was appalled . “ Why didn’t you tell me, I would have seen the head”. In those days your parents always sided with the school. I am roughly same age as STEMO not that Ronny chap from the dark ages.

Our village was snowed in for weeks after that day.

Andy. I agree to a point as a good friend model parent has a similar outcome but neither tote knives or hung out late at night with undesirables and both know right from wrong. My mum would have known if I had a knife

               Luxury…. We had to……..😄
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Rangie on 28 January 2025, 13:30:24
Got to admit to being a little bastard when I was a kid, got into all kinds of scrapes and enjoyed a good scrap but carrying a knife never entered my mind.
Title: Re: This will lower knife crime
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 28 January 2025, 19:13:05
Similar here. Although there wouldnt have been much point, as the other kid might have had a gun.  ;D
A 15 year old kid in my class actually pulled a gun on a teacher. His Dad ( a senior para military figure) beat the living shite out of him, and told the school not to phone the Police as it would never happen again - and it didnt.