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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Brian T on 15 July 2008, 16:40:46
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Not what some of you are thinking!!
How about a section where OOF members can offer their services for hire or free or whatever. It wouldn't necesarily have to be car based.
Members are all happy to give advice but some also cgo that bit further such as TB with his Tech 2 there are others I know that do cambelt changes for instance. so how about a section where they can advertise their wares?
Still not what some of you are thinking ;)
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Not what some of you are thinking!!
How about a section where OOF members can offer their services for hire or free or whatever. It wouldn't necesarily have to be car based.
Members are all happy to give advice but some also cgo that bit further such as TB with his Tech 2 there are others I know that do cambelt changes for instance. so how about a section where they can advertise their wares?
Still not what some of you are thinking ;)
Well you can put me down for making the tea and sandwiches Brian!! ;D :y
No, seriously, that seems like a good idea worth thinking about by the members who really can offer these services if they want to. :y
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Brian, a good idea, and one we've considered. I would like to see something along lines of that added, perhaps combined with a recommended garage etc type section.
The downside at the moment is we are having enough trouble getting the For Sale sections to run smoothly; I think such a section could cause even more problems for the admin staff.
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Can imagine a few people would take the piss.
Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
I think services should be offered, or answering a plea for help rather than a 'pester this person'
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i would be game for offering my services in my area ! :y
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Can imagine a few people would take the piss.
Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
I think services should be offered, or answering a plea for help rather than a 'pester this person'
I agree the last thing I would want is people being pestered for their services. As I said I'm not suggesting it should be free either. From what I've seen in my short time on here is there are some who quite literally go out of their way to help others, I would rather pay somebody on here £150 for a job knowing that they are trusted members rather than give the same or more to some cowboy in a garage who is only interested in his profit margin.
As for TB's concerns maybe there are web developers out there who could help also.
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Can imagine a few people would take the piss.
Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
I think services should be offered, or answering a plea for help rather than a 'pester this person'
Maybe thats where the post count of a member shows it's true value.
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Can imagine a few people would take the piss.
Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
I think services should be offered, or answering a plea for help rather than a 'pester this person'
Maybe thats where the post count of a member shows it's true value.
I agree there, would make it a lot smoother :y
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Can imagine a few people would take the piss.
Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
I think services should be offered, or answering a plea for help rather than a 'pester this person'
I agree the last thing I would want is people being pestered for their services. As I said I'm not suggesting it should be free either. From what I've seen in my short time on here is there are some who quite literally go out of their way to help others, I would rather pay somebody on here £150 for a job knowing that they are trusted members rather than give the same or more to some cowboy in a garage who is only interested in his profit margin.
As for TB's concerns maybe there are web developers out there who could help also.
The issues are generally not technical :-X
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Can imagine a few people would take the piss.
Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
I think services should be offered, or answering a plea for help rather than a 'pester this person'
I agree the last thing I would want is people being pestered for their services. As I said I'm not suggesting it should be free either. From what I've seen in my short time on here is there are some who quite literally go out of their way to help others, I would rather pay somebody on here £150 for a job knowing that they are trusted members rather than give the same or more to some cowboy in a garage who is only interested in his profit margin.
As for TB's concerns maybe there are web developers out there who could help also.
The issues are generally not technical :-X
Nuff said ;)
Well my day job is with a TV broadcaster so it's unlikely I can offer any help from that field, but I like to think I'm fairly hot on the IT front and if I don't know the answer I generaly know someone who does. So feel free to ask away!
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Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
Wasn't aware of that :-/
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Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
Wasn't aware of that :-/
I know it sounds bad but because of this when there is a cam belt meet there should be a post count of say 100 or more for members who have come to have there cambelt done. Just an idea :)
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Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
Wasn't aware of that :-/
I know it sounds bad but because of this when there is a cam belt meet there should be a post count of say 100 or more for members who have come to have there cambelt done. Just an idea :)
I would have said more for a cambelt,
Many members have a 100 post count, a lot of them may not have been on for a while and just poped in to take advantage.
What about a sliding scale.
Amount of post relevent to time to do a job.
100 posts = 30 mins = Disk Pads replaced
150 posts = 45 mins = Pads and Disks Replaced
200 points = ?
250 = points = ?
500 points = ?
750 points = Exhaust Change
1000 points = Cambelt Change
Above is just an idea, but maybe a fair way to look at it
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Trouble is you could have the situation where a member has made, say, 95 really useful and helpful posts which have benefitted many members and can't get help at a meet ....versus ... a member like me, made many more posts, but with little technical merit, who could get help.
Which is the more deserving? Personally I would throw me out !!!
I think each memebr has to be judged on individual merits -- just like the big wide world, there are going to be users and wasters -- but the majority are a good bunch.
Maybe -- the minimum count should be used, just to establish a member of "good standing", but thereafter it's up to every individual who they help and how much.
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Very true, but you have to start some where.
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Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
Wasn't aware of that :-/
I know it sounds bad but because of this when there is a cam belt meet there should be a post count of say 100 or more for members who have come to have there cambelt done. Just an idea :)
I would have said more for a cambelt,
Many members have a 100 post count, a lot of them may not have been on for a while and just poped in to take advantage.
What about a sliding scale.
Amount of post relevent to time to do a job.
100 posts = 30 mins = Disk Pads replaced
150 posts = 45 mins = Pads and Disks Replaced
200 points = ?
250 = points = ?
500 points = ?
750 points = Exhaust Change
1000 points = Cambelt Change
Above is just an idea, but maybe a fair way to look at it
any 1000 posts member should be able to do their own belt!!
i believe oof is equal to all. A newbie (as we all were once) has the same rights as a veteran. (there are exceptions with selling to overcome other issues).
some members decide to only physically assist highly active members. they have every right to do that. Whilst possibly not fully in the 'oof spirit', they are giving their time, and should have right to pick and choose.
in the same way, i tend to trent friends and aquaintences differently - goof friends who I know will always give a little and not always take will be priority for me.
//TB guiltily tries to find a way to repay Mr DTM for cambelts/ecu work/tractor diags/HGs/handbrakes/endless list :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
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Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
Wasn't aware of that :-/
Without wanting to name and shame.....
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=harison213
ooops, I just did
Signed up
took the piss
left.
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I'm new to all this forum malarky and costantly leave my ofspring screeching in hysterics when I ask what turns out to be a dumb forum related question like (what's LOL mean).....I know now!
As yet I've not been to any meets or parties, but what's the deal at a cambelt party do those having it done pay for the services of the person doing it or do they just pay for the parts?
If they're paying for the persons time then surely stopping somebody from having it done because their post count is low is a bit harsh. (my count is in the low 100'a but my money's just as good as TB's for instance) However if you guy's are doing this for nothing then of course that would be an issue.
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No money changes hands, its all helping and learning.
Those that can, do
those who can't try and help / or guided through doing as much as they can, or just spectate.
Always a good time had by all.
The only money normally paid is to Jaime, towards the costs of the tech2's
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I believe that word of mouth is more trusted than post count. If the person has done good on previous jobs and has had no repercusion from that oof member than that should be the person you could contact regarding any problems that you might have with the car, i.e If an oof member can do cambelts with ease and has had good reports from those members given to others or someone can do genral serviceing and has good reports as well then may be they should be contacted for there services, wether they would charge you for there time or not. I personally have help a few oof members and have had a good report from them and with it coming through the forum.
Paul :y
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I think a donation should be made at cambelt parties ect for services rendered and the money used for the running/up keep of the forum or bits for the meets ie marque, BBQ.
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No money changes hands, its all helping and learning.
Those that can, do
those who can't try and help / or guided through doing as much as they can, or just spectate.
Always a good time had by all.
The only money normally paid is to Jaime, towards the costs of the tech2's
Ignoring Tech2s for a mo, no money is paid (unless people get parts on behalf of others etc) - it is a meeting for like minded enthusiasts to help each other, with the 'experts' showing the less experienced hwo to do jobs.
Its not just car jobs attendees can help with - for instance, my tractor got a full external valet, and bob.dent was (as usual) chief chef on the bbq.
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No money changes hands, its all helping and learning.
Those that can, do
those who can't try and help / or guided through doing as much as they can, or just spectate.
Always a good time had by all.
The only money normally paid is to Jaime, towards the costs of the tech2's
Ignoring Tech2s for a mo, no money is paid (unless people get parts on behalf of others etc) - it is a meeting for like minded enthusiasts to help each other, with the 'experts' showing the less experienced hwo to do jobs.
Its not just car jobs attendees can help with - for instance, my tractor got a full external valet, and bob.dent was (as usual) chief chef on the bbq.
Tech2s, unfortunately, have to have a financial contribution.
Ignoring the software updates that Tech2 requires for a mo, the hardware alone is approx £1500 each for a 2nd hand one. I have 2, so a significant investment. And on the lookout for a 3rd :-X
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No money changes hands, its all helping and learning.
Those that can, do
those who can't try and help / or guided through doing as much as they can, or just spectate.
Always a good time had by all.
The only money normally paid is to Jaime, towards the costs of the tech2's
Well I'm even more impressed now, I know you all give up enough time answering questions on here but getting down and dirty under the bonnet is commendable! I understand the charging for the Tech 2 stuff becasue of the high purchase cost and the constant need to keep them up to date again very expensive.
I also understand the concerns about people just wanting something done and then disapering never to be heard of again.
I'm not sure I have any answers to this as I say I'm new to all of this and am very impressed with the level of knowledge and help offered as well as the speed at which the reply's come. I guess we just have to hope that future attendees are not there just for a freebie.
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Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
Wasn't aware of that :-/
Without wanting to name and shame.....
Well, I was finally named and I AM ashamed :(
Just tell me and I'll do whatever I reasonably could to change the way you felt about me after that meet... I didn't post a TY on the forum straight away after the event and after that everytime I wanted to, I thought it's now too late... Believe it or not that's been my nightmare ever since and honestly I didn't know how/what to do. I've really felt bad about it; I couldn't post a TY as it was too late, and I couldn't post anything else as I knew it wouldn't be welcome :'( up until now...
If you'd agree, I'll be there for the next meet, not touching my car but just to help out others... ?
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Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
Wasn't aware of that :-/
Without wanting to name and shame.....
Well, I was finally named and I AM ashamed :(
Just tell me and I'll do whatever I reasonably could to change the way you felt about me after that meet... I didn't post a TY on the forum straight away after the event and after that everytime I wanted to, I thought it's now too late... Believe it or not that's been my nightmare ever since and honestly I didn't know how/what to do. I've really felt bad about it; I couldn't post a TY as it was too late, and I couldn't post anything else as I knew it wouldn't be welcome :'( up until now...
If you don't take the pi$$, I'll be there for the next meet, not touching my car but just to help out others... ?
Fair play for coming back, you could easily reregister and change name etc.
Grudges arn't held here, stay, join in, noone will think the worse of you :y
Welcome back
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Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
Wasn't aware of that :-/
Without wanting to name and shame.....
Well, I was finally named and I AM ashamed :(
Just tell me and I'll do whatever I reasonably could to change the way you felt about me after that meet... I didn't post a TY on the forum straight away after the event and after that everytime I wanted to, I thought it's now too late... Believe it or not that's been my nightmare ever since and honestly I didn't know how/what to do. I've really felt bad about it; I couldn't post a TY as it was too late, and I couldn't post anything else as I knew it wouldn't be welcome :'( up until now...
If you don't take the pi$$, I'll be there for the next meet, not touching my car but just to help out others... ?
Fair play for coming back, you could easily reregister and change name etc.
Grudges arn't held here, stay, join in, noone will think the worse of you :y
Welcome back
Exactly whats said above.....
Life is too short to hold grudges..... :y
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Like at the last cambelt meet where a certain member signed up, came to that, and hasn't been seen since.
Wasn't aware of that :-/
Without wanting to name and shame.....
Well, I was finally named and I AM ashamed :(
Just tell me and I'll do whatever I reasonably could to change the way you felt about me after that meet... I didn't post a TY on the forum straight away after the event and after that everytime I wanted to, I thought it's now too late... Believe it or not that's been my nightmare ever since and honestly I didn't know how/what to do. I've really felt bad about it; I couldn't post a TY as it was too late, and I couldn't post anything else as I knew it wouldn't be welcome :'( up until now...
If you don't take the pi$$, I'll be there for the next meet, not touching my car but just to help out others... ?
Fair play for coming back, you could easily reregister and change name etc.
Grudges arn't held here, stay, join in, noone will think the worse of you :y
Welcome back
That was much warm a treat than I though I would get, cheers Jim.
I didn't want to reregister, as I am the same person and you'd recognize me in any further meets, etc. More importantly that would have been taking advantage, which I think you agree wasn't my intention although it looks as if it was.
Again I'm so sorry if my carelessness has caused anyone of you trouble or it has hurt your feelings :(
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Exactly whats said above.....
Life is too short to hold grudges..... :y
Thanks, those comments make me feel better :)
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Good on you mate for fronting up and coming back. We all have upsets and misunderstanding now and again --- but, as has been said, life is too short. :y
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Welcome back :)
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Honesty pays matey, :y :y for being open.
Welcome back and lets see more posts from you. :y :y
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Thanks guys :) and a delayed thanks to Mark for enabling the cc and helping out on the wheel hub :)
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As said, life is too short, and we don't like grudges. Nice to see you back :y
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Going back to the original idea of offering services, I must admit to being a bit surprised by the lack of a basic "Weblinks" page, although if you do have one, I apologise for not noticing it and would ask you to show me where it is.
Apart from the Member Services offered on things like Cambelt parties etc etc, there are also many trade companies out there, myself included, who would love to promote our company and services to all the car clubs irresepctive of whether we are active members or not, and many other clubs have "Links" pages that advertise the products and services available to all.
Apart from the obvious benefits to myself of offering Car Audio Decoding and Repairs, It can also provide a worthwhile solution to many members who may need mine and other similar services.
There is an easy way to regulate this. If this was offered out on a "Free Reciprocal Link" basis, ie, for every company that you listed a return Banner Advert and weblink to, they would also have to offer one back to the OOF free of charge on an EASY TO FIND page on their own website, and this would eliminate many of the companies who were in it to promote themselves and no-one else (insurance comapnies etc etc) But the benefit that I would also mention is Google search rankings. The more links you have coming into and out of your website, the higher up the Google ranking list you go, meaning that the Omega Owners Club could be advertised to many more people who were otherwise not aware it existed due to being placed higher in the search results.
If you wanted to start off with someone, I am more than happy to play guinea pig and add a reciprocal link to my own corporate website, and would simply ask for a moderator to get in touch with me to arrange banners / URL`s etc etc.
8-)
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A way of implementing this is being actively looked into.
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just to add i would like to be alot more involved with the site and i do have a it background but my skills under the bonnet are very limited i would love to bump my posts but i dont want to add things just for the sake of adding them. if some one needs help. i will go out of my way to help them. but advising them on a matter i have no idea about is not an ideal situation
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just to add i would like to be alot more involved with the site and i do have a it background but my skills under the bonnet are very limited i would love to bump my posts but i dont want to add things just for the sake of adding them. if some one needs help. i will go out of my way to help them. but advising them on a matter i have no idea about is not an ideal situation
You don't need to have extensive under bonnet skills to be involved ;)
Many of our more active members, by their own admission, are not mechnically minded.
My own background is that horrid word 'IT', mainly Solaris/Linux/Windows servers providing Internet services such as mail, dns, web, radius, news etc.
We have an active General Chat section, where there is always someone needing help on all kinds of weird subjects ;) - helping people with advice, not just about cars, is what makes this a great community :y
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I've got v6 cam lock kit that I dont mind offering, I see several people already offer this. If you let me know what conditions etc I will get mine advertised so people around the norfolk area can borrow it...
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I've got v6 cam lock kit that I dont mind offering, I see several people already offer this. If you let me know what conditions etc I will get mine advertised so people around the norfolk area can borrow it...
I think the OOF Members Map is best place to make people aware of what specialist items you have available :y
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I also would love to swop links. and offer forum members discounts. Don't care how many posts people have made. if they are a forum member i'm happy to give a discount. Realy would be a benifit to members if you set up a page or section doing this. Love the cam belt party idea, will look into doing something along the same lines with the 924 owners club. Rob