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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 17 March 2026, 09:00:26
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Should Europe be answering Trump’s rallying call and sending ships to help keep Straits of Hormuz open?
Is this a ploy to permanently disrupt Middle East oil sales so that America can fill the shortfall by pumping more and extracting oil from Venezuela? Where will China get its oil from? Maybe America?
Is there actually a plan beyond next week?
What are the 5000 troops on their way to the Middle East going to do? Secure Kharg island?
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Get your head out of the corner of the box, there's a much bigger picture at play. Focusing on Trump 'because he's XYZ' totally blinds people from what's actually happening. The media are doing nothing but directing the narrative they way they want you to see it.
For example, the strategic attack of Kharg Island... Portrayed as a flop because all the oil infrastructure was left intact. In reality an extremely well executed surgical operation. Why destroy all the oil infrastructure if you then have to spend years reinstalling it?
Not getting involved in Hormuz would be a deliberate leftist action designed to control the narrative of fear in order to drive the cost of fuel through the roof to satisfy the WEF and their green agenda.
The Nefarious few hoped that cancelling the insurance would put a stop to the movement of the oil Sitting on their thumbs is their only play left unless China actively gets involved. At this point Europe would have to make a choice, and then their true colours will show.
And when that happens we had better start learning Mandarin :-X
We're at the point where we can curtail the quiet Chinese march for global dominance that hides behind the rise of Islamist chaos.
The Russians understand what's going on and have bought their way back into the dollar. And if anyone knows a thing or two about survival, it's the Russians.
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I believe that most of us on the forum are well read and informed and able to see through the media reports - whatever the channel . The Khartoum island initiative is a good example.
The EU have declared no appetite for actively policing the straits. Until the EU is federalised it doesn’t really have a voice on the world stage.
That leaves individual countries to decide. I don’t think it is a leftist agenda not to get involved , more a lack of understanding the end game or even the plan. The USA has a good track record of starting wars but not being able to finish them. Surely this time there was a plan that didn’t involve dragging everyone else into what would easily, openly , become WW3.
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I don't know how much oil the UK buys from Iran. I suspect not much, so there's no legitimate reason for fuel prices to escalate.
The cost of products that do rely on Iranian oil will rise eventually, but to mark up everything already produced is little more than greed and scaremongering.
It should be a wake up call as the the true price of all the cheap Chinesium shite we adore so much, but everyone is fixated on that five letter magic word "Trump".
If it had been Obama that did everything that Trump is doing, it would be the best thing since sliced bread and Penicillin :-X
WE have directly allowed ourselves to be in this position and it's time to pay the piper. Voted accordingly.
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I don't know how much oil the UK buys from Iran. I suspect not much, so there's no legitimate reason for fuel prices to escalate.
The cost of products that do rely on Iranian oil will rise eventually, but to mark up everything already produced is little more than greed and scaremongering.
It should be a wake up call as the the true price of all the cheap Chinesium shite we adore so much, but everyone is fixated on that five letter magic word "Trump".
If it had been Obama that did everything that Trump is doing, it would be the best thing since sliced bread and Penicillin :-X
WE have directly allowed ourselves to be in this position and it's time to pay the piper. Voted accordingly.
Iran, Saudi, Oman, UAE, and every other gulf state cannot get any oil out through the strait. Those oil producers that don't need to use the strait are selling to the highest bidder. That's why the price of oil has gone up.
Simple, really.
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Zackly. :y
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Did i hear right that Starmer offered two aircraft carriers to help police the Straight of Hormuz? I thought that one was broken down and months away from readiness.
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I don't know how much oil the UK buys from Iran. I suspect not much, so there's no legitimate reason for fuel prices to escalate.
The cost of products that do rely on Iranian oil will rise eventually, but to mark up everything already produced is little more than greed and scaremongering.
It should be a wake up call as the the true price of all the cheap Chinesium shite we adore so much, but everyone is fixated on that five letter magic word "Trump".
If it had been Obama that did everything that Trump is doing, it would be the best thing since sliced bread and Penicillin :-X
WE have directly allowed ourselves to be in this position and it's time to pay the piper. Voted accordingly.
Iran, Saudi, Oman, UAE, and every other gulf state cannot get any oil out through the strait. Those oil producers that don't need to use the strait are selling to the highest bidder. That's why the price of oil has gone up.
Simple, really.
So it's in everyone's interest to muck in.
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I don't know how much oil the UK buys from Iran. I suspect not much, so there's no legitimate reason for fuel prices to escalate.
The cost of products that do rely on Iranian oil will rise eventually, but to mark up everything already produced is little more than greed and scaremongering.
It should be a wake up call as the the true price of all the cheap Chinesium shite we adore so much, but everyone is fixated on that five letter magic word "Trump".
If it had been Obama that did everything that Trump is doing, it would be the best thing since sliced bread and Penicillin :-X
WE have directly allowed ourselves to be in this position and it's time to pay the piper. Voted accordingly.
Iran, Saudi, Oman, UAE, and every other gulf state cannot get any oil out through the strait. Those oil producers that don't need to use the strait are selling to the highest bidder. That's why the price of oil has gone up.
Simple, really.
So it's in everyone's interest to muck in.
No. This is Donald's party. He let Netanyahu pull the wool over his eyes, so he has to sort it out.
Of course, that won't stop him from blaming everyone else and spitting his dummy out. But he's created a very dangerous situation, and let his blackmailer, Vlad, off the hook.
I never thought it would be an American president that brought the world closer to absolute chaos, but Donald is not a statesman, he's an idiot.
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Time will tell.
Although I thought it would be clear by now that Trump is no statesman and nor has he ever claimed to be one and to measure him as such is perhaps shortsighted.
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Did i hear right that Starmer offered two aircraft carriers to help police the Straight of Hormuz? I thought that one was broken down and months away from readiness.
And people say Donald is retarded.
Once the dust settles and the region is stabilised, there won't be a need for significant military presence in the region beyond the routine international patrols.
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Time will tell.
Although I thought it would be clear by now that Trump is no statesman and nor has he ever claimed to be one and to measure him as such is perhaps shortsighted.
Shortsighted? ;D
He's a fluckin moron
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Did i hear right that Starmer offered two aircraft carriers to help police the Straight of Hormuz? I thought that one was broken down and months away from readiness.
And people say Donald is retarded.
Once the dust settles and the region is stabilised, there won't be a need for significant military presence in the region beyond the routine international patrols.
The region will NEVER be stabilised until there is World government with draconian measures ( god help us). I think Israel’s thinking is to neutralise Iran, Hizbolla, the hooties etc etc. Good luck with that
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All academic now as US says it no longer needs help with the Iran war.
The lord be praised it will all be over soon!
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Here are some pearls of wisdom from mastermind today:
This is the verbatim transcript of that moment: "...substantial person, wealthy person, whose parents live in Lebanon. I said:
'Really, how do you live in Lebanon? Your parents? Oh, yeah, they live there. And over the years, they've gotten used to the fact that it's being bombed.'
"But they explained to me that it's really a different section of Lebanon. It's the section where Hezbollah is, and they get used to it, I guess... I mean people live in Ukraine.
"You would think they wouldn't live in Ukraine, but they live in Ukraine. I don't know that I'd do that, but they live in Ukraine. They live in Lebanon."
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Did i hear right that Starmer offered two aircraft carriers to help police the Straight of Hormuz? I thought that one was broken down and months away from readiness.
And people say Donald is retarded.
Once the dust settles and the region is stabilised, there won't be a need for significant military presence in the region beyond the routine international patrols.
The region will NEVER be stabilised until there is World government with draconian measures ( god help us). I think Israel’s thinking is to neutralise Iran, Hizbolla, the hooties etc etc. Good luck with that
From 2008, posted in 2011, Gaddafi's full speech from the Arab league of Nations... https://youtu.be/fMLmA4lnxXo?si=_6dttw7BaQ8Rrwzj
Fundamentalist Islamism is founded on eradication of all Jews, starting with Israel. This is Iranian foreign policy either directly or via the well documented proxies.
An Iraqi perspective of the Iran/Israel situation:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DV7rjDpOMR7/?igsh=MTl2YzBqNTd6NjR5ag==
Sitting at a table and discussing it will never achieve anything.
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The lord be praised it will all be over soon!
It won't. The US are still deploying more assets to the region. 12 More F-35's on Monday, 6 EA-18's and 5 E-2D's today, and rumors of more F-16's and F-22's on their way. Also looks like a 3rd carrier might be on the way.
Trump is more likely to 'double down' than decide it's done.
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To the original premise of this thread...
If the UN haven't done anything and NATO is irrelevant, (and let's be honest, IF Ukraine is barely a NATO issue, the Middle East definitely isn't :-X), then we should be thanking Israel and the US for finally making a stand.
And if Lloyds won't insure ANY shipping in the region, the surely the burden of protecting the shipping falls to the countries under whose flags that shipping operates, (or the countries that protect those flags). Unfortunately we don't have any assets of use to protect Cyprus,.let alone UK registered merchant vessels.
Obviously this shortcoming highlights the very reasoning behind Trump's challenge to NATO members to pick up their share of contributions during his first term. But no one took him seriously. I would politely suggest that they are reconsidering that decision even if they won't publicly admit it.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DVv1vs2jPdt/?img_index=4&igsh=MXg4emlhM3E4Y2hpaw==
So remind me, why are the media trying to drive the fear mongering?
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To the original premise of this thread...
If the UN haven't done anything and NATO is irrelevant, (and let's be honest, IF Ukraine is barely a NATO issue, the Middle East definitely isn't :-X), then we should be thanking Israel and the US for finally making a stand.
Correct. NATO is a defensive organisation. It isn't setup to conduct offensive ops outside of Europe. However, countries that are part of NATO are allowed to conduct unilateral or multinational ops outside of the NATO area. So blaming NATO (or the EU) for inaction is simply wrong. The US should either have tried for a UN mandate (which they wouldn't have got) or arranged support from a coalition of partners before they kicked off. Getting in neck deep and then asking for international help never works. It was obvious from the start that Israel is calling the shots, and the US was persuaded into the conflict by Netanyahu.
And if Lloyds won't insure ANY shipping in the region, the surely the burden of protecting the shipping falls to the countries under whose flags that shipping operates, (or the countries that protect those flags). Unfortunately we don't have any assets of use to protect Cyprus,.let alone UK registered merchant vessels.
Cyprus is an independent country, and is not in NATO. We have no obligation to defend it, any more than Ukraine. Akrotiri is not Cyprus, and there are plenty of UK assets in place to defend Akrotiri (admittedly a bit late). The reason it was targeted is much more likely due to the operation of a certain US spy plane from there.
Obviously this shortcoming highlights the very reasoning behind Trump's challenge to NATO members to pick up their share of contributions during his first term. But no one took him seriously. I would politely suggest that they are reconsidering that decision even if they won't publicly admit it.
Countries are re-considering. The US is now seen as an unreliable partner by many, so whilst in the short term there may be no option but to buy US weapons, countries are actively trying to 'design out' reliance on the US. Long term that is going to be bad for the US.