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Title: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 21 September 2008, 19:15:57
Any recomdations for an Intel Quad Core Cooler

TIA  :y :y
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: tunnie on 21 September 2008, 19:17:25
check ebuyer, sometimes they give away coolers with the chip.

I would get something decent like one with an Alaska fan.
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 21 September 2008, 19:34:12
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check ebuyer, sometimes they give away coolers with the chip.

I would get something decent like one with an Alaska fan.


Just bought one of these.

https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Fans%2C+Heatsinks%2C+Coolers/Akasa+AK-965+Intel+92mm+Heatpipe+Cooler+-+775+?productId=28241

Bought a Motherboard and Quad core with 4GB of PC8500 from a mate and he is chucking in a load of liquid cooling bits for the board.  So at some stage will be looking for a Reservoir, radiator and pump to have a play with liquid cooling, but just need a standard fan for now. :D
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 September 2008, 19:53:21
Bit gimmicky that heatsink..........lIt only needs heatpipes to try and over come the inferior positioning of the fan!

As for the water cooled stuff, put it straight on eaby!
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 21 September 2008, 19:56:50
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Bit gimmicky that heatsink..........lIt only needs heatpipes to try and over come the inferior positioning of the fan!

As for the water cooled stuff, put it straight on eaby!

Most of the heatsinks dont look that much different, but decided to go for it due to the reaons you mention.

I was considering having a play with the liquid cooling, one of the reasons was to save so much dust being dragged into the case
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 September 2008, 19:58:59
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Bit gimmicky that heatsink..........lIt only needs heatpipes to try and over come the inferior positioning of the fan!

As for the water cooled stuff, put it straight on eaby!

Most of the heatsinks dont look that much different, but decided to go for it due to the reaons you mention.

I was considering having a play with the liquid cooling, one of the reasons was to save so much dust being dragged into the case

So, are you going to also liquid cool;

The memory
The bridge chips
The garphics cards
The hard disk
The power supply
The DC-DC's

If not then you still need fan air cooling so.....bung it on ebay.

These water cooling setups I have seen cause big issues, including serious galavanic corrosion!
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 21 September 2008, 20:05:18
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Bit gimmicky that heatsink..........lIt only needs heatpipes to try and over come the inferior positioning of the fan!

As for the water cooled stuff, put it straight on eaby!

Most of the heatsinks dont look that much different, but decided to go for it due to the reaons you mention.

I was considering having a play with the liquid cooling, one of the reasons was to save so much dust being dragged into the case

So, are you going to also liquid cool;

The memory
The bridge chips
The garphics cards
The hard disk
The power supply

The DC-DC's

If not then you still need fan air cooling so.....bung it on ebay.

These water cooling setups I have seen cause big issues, including serious galavanic corrosion!

have no intentions of rushing into it, if that were the case it would allready be done, will probably carry on collecting the bits till I have enought to complete.

For a long time have considered just fitting the LC just for the memory cooling, tried the bridge fans for a while but too noisy.  all the machine I have ever tried running 4 x ram in they have allways suffered heat issues..  Not that I have tried that many.
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: TheBoy on 21 September 2008, 20:10:48
The stock coolers that intel provide with retail chips (I'd always recommend retail over OEM for a number of reasons) are more than enough.  With Core2, TDP for quad is 95W, 65W for dual core.  Not massive amounts compared to the AthlonXP series or the early Prescott P4s
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 September 2008, 20:36:58
Water cooling systems only necessary in case of "violent" overclocking..

Zalman,Asus ,Revoltec,Arctic brands are more than adequate for CPU cooling..

But as an additional info if you want extra reliability from your disk (some brands are really getting hot even 7200 RPMS)
 I can recommend something like that
(if your environment is hot which I think in UK is not)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/5388.jpg)

Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Plomien on 21 September 2008, 22:30:49
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=57
I recommend looking here for the best stuff then search around for cheaper ;)
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 21 September 2008, 22:45:20
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http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=57
I recommend looking here for the best stuff then search around for cheaper ;)

Allways been a good site.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/search_results?sortby=priceAsc&search=775%20cooler
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: wakeyomega on 22 September 2008, 00:38:29
I'm using a Zalman CNPS9700 LED on my overclocked core 2 dual, and will keep it when I pop a quad in this autumn. Can definitely recommend the Zalman. If you are not overclocking then use a standard Intel.

Have fun

Pat
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 22 September 2008, 02:32:03
Seems I have picked up the following.

2 x Corsair 2GB PC2-8500 C5 XMS2 Dominator (2x1GB) (4gb total)

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz 95W G0 Stepping

Gigabyte GA-EP35C-DS3R P35 Socket 775 Motherboard

Plus a colection of bitz.  inc a firewire card, various water cooling blocks, DVI and HDMI concectors/converters.

Not bad for the bargain sum of £*? :-[

Only down side the board is optimised for the ATI serious of Graphics cards rather than the Nvidea.  So on the lookout now for a cheap ATI graphics card ((512mb high end) :y
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Plomien on 22 September 2008, 07:09:54
There is a gigabyte board for the nvidia as well, either that or look at the XFX as its been an excellent board for me and runs nvidia nicely
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 22 September 2008, 07:11:27
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There is a gigabyte board for the nvidia as well, either that or look at the XFX as its been an excellent board for me and runs nvidia nicely

I understand that, but it wont be the price I am pating for this one.  ::) :y
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Plomien on 22 September 2008, 07:17:53
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There is a gigabyte board for the nvidia as well, either that or look at the XFX as its been an excellent board for me and runs nvidia nicely

I understand that, but it wont be the price I am pating for this one.  ::) :y
No probs, I had a gigabyte board before the XFX and it is still running in my sisters PC albeit on 8x AGP :D
So either would be a good choice, also ATI cards seem to be catching up with Nvidia again, although there have been some driver issues.
get your drivers from http://www.techpowerup.com/softmod/ and you should be fine
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 22 September 2008, 07:46:51
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There is a gigabyte board for the nvidia as well, either that or look at the XFX as its been an excellent board for me and runs nvidia nicely

I understand that, but it wont be the price I am pating for this one.  ::) :y
No probs, I had a gigabyte board before the XFX and it is still running in my sisters PC albeit on 8x AGP :D
So either would be a good choice, also ATI cards seem to be catching up with Nvidia again, although there have been some driver issues.
get your drivers from http://www.techpowerup.com/softmod/ and you should be fine

I was considering an upgrade abbout 6 weeks ago, bought the 8800GTX 768MB which is what set it all off and am runnning a Gigabyte GA-8n-SLI with a 3.0 Gig CPU etc.

Fancied a duel core but asked on the forum and then started considering the Quad core.

Then chatting a way last week to a mate he said he had just bought a quad core extreme and board, so out of curiosity I just mentioned his old stuff as listed earlier, or the same board and CPU with 3GB of DDR3 as the board takes both.  Made an offer and he accepted based on the DDR3

Things have changed slightly since we 1st spoke, I am now getting 4GB DDR2 plus a load of bitz and pieces so for the speed of CPU it's still a good balance.  So just looking for an ATI as mentioned.

Also since I was offered it I have just started building a machine I bought parts for quite a while back,

Is going to be a test bed as it takes DDR and DDR2, plus also has AGP and PCI-e slots for the graphics.  Thats got a 3.4 single core and 4GB of ram to go in it.  

So one way or annother my older AMD server is about to get an upgrade to a 64bit jobbie.

It kept me out of mischeif over the weekend.  ::) ::) :y :y
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: TheBoy on 22 September 2008, 08:27:21
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I'm using a Zalman CNPS9700 LED on my overclocked core 2 dual, and will keep it when I pop a quad in this autumn. Can definitely recommend the Zalman. If you are not overclocking then use a standard Intel.

Have fun

Pat
Oddly, I've found the Zalman fans to be desperately unreliable. And noisey after a while, so I tend to stick away from them now.

I don't overclock any more, stability is far more important than an extra squeeze of cpu - you would hate it if oof kept hanging..... ;)
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 22 September 2008, 08:39:12
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I'm using a Zalman CNPS9700 LED on my overclocked core 2 dual, and will keep it when I pop a quad in this autumn. Can definitely recommend the Zalman. If you are not overclocking then use a standard Intel.

Have fun

Pat
Oddly, I've found the Zalman fans to be desperately unreliable. And noisey after a while, so I tend to stick away from them now.

I don't overclock any more, stability is far more important than an extra squeeze of cpu - you would hate it if oof kept hanging..... ;)

Totally agree.  Every for rliaabilty these days.  I have a Zalman cooler like that, its still in its box allthough it is for an AMD.
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: TheBoy on 22 September 2008, 09:03:00
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I'm using a Zalman CNPS9700 LED on my overclocked core 2 dual, and will keep it when I pop a quad in this autumn. Can definitely recommend the Zalman. If you are not overclocking then use a standard Intel.

Have fun

Pat
Oddly, I've found the Zalman fans to be desperately unreliable. And noisey after a while, so I tend to stick away from them now.

I don't overclock any more, stability is far more important than an extra squeeze of cpu - you would hate it if oof kept hanging..... ;)

Totally agree.  Every for rliaabilty these days.  I have a Zalman cooler like that, its still in its box allthough it is for an AMD.
I've found the intel stock coolers to be the most reliable - never had one fail myself, and one ever seen one fail, and that was it belonged to a smoker, and it was clogged solid with that 'smokers dust' sticky stuff.
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 September 2008, 09:40:46
Rule is "the chain is as strong as its weakest part" (something similiar  ;D) whatever it is for those going after high spec pc components I strongly advice 15K RPM disks as the latency is half compared to 7200 disks..

Remember that any icon you click on your desktop is on your disk ;)
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: TheBoy on 22 September 2008, 11:18:58
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Rule is "the chain is as strong as its weakest part" (something similiar  ;D) whatever it is for those going after high spec pc components I strongly advice 15K RPM disks as the latency is half compared to 7200 disks..

Remember that any icon you click on your desktop is on your disk ;)
Disks are vitally important, and can easily destroy perfromance.  Take the OOF server for instance  :-X
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 September 2008, 11:22:14
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Rule is "the chain is as strong as its weakest part" (something similiar  ;D) whatever it is for those going after high spec pc components I strongly advice 15K RPM disks as the latency is half compared to 7200 disks..

Remember that any icon you click on your desktop is on your disk ;)
Disks are vitally important, and can easily destroy perfromance.  Take the OOF server for instance  :-X

Currently no problem with OOF server :y
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: TheBoy on 22 September 2008, 11:31:00
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Rule is "the chain is as strong as its weakest part" (something similiar  ;D) whatever it is for those going after high spec pc components I strongly advice 15K RPM disks as the latency is half compared to 7200 disks..

Remember that any icon you click on your desktop is on your disk ;)
Disks are vitally important, and can easily destroy perfromance.  Take the OOF server for instance  :-X

Currently no problem with OOF server :y
I'm glad it is not apparently affecting End Users currently  :-[
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 22 September 2008, 11:35:12
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Rule is "the chain is as strong as its weakest part" (something similiar  ;D) whatever it is for those going after high spec pc components I strongly advice 15K RPM disks as the latency is half compared to 7200 disks..

Remember that any icon you click on your desktop is on your disk ;)
Disks are vitally important, and can easily destroy perfromance.  Take the OOF server for instance  :-X

Currently no problem with OOF server :y
I'm glad it is not apparently affecting End Users currently  :-[

Sounds like you are in Baby sitting mode.  :-[
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: TheBoy on 22 September 2008, 11:41:20
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Rule is "the chain is as strong as its weakest part" (something similiar  ;D) whatever it is for those going after high spec pc components I strongly advice 15K RPM disks as the latency is half compared to 7200 disks..

Remember that any icon you click on your desktop is on your disk ;)
Disks are vitally important, and can easily destroy perfromance.  Take the OOF server for instance  :-X

Currently no problem with OOF server :y
I'm glad it is not apparently affecting End Users currently  :-[

Sounds like you are in Baby sitting mode.  :-[
Methinks a new disk controller will have to be bought very soon, but they are £400-£500  :'(

Nearly got a new base server a few weeks back, but they seem to have doubled in price  :'(
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 September 2008, 11:47:22
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Rule is "the chain is as strong as its weakest part" (something similiar  ;D) whatever it is for those going after high spec pc components I strongly advice 15K RPM disks as the latency is half compared to 7200 disks..

Remember that any icon you click on your desktop is on your disk ;)
Disks are vitally important, and can easily destroy perfromance.  Take the OOF server for instance  :-X

Currently no problem with OOF server :y
I'm glad it is not apparently affecting End Users currently  :-[

Sounds like you are in Baby sitting mode.  :-[
Methinks a new disk controller will have to be bought very soon, but they are £400-£500  :'(

Nearly got a new base server a few weeks back, but they seem to have doubled in price  :'(

What happened with the disk controller, have reliability issues or performance ?
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 22 September 2008, 11:53:00
Just out of curiosity. What spec is the OOF server.?  

Also what disk controller is it?
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: TheBoy on 22 September 2008, 11:58:19
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Rule is "the chain is as strong as its weakest part" (something similiar  ;D) whatever it is for those going after high spec pc components I strongly advice 15K RPM disks as the latency is half compared to 7200 disks..

Remember that any icon you click on your desktop is on your disk ;)
Disks are vitally important, and can easily destroy perfromance.  Take the OOF server for instance  :-X

Currently no problem with OOF server :y
I'm glad it is not apparently affecting End Users currently  :-[

Sounds like you are in Baby sitting mode.  :-[
Methinks a new disk controller will have to be bought very soon, but they are £400-£500  :'(

Nearly got a new base server a few weeks back, but they seem to have doubled in price  :'(

What happened with the disk controller, have reliability issues or performance ?
Performance. Crap Southbridge RAID.
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: TheBoy on 22 September 2008, 12:03:40
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Just out of curiosity. What spec is the OOF server.?  

Also what disk controller is it?
Intel Core2 Quad
4G RAM
Pair of 320G SATAs, now in RAID0 to get perfromance back up to usable standard :o (and yes, it is backed up very regularly!!)
Crap Southbridge RAID.
Windows 2003 R2 Server 64bit

There is other stuff, not just OOF running on it.


Need to get away from that RAID controller onto something worthwhile, and hence allow us to go back to fault tolerant disks.
Title: Re: Computer Help - Quad Core Cooler
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 September 2008, 12:03:41
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Rule is "the chain is as strong as its weakest part" (something similiar  ;D) whatever it is for those going after high spec pc components I strongly advice 15K RPM disks as the latency is half compared to 7200 disks..

Remember that any icon you click on your desktop is on your disk ;)
Disks are vitally important, and can easily destroy perfromance.  Take the OOF server for instance  :-X

Currently no problem with OOF server :y
I'm glad it is not apparently affecting End Users currently  :-[

Sounds like you are in Baby sitting mode.  :-[
Methinks a new disk controller will have to be bought very soon, but they are £400-£500  :'(

Nearly got a new base server a few weeks back, but they seem to have doubled in price  :'(

What happened with the disk controller, have reliability issues or performance ?
Performance. Crap Southbridge RAID.

Yep..replacement will be expensive :-/

however although I dont have any idea about the OOF internal database structure the high hit ratio sections like "CHAT" can be located on a seperate raid controller..As an idea.. if possible