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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: PaulW on 27 September 2008, 23:37:05
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Needless to say, its NOT going to be fun...
He has NO idea on what or how cars work... he passed his test last week and wants help choosing a first car...
I asked him has he had any thought on what he wants from the car, what kind of car he likes... This is the text I just got...
Something with 4 doors? Did an insurance check about a month ago but they want specific details on a particular car, like I already owned it. Am I right in saying the lower the number on the back, the cheaper the car is to run? In which case, I'm after the lowest number you can get, or however it works. Don't know what else there is to consider? Help!
Oh... My... God... :-?
I'm so tempted to recommend something French, and let him learn the hard way...
Any suggestions?? ;D
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How old is he?
How much does he want to spend?
Need that info before any suggestions :)
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He's 29 (or 28), one or the other...
Money - Asked him, and his response was 'well i could spend a little more i guess' but not said exactly how much, as he just said 'dont know', so looks like finance is an option...
Seriously... this is going to be a mission...
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hoping these will help
http://www.whatcar.co.uk/
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/motoring/buying/buyingguide/advice/3335.html
http://www.trustmymechanic.com/usedcarlist.html
http://www.moneystuff.net.au/Default.aspx?tabid=163
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hoping these will help
http://www.whatcar.co.uk/
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/motoring/buying/buyingguide/advice/3335.html
http://www.trustmymechanic.com/usedcarlist.html
http://www.moneystuff.net.au/Default.aspx?tabid=163
tried those... aswell as autotrader, still no bloomin idea!!
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Astra ? :-/
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Astra is possible, but I'm trying to think of something which will be reliable enough to be run 'into the ground' as I know for a fact it will not be serviced or maintained as well as it should be. He thought the howling of the SAI Pump on my Omega, aswell as the blowing manifold were 'normal' for cars...
Only thing I can think of in that way are older cars, but he wants something newer...
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Err 2.0 Omega of course
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Do his servicing for him.30% cheaper than a dealer.everyones happy. :y
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I think u are going to have to start off by taking him to a few dealers and letting him test drive cars so he gets a feel for what sort of car he wants. Its gonna be a painful process tho lol. Or just find a way of backing out of helping lolol. Most people learn the hard way i'm afraid, its far more meaningful rather than just being told :P
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Astra ? :-/
yep..logical..cheap to maintain :y
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Or if it is going to get neglected but still expected to run like clockwork,something japanese. :-/
My young sister in law just scrapped her diesel corsa and bought a petrol Fix It Again Tony :o she rang up 2 days later to say that it wasnt running properly,I told swinw to tell her I was out. ;) ;D
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Or if it is going to get neglected but still expected to run like clockwork,something japanese. :-/
nope..high initial cost.. expensive parts..
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Or if it is going to get neglected but still expected to run like clockwork,something japanese. :-/
nope..high initial cost.. expensive parts..
Plenty of scrapyards around Liverpool Cem. :y ;D
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Or if it is going to get neglected but still expected to run like clockwork,something japanese. :-/
nope..high initial cost.. expensive parts..
Plenty of scrapyards around Liverpool Cem. :y ;D
second hand parts for Toyota,Honda,Mazda prices 60-70% of original here :-/
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In scrapyards here - absolutely free...........but you run the risk of getting bit on the bum by a doberman at 3a.m. :y ;D ;D
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In scrapyards here - absolutely free...........but you run the risk of getting bit on the bum by a doberman at 3a.m. :y ;D ;D
:o
heaven ::) ::)
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buy some meat chops for doggies ;D
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Update - FAR less than 4k ;D
So most likely 1500 tops...
Old diesel astra here we come...
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VAUXHALL+ASTRA/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-12-240-4294966635-4294966969/advert.action?R=200839319789760&distance=19&postcode=CW84BX&channel=CARS&make=VAUXHALL&model=ASTRA&min_pr=&max_pr=1000&max_mileage=
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was thinking astra when i saw title, people have suggested astra and having read through still think astra! Had exactly this with my brother, been through a couple of cars, mazda 626, maf £380 new and rocking horse pooh from brakers. Then hg went, scraped that and got an astra! Loads of em in the breakers. So no problem with cheap parts.
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ideal first car...? if he has no clue, get a ford fiesta about 10 years old
my parents swear by them, they both have one each that are 10 years old, spent less than £500 to buy them and not had to spend a penny on repairs
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Update - FAR less than 4k ;D
So most likely 1500 tops...
Old diesel astra here we come...
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VAUXHALL+ASTRA/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-12-240-4294966635-4294966969/advert.action?R=200839319789760&distance=19&postcode=CW84BX&channel=CARS&make=VAUXHALL&model=ASTRA&min_pr=&max_pr=1000&max_mileage=
Insurance group 9!?! :o WTF!?! I had an estate one of those and it wasn't ins group nine, i'd want something with less miles....tho the diesel astras will go on forever, not great to drive by modern standards though.
My current astra 'G'/Mk4 1.7DTi is ins group 4 and so are the 1.6's, much better value.
Something with 4 doors and the 'lowest number on the back' is a bit of a contradiction! It won't won't haul it's own arse around with 4 people! Or if he does want that combo(!) a 1.0 3cyl 4dr corsa.
If he knows sweet f/a about cars you want something as new and reliable as poss, he won't thank you for finding him a rusty nail!
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1999-2000 1.6 16V Astra G....
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1999-2000 1.6 16V Astra G....
yep..much better and reliable..
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1999-2000 1.6 16V Astra G....
yep..much better and reliable..
;)
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Corsa or Astra 8 valve! Dont have anything fitted to go wrong! :y
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Corsa or Astra 8 valve! Dont have anything fitted to go wrong! :y
Other than head gaskets and water pumps........
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i would suggest an old crapper for a first car, run it for a year and then trade up......
I bought James a clit...yes i know its french, BUT, it is reliable and pretty tidy for a mid 90's car, there is less rust on it than you would get on a comparable astra/fiesta.
Insurace for the 2 of us (he's still not passed his test) is £385 TPFT
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i would suggest an old crapper for a first car, run it for a year and then trade up......
I bought James a clit...yes i know its french, BUT, it is reliable and pretty tidy for a mid 90's car, there is less rust on it than you would get on a comparable astra/fiesta.
Insurace for the 2 of us (he's still not passed his test) is £385 TPFT
Hence Astra G......get them for a grand or so now, reliable, well screwed togethe.....and 100% galvanised
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e.g.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1998-VAUXHALL-ASTRA-LS-16V-SILVER_W0QQitemZ120309690410QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120309690410&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A7%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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or for a little more
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-VAUXHALL-ASTRA-SXI-1-6-16V-3-DR-BLUE-46000-MILES_W0QQitemZ130258987564QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item130258987564&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A7%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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or for a little more
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-VAUXHALL-ASTRA-SXI-1-6-16V-3-DR-BLUE-46000-MILES_W0QQitemZ130258987564QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item130258987564&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A7%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Bloody hell you cant go wrong with that!!!!!!
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If its been sitting around for over a year, not doing much, then the brake discs may be rusted. Cars don't like just sitting around, they need to be moving so the airflow past/through them keeps water and condensation out.
Ken
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Get him a Mig... Speak to JueV6... He's got a couple spare :-X :-X :D :D
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Yes..., pullllleeeeeaaaaasssee speak to JueV6 lol, sure he'll do a deal about repairs lol :P
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Yes..., pullllleeeeeaaaaasssee speak to JueV6 lol, sure he'll do a deal about repairs lol :P
No good begging now.......... You've already hit the button :D :D
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lol, I need something like a government rescue of my bank account :P Maybe it could be nationalised as well?
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;D
I DARE you to bid on another mig... Just one! ::)
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I DARE you to bid on another mig... Just one! ::)
This one? clicky (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1998-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-ELITE-V6-AUTO-BLACK_W0QQitemZ180292482882QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180292482882&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A1|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14)
Or this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1998-S-Vauxhall-Omega-Elite-Repair-or-Spares_W0QQitemZ170265416374QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item170265416374&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A1|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14) one... I might be tempted myself actually... I like the interior!
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Naw lol, don't wanna cause the collapse of another bank :P U know me, intend to bid on one and end up bidding on three (only problem is I win them and deprive the rest of the world of bargain miggies - doesn't do ya karma any good)
And lazydocker.., if they tempt u.., u are paying waaaaay too much for your miggies lol. We got a 1998 3.0L Elite WITH LPG conversion for £400 lol.
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or for a little more
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-VAUXHALL-ASTRA-SXI-1-6-16V-3-DR-BLUE-46000-MILES_W0QQitemZ130258987564QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item130258987564&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A7%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Oi! No ebay links says forum rules!?! :P