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Title: Interesting read re: 99 RON petrol
Post by: Tony H on 11 December 2006, 19:49:38
http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/gcs_article.php?artid=64&typelink=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thorneymotorsport.co.uk%2Fgcs_article.php%3Ftype%3DNews%26subtitle%3D0%26title%3D0%26text%3D0%26toc%3D1 Link                                              
40 BHP or over 10% increase to a M3 csl when tested using 99 RON petrol   :o 8-) :y                                                              
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Del Boy on 11 December 2006, 21:26:56
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http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/gcs_article.php?artid=64&typelink=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thorneymotorsport.co.uk%2Fgcs_article.php%3Ftype%3DNews%26subtitle%3D0%26title%3D0%26text%3D0%26toc%3D1 Link                                              
40 BHP or over 10% increase to a M3 csl when tested using 99 RON petrol   :o 8-) :y                                                              

I'm gonna start using 99 again ;D
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: STMO123 on 11 December 2006, 21:40:11
Been using shell optimax for a while now. I thought I had more power but told myself I was imagining it. I should listen to myself more often :y
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: MikeDundee on 11 December 2006, 22:28:51
I am going to go the extra mile now to Tescos garage :y
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Chopsdad on 11 December 2006, 22:35:25
I run BP Ultimate for a treat - or when dragging my caravan and do notice gains in power and torque but i'll try Tesco if it's good enough for a CSL.  Will the higher burn not damage valve seats - don't know what that means but my dad always mentions it with high octane fuels.  :-/
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 11 December 2006, 22:38:27
I didn't notice any difference when using it in my V6 - but i DID notice a BIG drop in MPG compared to usual 95 ron.
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: MikeDundee on 11 December 2006, 22:41:23
Yeah BP Utimate  now and again, closer than tescos, but long term damage ?
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 December 2006, 08:39:19
Very unlikely to damage the valves and seats....the head cooling on the V6 is pretty good and modern valve seats are as hard as nails.

I suspect the 2.5 and 3.0 V6 will like the high octane fuel as they are pretty high compression....so could run more spark advance before pinking occurs. Note that it is likely to take time for the ECU to adjust the spark map.
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: bob.dent on 12 December 2006, 10:22:22
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I run BP Ultimate for a treat - or when dragging my caravan and do notice gains in power and torque but i'll try Tesco if it's good enough for a CSL.  Will the higher burn not damage valve seats - don't know what that means but my dad always mentions it with high octane fuels.  :-/

I've been using this all the time for last few months - definitely seems to perform better than on the cheaper supermarket fuels. Very slight improvement on fuel economy too, but only a couple of mpg.
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: nixoro on 12 December 2006, 10:34:39
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I didn't notice any difference when using it in my V6 - but i DID notice a BIG drop in MPG compared to usual 95 ron.

Perhaps you have a similar problem to me, a heavy right foot :y always hitting the go pedal ;D
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Martin_1962 on 12 December 2006, 10:37:37
I don't go below 97RON I think the car could easily have a higher CR to cope
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Salty on 12 December 2006, 11:42:02
Always used to run the Volvo on optimax, only started putting it the Meega recently.
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: hotel21 on 12 December 2006, 11:45:04
It certainly makes a difference to mine.  Car is more responsive on Opti or Vmax etc.  
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Salty on 12 December 2006, 11:47:38
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It certainly makes a difference to mine.  Car is more responsive on Opti or Vmax etc.  

It made a difference with the volvo as well. I intend to keep putting it in now  I've started
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: hotel21 on 12 December 2006, 11:49:23
Also tried it in the wifes 1.4 206.  No difference to speak of.  

The FJ1200 likes it though, for some reason!
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Salty on 12 December 2006, 11:52:02
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Also tried it in the wifes 1.4 206.  No difference to speak of.  

The FJ1200 likes it though, for some reason!

i think you need an engine that develops some power to be able to notice the difference ;)
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: hotel21 on 12 December 2006, 11:53:53
Yup, agreed.  Who is going to hit 500 first - thee or me?   ;)
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Salty on 12 December 2006, 11:56:47
Think you may just make it ;) could always try and manufacture a tie  :y
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: hotel21 on 12 December 2006, 11:57:58
Nah...  That would be cheatin'.

OOOOPPSS...  sorry,  burst the 500 bracket     ;)
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Lawman on 12 December 2006, 20:36:27
I sometimes put Optimax in my 1.4 8v....Car wasn't much quicker, but a lot more torquey and the engine ran as smooth as an 8v can!! haha  :D
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Markjay on 12 December 2006, 20:58:47
Been using BP Ultimate for the last year so.

What BT Ultimate and Shell V-Power (Optimax) claim is that the fuel contains detergents that help keep the fuel system and valves clean – as do additives such as Forte, STP, and Redex – and I am much more interested in this side of things, but I am not sure if Tesco also add detergents to the 99 fuel – does anyone know or seen them claim this anywhere?




Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Chopsdad on 12 December 2006, 22:27:26
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Been using BP Ultimate for the last year so.

What BT Ultimate and Shell V-Power (Optimax) claim is that the fuel contains detergents that help keep the fuel system and valves clean – as do additives such as Forte, STP, and Redex – and I am much more interested in this side of things, but I am not sure if Tesco also add detergents to the 99 fuel – does anyone know or seen them claim this anywhere?


Chopsmam recons our Tesco has 97 not 99 but she fills hers up with 95.  My first question was Eh? Wot is she doing noticing RON ratings & secondly could she be right?
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Markjay on 12 December 2006, 23:52:01
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Been using BP Ultimate for the last year so.

What BT Ultimate and Shell V-Power (Optimax) claim is that the fuel contains detergents that help keep the fuel system and valves clean – as do additives such as Forte, STP, and Redex – and I am much more interested in this side of things, but I am not sure if Tesco also add detergents to the 99 fuel – does anyone know or seen them claim this anywhere?


Chopsmam recons our Tesco has 97 not 99 but she fills hers up with 95.  My first question was Eh? Wot is she doing noticing RON ratings & secondly could she be right?

I think the answer is that most Tesco petrol stations have both 95 and 97, but few have also the 99.

Incidentally, the local Tesco's around here have Esso petrol stations, noy Tesco, and they only have 95, not even 97... So I buy BT Ultimate instead. At least I get Nectar points...  :)



Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Bo Bo on 13 December 2006, 00:51:59
I tried the BP Ultimate for a few tankfulls & did notice a very slight difference in performance, but not sure it's worth the extra...
Title: Re: Interesting read 99 RON petrol
Post by: Salty on 13 December 2006, 08:16:47
According to the data sheet shell V power is 99 ron I think optimax was 98 ron

http://www.imeche.org.uk/formulastudent/pdf/Shell%20V-Power%20Unleaded%202006%20Info%20Spec%20Sheet%20(Customer%20Version).pdf