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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: theolodian on 11 December 2006, 10:19:30
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I am often getting corrupt pages, or pages not loading in IE7. I hit F5 and everything is fine. Is there a setting for how long it waits for a page to load that I could make longer, or something else that I should do?
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I am often getting corrupt pages, or pages not loading in IE7. I hit F5 and everything is fine. Is there a setting for how long it waits for a page to load that I could make longer, or something else that I should do?
Donnow... my IE7 is no worst off than my previous IE6....
Try Java update perhaps?
Or all the usual FlashPlayer etc from Adobe...?
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I'm not gonna mention anything about Firefox (http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0&os=win&lang=en-GB) and IE Tabs (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1419/).... wait, damn!
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I'm not gonna mention anything about Firefox (http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0&os=win&lang=en-GB) and IE Tabs (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1419/).... wait, damn!
Firefox is by far the best browser - for those who cannot run IE... ;)
As I've said before, the web is built for IE6, so firefox struggles rendering a lot of pages. IE7 also struggles, so hopefully this may help firefox, esp now MS have almost 'conned' people into downloading IE7.
So for now, WIndows XP/IE6 combination is hard to beat for the majority of users. I personally remain unconvinced about IE7.
Firefox still a bit too niche (less than 5% of market on a large ISP, less than 10% here where there are a few IT techies).
Also, many IT techies are worried about the security of Firefox - more flaws in last few months than IE, and no real update strategy (something MS are really good at - and lets face it, they've had plenty of practice!)
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I don't have other problems, it just seems to time out/crash out a lot more when loading pages. Then it loads the same page fine the 2nd time.
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I don't have other problems, it just seems to time out/crash out a lot more when loading pages. Then it loads the same page fine the 2nd time.
Just here, or generally?
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I don't have other problems, it just seems to time out/crash out a lot more when loading pages. Then it loads the same page fine the 2nd time.
Just here, or generally?
Generally, especially US pages although comes up with the default page v quickly.
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I'm not gonna mention anything about Firefox (http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0&os=win&lang=en-GB) and IE Tabs (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1419/).... wait, damn!
Firefox is by far the best browser - for those who cannot run IE... ;)
As I've said before, the web is built for IE6, so firefox struggles rendering a lot of pages. IE7 also struggles, so hopefully this may help firefox, esp now MS have almost 'conned' people into downloading IE7.
So for now, WIndows XP/IE6 combination is hard to beat for the majority of users. I personally remain unconvinced about IE7.
Firefox still a bit too niche (less than 5% of market on a large ISP, less than 10% here where there are a few IT techies).
Also, many IT techies are worried about the security of Firefox - more flaws in last few months than IE, and no real update strategy (something MS are really good at - and lets face it, they've had plenty of practice!)
IE Tabs is a good firefox plugin - it enables you to switch over to IE rendering mode with a simple click, negating the need to switch from the browser we all know and love. I have tried IE7, and I must say, it's pretty pants. Interface is awful and as usual, to do anything on it is a long drawn out procedure, full of tight security that you have to manually disable. It's rubbish for new users, and annoying as hell for techies like myself and you. The only saving grace for IE7 is the use of tabs, which was ripped off Firefox and Opera anyway. What market are M$ aiming at with IE7?
The web is not built for IE6, only those sites and companies that do not invest enough time and/or money in the web side of development are made for IE6. And generally speaking, that is rapidly changing.
Remember, it is a free browser. I'd say they are doing incredibly well with updates and security fixes with that fact considered. MS just want ridiculous prices for all their stuff.
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The web is not built for IE6, only those sites and companies that do not invest enough time and/or money in the web side of development are made for IE6. And generally speaking, that is rapidly changing.
Most people are only going to want one browser.
With a few of the major banks insisting on IE, either deliberately, or by poor design, that makes up most people's mind, so IE wins. Obviously, many other sites are IE only as well, again probably due to poor design.
IE patching comes under the standard (and very good) Windows Update process, so tends to stay fully patched (except those scumbags too tight to pay for XP (which comes preinstalled on most machines anyway)). So for majority, IE wins again.
IE7, comes out with decent security, which is a good thing. Annoying, but a good idea. I don't like it (mainly due to rendering problems), due to sticking with it for over a year on Vista. But soon, I won't have a choice - only options will be IE7 or FF2, so again IE will win (slight lie, usually have both installed, but tend to only use one, except for testing)
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I agree on the security point. But to counter-point that, I think the bigger share Firefox gets, the better its updates and patching will be - being open source and all. Microsoft will only ever do it in-house, meaning it may one day lose this race.
I must say, I do like Windows, so I'm not totally MS bashing here. I just dislike their browser.
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I agree on the security point. But to counter-point that, I think the bigger share Firefox gets, the better its updates and patching will be - being open source and all. Microsoft will only ever do it in-house, meaning it may one day lose this race.
I must say, I do like Windows, so I'm not totally MS bashing here. I just dislike their browser.
wrt patching, you and I know what to do. People like my Mum, bless her, despite being really good with computers, won't do the updates, as is (rightly) suspicious of pop ups which say something needs to be downloaded and installed.
Open source does have its problems by its nature. Not just anyone can go through the code looking for faults, but also screwed CVS trees due to small changes made by one developer unexpectedly opening a hole elsewhere - generally (not always) open source projects do not have the tight leadership that a corporate company can. Additionally, the whole point of Open Source is to modify code, and this can open up another can of security related problems....
MS, for all their faults, have the best browser out there for Joe Public...
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I still disagree on that stigma, but it's hard to convince otherwise! ;)
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I still disagree on that stigma, but it's hard to convince otherwise! ;)
Sorry, by best, I didn't necessarily mean technically best/easiest to use/secure/comaptibility/branding/customising etc etc (though wins out on most of those), but meant its the best combined package for Mr Average.
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I have been running IE7 for about a month now, no problems to report.
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I think most people get used to what's put in front of them to start with, so MS tends to be joe publics choice.
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I think most people get used to what's put in front of them to start with, so MS tends to be joe publics choice.
Thats more like it.
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I think most people get used to what's put in front of them to start with, so MS tends to be joe publics choice.
True to an extent, though if that were the case, older AOL users would be still with Netscape.... ...many were forced to IE, as IE is what web is currently designed for....
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I think most people get used to what's put in front of them to start with, so MS tends to be joe publics choice.
True to an extent, though if that were the case, older AOL users would be still with Netscape.... ...many were forced to IE, as IE is what web is currently designed for....
Ahhh netscape >:(
I remember the days quite a few years ago when i used to design web pages......got em looking great in IE......then checked with netscape (as back then it was only IE and netscape about) and they looked pants.....had to go back and spend hours rejigging the code so IE and netscape looked the same >:(
Can also remember in my support days that ex Unix users forced to use a pc running windows....used to install netscape on it as thats what they were used to on unix machines......was a bloody pain trying to support netscape on a pc......so much in fact that....that the IT dept made a decision....anyone using netscape on a pc and got problems.....they had the choice....live with it....or if we turned up netscape would be uninstalled and IE put back on the pc .
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I think most people get used to what's put in front of them to start with, so MS tends to be joe publics choice.
True to an extent, though if that were the case, older AOL users would be still with Netscape.... ...many were forced to IE, as IE is what web is currently designed for....
Ahhh netscape >:(
I remember the days quite a few years ago when i used to design web pages......got em looking great in IE......then checked with netscape (as back then it was only IE and netscape about) and they looked pants.....had to go back and spend hours rejigging the code so IE and netscape looked the same >:(
Can also remember in my support days that ex Unix users forced to use a pc running windows....used to install netscape on it as thats what they were used to on unix machines......was a bloody pain trying to support netscape on a pc......so much in fact that....that the IT dept made a decision....anyone using netscape on a pc and got problems.....they had the choice....live with it....or if we turned up netscape would be uninstalled and IE put back on the pc .
OOOO you BOFH you. ;D
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Have to say, tried IE7 for a week. Hated it! Too many random crashes and pages failing to load. >:(
Went back to 6 (which is no mean feat to remove all of IE7!) and all is good and stable once more. :)
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Been using IE7 on this machine at work for about 8 months now I think in one of its beta forms or other, with each release it did become more stable. Now using the released version and seems to be very stable. Having said that I will probably find a new way to crash it now ;)
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I still think they have released IE7 a bit early, though understand they needed to get it out before consumer launch of Vista next month.
I think forcing on users via Windows Update is a bit harsh as well....
Notice they are actively pushing Media Player 11 now via Windows Update - that will piss off the people with non legal copies of XP....
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My idle fingers have just completed a reformat and reinstall of XP and all the updates etc. Amongst this lot was IE7 and is now working, it appears, quite well.
One niggle is posting on here (and elsewhere). When I hit the 'post' button, IE asks if I want to link this webpage to clipboard so that it can access it, or something similar. I do not wish to, click accordingly, and away it goes. But it asks again at each and every next post attempt. If I agree to allow to link, it asks again next time anyway!
Any idea on turning this off?
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My idle fingers have just completed a reformat and reinstall of XP and all the updates etc. Amongst this lot was IE7 and is now working, it appears, quite well.
One niggle is posting on here (and elsewhere). When I hit the 'post' button, IE asks if I want to link this webpage to clipboard so that it can access it, or something similar. I do not wish to, click accordingly, and away it goes. But it asks again at each and every next post attempt. If I agree to allow to link, it asks again next time anyway!
Any idea on turning this off?
Yes, setting in ie7 - allow programmatic access to clipboard...
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Thanks Jaime. Had a look at the settings tab and could find no trace of 'allow programmatic access to clipboard'. Am I looking in the correct place - tools/internet options/advanced ?
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Try tools/internet options/security settings and use the custom level button its in there
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Got it, thanks. So whats the recommended. Allow or disallow?
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Allow, if you disallow you won't be able to post!
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Thanks! :y
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Job done, but upto now I 'did not allow' and I still posted OK.
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Job done, but upto now I 'did not allow' and I still posted OK.
just tried it myself, if this appears it obviously works
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I can certainly read it, anyway ;D
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Have to say, tried IE7 for a week. Hated it! Too many random crashes and pages failing to load. >:(
Went back to 6 (which is no mean feat to remove all of IE7!) and all is good and stable once more. :)
Maybe a re-install of XP will fix the prob LB.....obviously summat not quite right going on there....ive been using IE7 for a couple of weeks and no probs :y
In fact installing it fixed my sound card problem :D
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Been using IE7 for a few weeks without any noticable probs so maybe something else is amiss LB.
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I put IE7 in as part of the updates on a fresh XP install (total rebuild). IE7 has not crashed, but constantly fails to load pages or loads gibberish. I like the tabs, but other than that it is junk.
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i think firefox may be for you then theo!
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i think firefox may be for you then theo!
Yeah, I may try that on the XP side of the Mini. Defo not putting IE7 on it. Wish Safari had tabs :(
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Hi Guys
I have had loads of trouble with both I6 & I7, for a few months now, been driving me mad. >:( Pages crashing mainly. Tried Firefox, along side I7. but found certain pages wouldnt load and then it took over the machine, so ditched it.
I decided to look harder at finding what was wrong with I7. I dont have IT background. Found this site really usefull.
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx
Turns out my problem was with add ons. Shut a couple down and so far okay :y I hope
I have gone from it crashing several times a day to working fine for a few days now, and sorted a couple of other small niggles as well.
Try the site and put a search in for your problem.