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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 October 2008, 20:02:02
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Now I know you are all a clever bunch here at OOF, but for the handful of our 4000 members who don't know who Draco was I will explain........Draco was a 7th Century BC Athenian Statesman who was best known, for believing in extemely harsh penalties, for any crime.
In fact for almost any crime however minor, Draco believed the penalty should be death. :o :o
A variation on his name in the form of the word "Draconian" is in common use today when we speak of something being particularly harsh or unbending.
So my question is, would Britain be a better place if Draco was in charge today?
I'm not sure myself, after all execution for dropping litter, or scrumping apples seems a little extreme to me..........but on the other hand :-/ :-? ::)
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The prisons are full, the courts are overloaded, the police can't catch the criminals because they're bogged down in paperwork.
BUT we can't just go round executing people. It may have been a suitable solution for 7th Century BC Athens, but it won't do for 21st Century Britain
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The prisons are full, the courts are overloaded, the police can't catch the criminals because they're bogged down in paperwork.
BUT we can't just go round executing people. It may have been a suitable solution for 7th Century BC Athens, but it won't do for 21st Century Britain
Hmmmmmmm....... :-/
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You say dropping litter is minor - the lowlifes in their corsas at McDonalds carpark who are too effing lazy to walk to bin, so open window and throw it all out...
...now, we don't need those thickos destroying the gene pool, do execution is the best option.
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The prisons are full, the courts are overloaded, the police can't catch the criminals because they're bogged down in paperwork.
BUT we can't just go round executing people. It may have been a suitable solution for 7th Century BC Athens, but it won't do for 21st Century Britain
Hmmmmmmm....... :-/
Gary Glitter??
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The prisons are full, the courts are overloaded, the police can't catch the criminals because they're bogged down in paperwork.
BUT we can't just go round executing people. It may have been a suitable solution for 7th Century BC Athens, but it won't do for 21st Century Britain
Hmmmmmmm....... :-/
Gary Glitter??
I bet the do-gooders - like that stupid bloody ugly bitch from liberty who the bbc invite on all the time - will see he just needs help.
The wrong end of a 12 bore shotgun on his gonads is all the help he needs.
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We need a new prison island! Australia MK2 ;D
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We need a new prison island! Australia MK2 ;D
Where they use it for target practice on bombing raids. ::)
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The prisons are full, the courts are overloaded, the police can't catch the criminals because they're bogged down in paperwork.
BUT we can't just go round executing people. It may have been a suitable solution for 7th Century BC Athens, but it won't do for 21st Century Britain
Talking about my country, here is a much worse copy..
Problem is system itself as theres no system, no plan..
if you make childrens like rabbits and dont have ability, capacity to educate (not only alphabet) , feed, build homes and find jobs and other necessary things you will end up with crime or terror by any means..
Rule is : no countries on earth have infinite sources..
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And back to subject ,I believe the laws (punishment) must be proportional with crime ..(whole my childhood passed in courthouses as family are all lawyers)..
And from my experiences I can say everybody have the possibility of making a crime at any moment if the necessary conditions occur..
if you were born in a different family and different environment its possible...
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And back to subject ,I believe the laws (punishment) must be proportional with crime ..(whole my childhood passed in courthouses as family are all lawyers)..
And from my experiences I can say everybody have the possibility of making a crime at any moment if the necessary conditions occur..
if you were born in a different family and different environment its possible...
You're too soft ;D
Kill 'em all - the world is over-populated. Harsh, but fair ;D
Obviously, creeping over the speed limit isn't a crime ::)
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And back to subject ,I believe the laws (punishment) must be proportional with crime ..(whole my childhood passed in courthouses as family are all lawyers)..
And from my experiences I can say everybody have the possibility of making a crime at any moment if the necessary conditions occur..
if you were born in a different family and different environment its possible...
You're too soft ;D
Kill 'em all - the world is over-populated. Harsh, but fair ;D
Obviously, creeping over the speed limit isn't a crime ::)
;D :y
Actually the definition of crime changes according to the absolute power who rules the community.. if you were under the laws lof lets say Stalin things would be so different ;D
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Execution may seem a bit harsh for some crimes.
However it should be a legal requirement for Vauxhall dealers who charge £75 per hour then get some spotty 17 year old kid to cross the threads and round of the nuts on our Omegas.
These dealers should be shot then ripped apart by wild horses......Draco....bit of a softy really. :y :y :y :y
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I never really liked that Malfoy kid!! ;D
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So my question is, would Britain be a better place if Draco was in charge today?.....
Better is a relative thing, IMO.
If we had, we may now still be residing in the dark ages that Draco knew and loved if his teaching methods had continued. Doubtless the 'gene pool' would be a lot shallower and more productive than it is now but, would it be as colourfull?
Bet there would be less doogooders and twin set and pearls social worker types though...... :-X
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The victims family always think the perpetrator "got off lightly"
The perpetrators family always think "the sentence was harsh"
The rightwing politician thinks "he should be punished"
The leftwing politician thinks "It's societies fault he's like that"
The accountant thinks "its not economically viable to lock him up"
The villager thinks "I don't want a prison built near me"
The pensioner thinks "If he's locked up I'm safer"
Just shows there is more than one viewpoint on everything .....
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The victims family always think the perpetrator "got off lightly"
The perpetrators family always think "the sentence was harsh"
The rightwing politician thinks "he should be punished"
The leftwing politician thinks "It's societies fault he's like that"
The accountant thinks "its not economically viable to lock him up"
The villager thinks "I don't want a prison built near me"
The pensioner thinks "If he's locked up I'm safer"
Just shows there is more than one viewpoint on everything .....
True... :'(
Probably spent too much time working in one of the 'comment' areas and not enough looking into the others.... ::)
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The victims family always think the perpetrator "got off lightly"
The perpetrators family always think "the sentence was harsh"
The rightwing politician thinks "he should be punished"
The leftwing politician thinks "It's societies fault he's like that"
The accountant thinks "its not economically viable to lock him up"
The villager thinks "I don't want a prison built near me"
The pensioner thinks "If he's locked up I'm safer"
Just shows there is more than one viewpoint on everything .....
You forgot:
TheBoy thinks they should be shot - making country less tax burdened, less unsightly buildings, and safer.
Remember, threats (prepared to be carried through) are the biggest deterent....
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The victims family always think the perpetrator "got off lightly"
The perpetrators family always think "the sentence was harsh"
The rightwing politician thinks "he should be punished"
The leftwing politician thinks "It's societies fault he's like that"
The accountant thinks "its not economically viable to lock him up"
The villager thinks "I don't want a prison built near me"
The pensioner thinks "If he's locked up I'm safer"
Just shows there is more than one viewpoint on everything .....
You forgot:
TheBoy thinks they should be shot - making country less tax burdened, less unsightly buildings, and safer.
Remember, threats (prepared to be carried through) are the biggest deterent....
Here here.
You could even MAKE money by charging people to carry out the execution, could turn it into a sport and do it paintball style ;D
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Oh how topics like this bringout the Daily Mail readers!
Are there enough lamposts & sufficient rope to go round?
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Oh how topics like this bringout the Daily Mail readers!
Are there enough lamposts & sufficient rope to go round?
Not that I read such tripe, but according to the Daily Mail, every single one of us like molesting small children, as we all use the Internet, so it follows we are all peados....
Not quite sure who the Daily Mail are backing these days, seems more and more like the BNP.
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Oh how topics like this bringout the Daily Mail readers!
Are there enough lamposts & sufficient rope to go round?
Think of the extra jobs generated in ropemaking industry. And all those streetlights the council turned off will still have a use :y
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The victims family always think the perpetrator "got off lightly"
The perpetrators family always think "the sentence was harsh"
The rightwing politician thinks "he should be punished"
The leftwing politician thinks "It's societies fault he's like that"
The accountant thinks "its not economically viable to lock him up"
The villager thinks "I don't want a prison built near me"
The pensioner thinks "If he's locked up I'm safer"
Just shows there is more than one viewpoint on everything .....
You forgot:
TheBoy thinks they should be shot - making country less tax burdened, less unsightly buildings, and safer.
Remember, threats (prepared to be carried through) are the biggest deterent....[/quote]
lots of draconian law in the 18th century TB.
Execution for almost any crime. Steal a loaf of bread and you hang....steal a sheep and you hang.
Did these draconian laws stop crime....you tell me.
Plenty of crime in the good old days. :-* :-* :-* :-*
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The victims family always think the perpetrator "got off lightly"
The perpetrators family always think "the sentence was harsh"
The rightwing politician thinks "he should be punished"
The leftwing politician thinks "It's societies fault he's like that"
The accountant thinks "its not economically viable to lock him up"
The villager thinks "I don't want a prison built near me"
The pensioner thinks "If he's locked up I'm safer"
Just shows there is more than one viewpoint on everything .....
You forgot:
TheBoy thinks they should be shot - making country less tax burdened, less unsightly buildings, and safer.
Remember, threats (prepared to be carried through) are the biggest deterent....[/quote]
lots of draconian law in the 18th century TB.
Execution for almost any crime. Steal a loaf of bread and you hang....steal a sheep and you hang.
Did these draconian laws stop crime....you tell me.
Plenty of crime in the good old days. :-* :-* :-* :-*
They probably had the same problem we had today. Stiff penalties, lots of publicity, but damn all chance of getting caught. >:(
Kevin
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lots of draconian law in the 18th century TB.
Execution for almost any crime. Steal a loaf of bread and you hang....steal a sheep and you hang.
Did these draconian laws stop crime....you tell me.
Plenty of crime in the good old days. :-* :-* :-* :-*
Eventually, you run out of criminals ::)
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The victims family always think the perpetrator "got off lightly"
The perpetrators family always think "the sentence was harsh"
The rightwing politician thinks "he should be punished"
The leftwing politician thinks "It's societies fault he's like that"
The accountant thinks "its not economically viable to lock him up"
The villager thinks "I don't want a prison built near me"
The pensioner thinks "If he's locked up I'm safer"
Just shows there is more than one viewpoint on everything .....
You forgot:
TheBoy thinks they should be shot - making country less tax burdened, less unsightly buildings, and safer.
Remember, threats (prepared to be carried through) are the biggest deterent....[/quote]
lots of draconian law in the 18th century TB.
Execution for almost any crime. Steal a loaf of bread and you hang....steal a sheep and you hang.
Did these draconian laws stop crime....you tell me.
Plenty of crime in the good old days. :-* :-* :-* :-*
yep..laws alone not sufficient to stop crime..thats a proven fact..
and another fact is the correlation between economy and crime rate..
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/strong-economy-drives-violent-crime-in-america-to-lowest-level-for-30-years-642429.html
http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2008/04/29/News/A.Link.Between.Economic.Troubles.And.Crime.Rates-3354542.shtml
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And back to subject ,I believe the laws (punishment) must be proportional with crime ..(whole my childhood passed in courthouses as family are all lawyers)..
And from my experiences I can say everybody have the possibility of making a crime at any moment if the necessary conditions occur..
if you were born in a different family and different environment its possible...
You're too soft ;D
Kill 'em all - the world is over-populated. Harsh, but fair ;D
Obviously, creeping over the speed limit isn't a crime ::)
Yep, the world is definitely over-populated, but we're already doing our best to solve that, aren't we?
We, the developed and developing nations, are converting the planet's resources to pollution at such a rate that we are going to change the climate, and all the poorer nations are going to be wiped out.
Of course, we mustn't take into consideration the fact that our medical, agricultural, scientific and engineering advances are the main reason why the world population is so high.
So, instead of slaughtering criminals, why don't we employ them to take out all the rich industrialists and research scientists so that we can revert to the civilisation (and population levels) they enjoyed in, for example, 7th Century BC Athens?
You know it makes sense...
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We need a new prison island! Australia MK2 ;D
Anglesea :y
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We need a new prison island! Australia MK2 ;D
Anglesea :y
Jon Argraig won't like that ;D
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Oh how topics like this bringout the Daily Mail readers!
Are there enough lamposts & sufficient rope to go round?
Think of the extra jobs generated in ropemaking industry. And all those streetlights the council turned off will still have a use :y[/quote]
I take it that you won't be giving your vote to the Liberal democrats at the next election then ;D ;D ;D :D
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We need a new prison island! Australia MK2 ;D
Anglesea :y
Jon Argraig won't like that ;D
He could be chief warder............... ;D ;D ;D