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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Martin_1962 on 13 October 2008, 16:17:52
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I need some tyres not sure what to get
Currently have Michelin Primacys at around 150 each
Want something well wearing and grippy around the 80 to 100 mark.
Any ideas please?
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I just bought a full set of Toyo Proxys on blackcircles.com £77.75 a corner if you use a discount code. Not done much mileage on them yet but feel great so far. :y
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I was paying about 125 - I forgot
but that is 200 saving on a set!
I'll try a pricematch at a local place
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Today had a bad experience with the clit springs..(or I must say I'm struggling more than 4 days ) approx £ 100 gone to bin.. :(
Buy a good brand and dont worry after..
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Eagle F1 new model and Bridgestone Adrenalin have good tests results..
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I need some tyres not sure what to get
Currently have Michelin Primacys at around 150 each
Want something well wearing and grippy around the 80 to 100 mark.
Any ideas please?
I recently had fitted Martin a full set of Avon (a brand I have used in the past on Carlton's, a Senator and Omega) ZZ3's at £396 all in.
Already I have noticed much improved road holding, at speed around corners in the wet, when with the previous budget tyres the rear end did start to wonder and had to be corrected. Road noise is very quiet and overall I am very happy with them giving me the performance I always enjoyed with Avon's :y :y
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I need some tyres not sure what to get
Currently have Michelin Primacys at around 150 each
Want something well wearing and grippy around the 80 to 100 mark.
Any ideas please?
I recently had fitted Martin a full set of Avon (a brand I have used in the past on Carlton's, a Senator and Omega) ZZ3's at £396 all in.
Already I have noticed much improved road holding, at speed around corners in the wet, when with the previous budget tyres the rear end did start to wonder and had to be corrected. Road noise is very quiet and overall I am very happy with them giving me the performance I always enjoyed with Avon's :y :y
I have the same as Lizzie 's tyres on my GLS, no problems or issues with them.
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Conti SportContact 2's are very good in my opinion, except they do wear quicker than others with them being such a soft compound, but the grip I can not fault.
Currently got Pirelli P6000's on the front though, there not bad, quite quiet! Do last longer than the conti's, but till have Conti's on the rear for the grip though, and the fact the rear doesn't seem to wear as much as the fronts, even when the geometry is spot on!
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Severe skintness had me very close to swapping the miggy for an old Pug 306 diesel the other day.
I recovered my senses - but the choice of 4 new tyres (and cat back exhaust) was forced upon me. MOT is due in 10 days so the cheapest option is required.
So, I bite the bullet and on go 4 Runways, fitted for £216.
They're not great grip wise and yet to be tested in the wet. They are surprisingly quiet. And the miggy still handles better than a 306 diesel :y
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I need some tyres not sure what to get
Currently have Michelin Primacys at around 150 each
Want something well wearing and grippy around the 80 to 100 mark.
Any ideas please?
I'd say stick with the mich, my MV6 runs 235's pilot prems and have been the mutts for the last four sets ive had, and they average 30k a set. Good in the wet and un-shiftable in the dry.
Never wanted for another tyre, and the pilot prems where designed for big saloon cars an particular. :y
Hope this helps.....
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Dunlop SP9000s for me, also use Conti SC2.
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I need some tyres not sure what to get
Currently have Michelin Primacys at around 150 each
Want something well wearing and grippy around the 80 to 100 mark.
Any ideas please?
I recently had fitted Martin a full set of Avon (a brand I have used in the past on Carlton's, a Senator and Omega) ZZ3's at £396 all in.
Already I have noticed much improved road holding, at speed around corners in the wet, when with the previous budget tyres the rear end did start to wonder and had to be corrected. Road noise is very quiet and overall I am very happy with them giving me the performance I always enjoyed with Avon's :y :y
Had ZZ3s on the tractor for a while, thought they were awful. got 4k from them, and, tbh, glad to get rid of them. Saying that, the budget Nexen CP641 have only managed 6k, probably only 2k left....
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I need some tyres not sure what to get
Currently have Michelin Primacys at around 150 each
Want something well wearing and grippy around the 80 to 100 mark.
Any ideas please?
I recently had fitted Martin a full set of Avon (a brand I have used in the past on Carlton's, a Senator and Omega) ZZ3's at £396 all in.
Already I have noticed much improved road holding, at speed around corners in the wet, when with the previous budget tyres the rear end did start to wonder and had to be corrected. Road noise is very quiet and overall I am very happy with them giving me the performance I always enjoyed with Avon's :y :y
Had ZZ3s on the tractor for a while, thought they were awful. got 4k from them, and, tbh, glad to get rid of them. Saying that, the budget Nexen CP641 have only managed 6k, probably only 2k left....
My Nexens have been fine, but then you can see how I drive in my other post. ::)
I find Conti's go hard and are pants in the wet. OTOH, Nexens are never great wet or dry.
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I need some tyres not sure what to get
Currently have Michelin Primacys at around 150 each
Want something well wearing and grippy around the 80 to 100 mark.
Any ideas please?
I recently had fitted Martin a full set of Avon (a brand I have used in the past on Carlton's, a Senator and Omega) ZZ3's at £396 all in.
Already I have noticed much improved road holding, at speed around corners in the wet, when with the previous budget tyres the rear end did start to wonder and had to be corrected. Road noise is very quiet and overall I am very happy with them giving me the performance I always enjoyed with Avon's :y :y
Had ZZ3s on the tractor for a while, thought they were awful. got 4k from them, and, tbh, glad to get rid of them. Saying that, the budget Nexen CP641 have only managed 6k, probably only 2k left....
My Nexens have been fine, but then you can see how I drive in my other post. ::)
I find Conti's go hard and are pants in the wet. OTOH, Nexens are never great wet or dry.
My Nexens are OK in dry, but then the tractor ain't the quickest car... ...OK in the wet until recently, but think I have found out why its been tail happy recently. Omegatoy probably knows as well ;D
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My Nexens are OK in dry, but then the tractor ain't the quickest car... ...OK in the wet until recently, but think I have found out why its been tail happy recently. Omegatoy probably knows as well ;D
A touch of 4 wheel steer? Or have you been lubricating the tarmac again? ;)
Kevin
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My Nexens are OK in dry, but then the tractor ain't the quickest car... ...OK in the wet until recently, but think I have found out why its been tail happy recently. Omegatoy probably knows as well ;D
A touch of 4 wheel steer? Or have you been lubricating the tarmac again? ;)
Kevin
Handling conincided with a higher diesel usage, not recorded by MID ::)
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I find Michelins bloody awful (thankfuly I got rid of the last pair of these a few weeks ago!). Certainly not worth the stupidly high price tag!
Also beware of Avons, they seem to suffer as they wear (as advised by more than one member!).
Currently running Dunlops which seem very good (and a good price) but have had good results from Contis and Uniroyals in the past on the Omega
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So far - discounting weird brands
Toyo Proxys +1
Avon ZZ3 +2 -2
Conti SportContact 2 +2
Pirelli P6000 +1
Dunlop SP9000 +2
Michelin Primacy +1 -1
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I have Pirelli P7s seem to last very well - bit pricey though.. :y
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Had Toyos on the CDX, this doesn't get the MV6 treatment and they bearly made 12k, now got a set of Verdesteins on there that cost me £376 all in, seem ok so far, but then done less than 1K on them
Had ZZ3's and ZV3's, the ZV's lasted better than the ZZ's but still only 10k out of a set.
Falken's were sh1te like driving on ice!!
Got a couple of Pirelli P7 Neros (as i know one of the Pirelli UK customer service reps and got 65% discount!!) these have worn very quickly over the first 6K, but this apparently is the tyre design, the last third of the tread is alot harder, wouldn't pay retail for them.
To be honest the ZV3's are prob the best i have had
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Fitted Pirelli P6000 all round a few months back because the last set were OK and lasted for about 25,000. Just over £100 each plus fitting from my local garage. I don't thrash the car and don't take chances in the wet, so I can't really comment on grip, but I've never had any sort of skid or slide in this car, so they must be OK.
The P6000s were a vast improvement on the mix and match cheapo rubbish that the last owner had on the car. >:(
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At the end of the day Martin, you can read everyone elses personal experiences saying this XXX brand is really good or XXX brand is really pants but at the end of the day its you who needs the new set, It may be worth finding out what the car was originally fitted with when it first rolled out of the factory, the manufactuars dont usually get the choice to far wrong.
Let us know what you went for, be interesting. :y
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At the end of the day Martin, you can read everyone elses personal experiences saying this XXX brand is really good or XXX brand is really pants but at the end of the day its you who needs the new set, It may be worth finding out what the car was originally fitted with when it first rolled out of the factory, the manufactuars dont usually get the choice to far wrong.
Let us know what you went for, be interesting. :y
Lol, two issues here:
The manufacturers tend to use which ever supplier is doing the best price that year.
The tyre suppliers dont supply the standard rubber you can buy in the aftermarket!
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At the end of the day Martin, you can read everyone elses personal experiences saying this XXX brand is really good or XXX brand is really pants but at the end of the day its you who needs the new set, It may be worth finding out what the car was originally fitted with when it first rolled out of the factory, the manufactuars dont usually get the choice to far wrong.
Let us know what you went for, be interesting. :y
Lol, two issues here:
The manufacturers tend to use which ever supplier is doing the best price that year.
The tyre suppliers dont supply the standard rubber you can buy in the aftermarket!
yep..exactly..unless you buy a Porche or Bentley or a Ferrari ;D
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At the end of the day Martin, you can read everyone elses personal experiences saying this XXX brand is really good or XXX brand is really pants but at the end of the day its you who needs the new set, It may be worth finding out what the car was originally fitted with when it first rolled out of the factory, the manufactuars dont usually get the choice to far wrong.
Let us know what you went for, be interesting. :y
Lol, two issues here:
The manufacturers tend to use which ever supplier is doing the best price that year.
The tyre suppliers dont supply the standard rubber you can buy in the aftermarket!
Who does then?
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At the end of the day Martin, you can read everyone elses personal experiences saying this XXX brand is really good or XXX brand is really pants but at the end of the day its you who needs the new set, It may be worth finding out what the car was originally fitted with when it first rolled out of the factory, the manufactuars dont usually get the choice to far wrong.
Let us know what you went for, be interesting. :y
Lol, two issues here:
The manufacturers tend to use which ever supplier is doing the best price that year.
The tyre suppliers dont supply the standard rubber you can buy in the aftermarket!
Who does then?
They DO, BUT the tyre supplier should check what vehicle its for and get the correct tyres!!
Pirelli's oem marking for GM is a 'squiggle', so look on the side wall if its got a squiggle its a GM oem tyre, if its got a star its BMW, F is for Ford, A is Audi/ VW and N is for Porsche.
If you mix two different OEM tyres, although the same same size/ load rating/ speed rating it could totally cock up the cars handling.
Aparrently most of the issues with tyre wear is because the replacements are not the oem ones, because the tyre fitters are too lazy to do their job!!
Hopefully that clears that all up :)
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At the end of the day Martin, you can read everyone elses personal experiences saying this XXX brand is really good or XXX brand is really pants but at the end of the day its you who needs the new set, It may be worth finding out what the car was originally fitted with when it first rolled out of the factory, the manufactuars dont usually get the choice to far wrong.
Let us know what you went for, be interesting. :y
Lol, two issues here:
The manufacturers tend to use which ever supplier is doing the best price that year.
The tyre suppliers dont supply the standard rubber you can buy in the aftermarket!
A fact that was highlighted when Mr. & Mrs. KW senior bought a new Corsa a year or so ago, and had a blowout on one of the tyres after a couple of hundred miles. Problem was found to be a faulty tyre but the stealers took rather ages to replace it and insisted that a replacement be shipped in from Germany rather than sending it down to muppet fit &co up the road with a cheque for 75 quid.
Kevin
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i must be the only person on here that uses goodyear NCT5 or excellence tyres. At £85 they are a reasonable price last a resonable distance and are very good in both the wet and dry. Cannot see that a michelin tyre is worth almost twice as much.
We used them on police omegas and when there was a shortage of them we used dunlops. they made the car very unpredictable in the wet.
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First time round I bought 4 Contis at £150 per corner. I was impressed with the tyre, though not with the price... they lasted a long time though.
Second time a round I bought 4 Michelin for £120 each. Sadly I sold the car shortly afterwards with the 4 new Michelins.
For my new car I got Dunlop FastResponse from blackcircle.co.uk for around £70 each. Good price, good service, and decent tyres (came highly rated on the German ADAK website).
However, price being equal, my money would be on the Contis.
Hope this helps.
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i must be the only person on here that uses goodyear NCT5 or excellence tyres. At £85 they are a reasonable price last a resonable distance and are very good in both the wet and dry. Cannot see that a michelin tyre is worth almost twice as much.
We used them on police omegas and when there was a shortage of them we used dunlops. they made the car very unpredictable in the wet.
My current car came originally fitted with NCT5s. I can't comment on their performance because they were worn and I changed them. But the German ADAK did not like them much... :-/
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First time round I bought 4 Contis at £150 per corner. I was impressed with the tyre, though not with the price... they lasted a long time though.
Second time a round I bought 4 Michelin for £120 each. Sadly I sold the car shortly afterwards with the 4 new Michelins.
For my new car I got Dunlop FastResponse from blackcircle.co.uk for around £70 each. Good price, good service, and decent tyres (came highly rated on the German ADAK website).
However, price being equal, my money would be on the Contis.
Hope this helps.
You were ripped off on the Contis!
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Couple of things I would like to add.
Mileage's for a set of tyre's will vary between members as the driving habbits will also be different. (Lets face it, you dont buy the MV6 version if tou want the encomy and performance of a 2.2 tractor)
Also I have noticed I dont drive the Auto's as hard as I would do with a manual, whether it's just me I dont know.
Of the 2 cars I have the 2.5 has ZV3's all round and purchaed by me, but the car has only done 6000 miles in 2 years. Gets driven hard on occasions, can easily provoke wheel spin from a bend with the right buttons pushed, but not as yet had them break contact with the road under harsh driving in the wet or dry (Harsh but not reackless driving)
The 3.0 Elite has 2 different pairs fitted by previous owner (Makes unknown at this point) But I expect the tyres to last a lot longer as I drive the car completly different to the other. (Maybe it's coz the exhaust doesnt sound like an F1 car on full throttle like the other one. ;D ;D ;D)(and I dont use the Sport Mode as often ::) ::))
When I do replace tyres, I allways fit them in pairs and allways put them on the rear, moving old tyres to the front, if there is any odd wear on the fronts I allways put the rear with the least tread to replace it, till the tracking gets done.
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First time round I bought 4 Contis at £150 per corner. I was impressed with the tyre, though not with the price... they lasted a long time though.
Second time a round I bought 4 Michelin for £120 each. Sadly I sold the car shortly afterwards with the 4 new Michelins.
For my new car I got Dunlop FastResponse from blackcircle.co.uk for around £70 each. Good price, good service, and decent tyres (came highly rated on the German ADAK website).
However, price being equal, my money would be on the Contis.
Hope this helps.
You were ripped off on the Contis!
I know.... :'(
That was some years ago now, one of my front tyres was down to the canvas on the inside (that as before WIM's time...), and I felt compelled to change tyres there and then. The culprit was the local National outlet near where I live. What is even more annoying was that the price supposedly included a '10% discount' because I bought 4 tyres... >:( Still, it was before the days when tyres where available online, so comparing prices was difficult and time=-consuming.
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I have noted some unfavourable comment about the Avon ZZ3's as I in fact have recently had put on.
Although I obviously have not been able to undertake any real mileage on them yet, all I can say is I used Avon tyres of my company and private cars (as Rolls Royce and Bentley did at least then) getting regularly 30K+ per set. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) .........and I didn't exactly travel at slow speeds in those days, beit motorway, 'A' road or country road! :D ;) So my tyres were well tested, and I found Avons superior to Michellins which the company were quite happy for me to buy instead! 8-) 8-)
I will of course now monitor my latest purchase and see how the Avon ZZ3's last ;)
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I have noted some unfavourable comment about the Avon ZZ3's as I in fact have recently had put on.
Put some on the front of my miggy on a previous drift event in the rain.
The place was soaked, standing water everywere.........had to be extreeeeeeeeemly viscous to get the buggers to slide in unison with the rears.
I know I can't argue with that, so take it from me.....good choice :y
Lasted well to, like you said 8-)
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I have noted some unfavourable comment about the Avon ZZ3's as I in fact have recently had put on.
Put some on the front of my miggy on a previous drift event in the rain.
The place was soaked, standing water everywere.........had to be extreeeeeeeeemly viscous to get the buggers to slide in unison with the rears.
I know I can't argue with that, so take it from me.....good choice :y
Lasted well to, like you said 8-)
Makes you wonder how TheBoy only gets 4K from a set of Avons driving a TRACTOR ::) ::) and his MV6 bending all the rims ::) ::) ::) ::)
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In Switzerland the choice (my own) seems to go between Kuhmo, Hankook or Fulda if considering value for money as main factor. Pirelli P7 looks to be top tire but still much cheaper than mich/bridgestone/conti etc. It has received top reviews in number of tests. Am not particularly happy with michelins i have right now - certanly not worth the money
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Hankook last forever but crap..Kumho : except their winter tires :-X
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I have noted some unfavourable comment about the Avon ZZ3's as I in fact have recently had put on.
Put some on the front of my miggy on a previous drift event in the rain.
The place was soaked, standing water everywere.........had to be extreeeeeeeeemly viscous to get the buggers to slide in unison with the rears.
I know I can't argue with that, so take it from me.....good choice :y
Lasted well to, like you said 8-)
Thanks Woodsy!! :y :y
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Hankook last forever but crap..
It reminds me of Marshals I had on a Renault 19 some years ago. I was looking forward to the day when they would be shot
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The Conti's have changed
Now SC3 not 2.
And they are not as grippy :( And both cars are wearing them.
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Oh bum just ordered 4 Contis for £340 :(
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Trust me , you will not regret..
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A good price for 4 contis!
Note also I have not seen the SC3 in the 16 inch wheel size yet.....still all PC2's.
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A good price for 4 contis!
Note also I have not seen the SC3 in the 16 inch wheel size yet.....still all PC2's.
They seemed surprised!
They are a fitting agent for e tyres and will undercut if you go direct :-X
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I bought my Elite to cover 20k/25k business miles per year, mostly motorway miles. I had a limited budget so fitted x4 Nankang NS2s 225/55/16v £240 all in, over the past 3 1/2 years the mileage has gone from 70k to 150k ie 80,000 miles, the rear tyres have covered 35k (2mm left) fronts 18k (not half worn). Yes I am careful in the wet, but noise is low and wear good. look on 'mytyres.co.uk' for prices and more importantly 'test results' some tyres manufactures results may surprise you.
regards
richard a