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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: LaserLance on 18 October 2008, 21:17:03
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Lizzie and rest of you steam engine nuts have you been watching the programs on bb4 about the the new A1 class engine ?
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there was also a centre page spread,article about it in the "unmentionable newspaper" today.
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I have and also the general BBC4 'theme' on railways that`s been on lately; all brilliant!
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Yep, here up north we know how to build propper trains ;D ;D ;D :y
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Been watching them all - slowly watching them on my two PVRs.
Railway Walks is good too - best one for me the Cornish one
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Yep, all sat on the hard disk.....all very good and interesting.
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Yep, here up north we know how to build propper trains ;D ;D ;D :y
Oi what about Swindon!
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B011ux! Didn't spot them. :'(
Hope they'll repeat them.
Kevin
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Some are on iplayer
Some are getting repeated
Why do so many members on this forum like railways?
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Age / Nostalgia ::) ::) ::)
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I thought this was a thread about rover 'k' series engines :-[
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Yep, here up north we know how to build propper trains ;D ;D ;D :y
Oi what about Swindon!
what about swindon? great way round...ha ha
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Yep, here up north we know how to build propper trains ;D ;D ;D :y
Oi what about Swindon!
what about swindon? great way round...ha ha
Don't you realise that every night loads of GWR enthusiasts pray in that direction to the memory of IK Brunel ;D
A few of my favourite classes come from there
Castles
9F
Rest come from Newton Le Willows
55
50
37
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Yep, here up north we know how to build propper trains ;D ;D ;D :y
Oi what about Swindon!
what about swindon? great way round...ha ha
Don't you realise that every night loads of GWR enthusiasts pray in that direction to the memory of IK Brunel ;D
A few of my favourite classes come from there
Castles
9F
Rest come from Newton Le Willows
55
50
37
Yeh, but when did you build you last one though :P
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strictly a midland man myself but must admit i do have an affection for the old somerset & dorset, wot a luverly line it would be if it were all there now. :y
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strictly a midland man myself but must admit i do have an affection for the old somerset & dorset, wot a luverly line it would be if it were all there now. :y
Got two Peter Smith books and two Ivo Peters videos
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AM a bit of a philistine when it comes to steam trains ,but i did enjoy it , more of a guns ,tanks and plane person meself , must be something to do with being brought up in a army camp till i was 16 ;D ;D
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ahh peter & donald, what a great engine duo on the S&D. really enjoyed the programs years ago. Ivo peters, well say no more, for the photography, brilliant. :y
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ahh peter & donald, what a great engine duo on the S&D. really enjoyed the programs years ago. Ivo peters, well say no more, for the photography, brilliant. :y
The books are excellent and the RailScene Videos good, I transferred mine to DVD, pretty good copies too - well I do have around 30 pre recorded railway videos on Beta
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AM a bit of a philistine when it comes to steam trains ,but i did enjoy it , more of a guns ,tanks and plane person meself , must be something to do with being brought up in a army camp till i was 16 ;D ;D
my dad & grandad both worked at derby loco works, so you could say its in my blood, i carried the trend on by driving steam road engines. great fun. :y
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Some are on iplayer
Some are getting repeated
Why do so many members on this forum like railways?[/quote]
Because Martin the members of this forum appreciate a truly great machine and the mechanical process that makes it convert power efficiently into motion.
The major steam railway engine classes were the absolute perfect contemporary display of steam technology at its best, as the Omega we believe is such a machine of our age, all beit 1990s design technology. :y :y
That's my take on it anyway, quite apart from a large part of nostalga that haunts us steam fans and us Senator / Omega devotees!! :D ;)
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well said lizzie. :y
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Yeah , I dropped Bobski the Builder on Thursday night for "The last days of Steam " on ITV4 .
Very interesting fact emerged that at peak there was circa 2500 steam locomotives of all types in use up and down the country ,today there are still over 1300 operational in UK. :y
I laughed at the part where it showed footage of three young teenagers from Southall who successfully bought a soon to be scrapped but still operational Loco for £650 (+£50 delivery) from BR and proceeded to run it up and down a 100 yard stretch of line in what looked like a private factory. These lads went on to form Didcot preservation railway.
Very entertaining.
Don
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st rolox
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Yeah , I dropped Bobski the Builder on Thursday night for "The last days of Steam " on ITV4 .
Very interesting fact emerged that at peak there was circa 2500 steam locomotives of all types in use up and down the country ,today there are still over 1300 operational in UK. :y
I laughed at the part where it showed footage of three young teenagers from Southall who successfully bought a soon to be scrapped but still operational Loco for £650 (+£50 delivery) from BR and proceeded to run it up and down a 100 yard stretch of line in what looked like a private factory. These lads went on to form Didcot preservation railway.
Very entertaining.
Don
In 1958 Olympia, the year before the last time the trains in the BR timetable was completely steam hauled, there were 16,108 steam locomotives in operation across the country. As even more were still being built (last was 9F "Evening Star" in 1960) the scrappers, who had always been cutting redundant, obsolete loco's, really started to destroy the BR steam fleet under the 1955 Modernisation Plan. ;) ;)
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I stand corrected Lizzie .
Don
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I stand corrected Lizzie .
Don
;D ;D ;D ;D :y
Ok Don, but it is great to know there is yet another oof member who is interested in the great British steam railway of the past and the wonderful progress that the modern railway preservation movement has made :y :y :y :y :y :y
So many great locomotives have been saved by determined passion, much money along with tremendously hard work, sweat and tears which included the rescue of about 213 locomotives out of a peak of about 225 collected together at the famous Barry scrapyard of Dai Woodham (God rest this wonderful man's soul) by 1968. Although still a fair percentage have still to be restored to working condition, they are still around and every so often another appears like a phoenix rising from the literal ashes of the past.
The next example of this is GWR "Castle" Class 5043 "Earl of Mount Edgcumbe to be soon steamed at Tysley, by 25th October all be in well, after last hauling a train on the 16th December 1963, spending 9 years 2 months at Barry before being purchased for preservation in 1972. Yet another fine example of pure grit and detirmination to keep great engines alive! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-):y :y :y :y :y
I wonder if a vast amount of our miggies will still exist in 40 years time due to preservationists? :-? :-?
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And for those who are not famaliar with the "Barry Scene", perhaps being too young to remember it, this is how it appeared in 1968 a few years before even I was able to make a pilgrimage to this 'holly' site with some friends and my ex from the Mid Hants Railway.
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Barry.png)
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I've been to Barry - saw D601 Ark Royal and D6122 both last survivors of their classes and some of the few scrapped at Barry
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I've been to Barry - saw D601 Ark Royal and D6122 both last survivors of their classes and some of the few scrapped at Barry
Yes and they were very regrettably cut up!! :'( :'( :'(
Another one of those missed preservation opportunties, as I believe no "Warship" class diesel now exists?
One of them pulled the "Torbay Express" I travelled on in 1961 after previously it had always been steamed hauled when I had been on it during 1960. ;)
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I've been to Barry - saw D601 Ark Royal and D6122 both last survivors of their classes and some of the few scrapped at Barry
Yes and they were very regrettably cut up!! :'( :'( :'(
Another one of those missed preservation opportunties, as I believe no "Warship" class diesel now exists?
One of them pulled the "Torbay Express" I travelled on in 1961 after previously it had always been steamed hauled when I had been on it during 1960. ;)
Both last survivors - I think I will try to get a Dapol D600 when released
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This post inspired me to take a trip to Alton this afternoon with the camera. I thought you might like some pics...
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/Steaming%20up%20640.jpg)
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/All%20steamed%20up%20640.jpg)
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/Last%20call%20640.jpg)
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Absolutely superb Bandit!! Many thanks!! :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
Have I got your permission please to copy and store these excellent photo's? :-?
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Absolutely superb Bandit!! Many thanks!! :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
Have I got your permission please to copy and store these excellent photo's? :-?
Of course, be my guest.
I don't usually pimp my website on here ( ::)) but if you want them, there are bigger versions at http://www.bandit127.com/pictures/index.htm, at the bottom of the gallery. Click on a thumbnail for a 1600 wide version. Help yourself :y
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By the way Bandit West Country Class 34007 "Wadebridge" has been put up for sale by its owner. 8-) 8-)
The Mid Hants Railway is aiming to purchase it and just needs a further £150,000 to do so. ;)
They are looking for donations - £100 or £250, entitling the giver to either family ticket for travel on the line to a footplate ride! 8-) 8-)
How do you fancy that eh? ;D ;D ;)
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Absolutely superb Bandit!! Many thanks!! :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
Have I got your permission please to copy and store these excellent photo's? :-?
Of course, be my guest.
I don't usually pimp my website on here ( ::)) but if you want them, there are bigger versions at http://www.bandit127.com/pictures/index.htm, at the bottom of the gallery. Click on a thumbnail for a 1600 wide version. Help yourself :y
Great!! Thanks a lot!! :y :y :y :y
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This post inspired me to take a trip to Alton this afternoon with the camera. I thought you might like some pics...
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/Steaming%20up%20640.jpg)
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/All%20steamed%20up%20640.jpg)
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/Last%20call%20640.jpg)
You should have popped in and said Hello.
I thought I heard Bittern passing today. :-* Just doesn't sound as stressed climbing up to 4 marks.
Kevin
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This post inspired me to take a trip to Alton this afternoon with the camera. I thought you might like some pics...
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/Steaming%20up%20640.jpg)
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/All%20steamed%20up%20640.jpg)
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/Last%20call%20640.jpg)
You should have popped in and said Hello.
I thought I heard Bittern passing today. :-* Just doesn't sound as stressed climbing up to 4 marks.
Kevin
You haven't lent the Tech2 to the Railway have you Kevin?? ;D ;D ;D ;)
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You haven't lent the Tech2 to the Railway have you Kevin?? ;D ;D ;D ;)
Couldn't find the diag socket. :(
Kevin
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You haven't lent the Tech2 to the Railway have you Kevin?? ;D ;D ;D ;)
Couldn't find the diag socket. :(
Kevin
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
That's a surprise!! ;D ;D ;D :D ;)
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By the way Bandit West Country Class 34007 "Wadebridge" has been put up for sale by its owner. 8-) 8-)
The Mid Hants Railway is aiming to purchase it and just needs a further £150,000 to do so. ;)
They are looking for donations - £100 or £250, entitling the giver to either family ticket for travel on the line to a footplate ride! 8-) 8-)
How do you fancy that eh? ;D ;D ;)
Now that's the way to do it! If I had a young son I'd be very interested in donating 250 for a footplate ride. :y
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This post inspired me to take a trip to Alton this afternoon with the camera. I thought you might like some pics...
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/Steaming%20up%20640.jpg)
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/All%20steamed%20up%20640.jpg)
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/Last%20call%20640.jpg)
You should have popped in and said Hello.
I thought I heard Bittern passing today. :-* Just doesn't sound as stressed climbing up to 4 marks.
Kevin
I assume the Bittern is a sister train to the mallard ? as i said earleir im a philistine when it comes to trains :) :)
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This post inspired me to take a trip to Alton this afternoon with the camera. I thought you might like some pics...
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/Steaming%20up%20640.jpg)
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/All%20steamed%20up%20640.jpg)
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/Last%20call%20640.jpg)
You should have popped in and said Hello.
I thought I heard Bittern passing today. :-* Just doesn't sound as stressed climbing up to 4 marks.
Kevin
I assume the Bittern is a sister train to the mallard ? as i said earleir im a philistine when it comes to trains :) :)
Yes, sister A4 class engine :y :y :y :y
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By the way Bandit West Country Class 34007 "Wadebridge" has been put up for sale by its owner. 8-) 8-)
The Mid Hants Railway is aiming to purchase it and just needs a further £150,000 to do so. ;)
They are looking for donations - £100 or £250, entitling the giver to either family ticket for travel on the line to a footplate ride! 8-) 8-)
How do you fancy that eh? ;D ;D ;)
I do fancy it. I suppose my £1.40 for a coffee and a packet of biscuits falls a bit short then...? :(
Seeing Wadebridge was good, but I have to say the Gresley A4 was very impressive. They were the Daddy in their day.
Kevin - I would have popped in but I set off on the spur of the moment, camera in hand and 'shortest route' plugged in to the Tom Tom. Excellent drive there and back in the MV6. I can see why you have a Westfield.
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really nice pics, bought memories back of my time down in alton working at the bass brewery. :y
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Just stumbled across tonight's BBC4 about the new A1 class tornado. I don't know much about steam but hats off to those guys. Would like to have seen something more in depth about that project. :y
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Just stumbled across tonight's BBC4 about the new A1 class tornado. I don't know much about steam but hats off to those guys. Would like to have seen something more in depth about that project. :y
It was very interesting. Uncanny how difficult some things have become when only a generation ago ordinary men were doing them in depots all over the country. :(
Kevin
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I remember seeing this scene when visiting the football many moons ago
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/'The_Stack'_Vic_Berry's_03-10-1987.JPG)
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Lizzie,
There is a survivor of the Warship Class, Onslaught currently based at the Diesel and Electric Preservation Groups HQ at Williton on the West Somerset Railway.
We had a trip to the WSR's Autumn Gala a few weeks ago and part of the special events are the steam workshops and diesel workshops at Minehead and Williton are open for inspection which are very very interesting. There's some flippin' great engines being built in the diesel workshop :o
I've been interested in choo choos for years now and am a member of various preserved railway lines. I've also had an awful lot of ribbing about my interests but I don't care. There's something very peacefull about the avarage railway enviroment, I think it's because it harks back to a time when thinks weren't so hectic. Nostalgia I think it's called!!!
Humpy
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I stand corrected Lizzie .
Don
;D ;D ;D ;D :y
Ok Don, but it is great to know there is yet another oof member who is interested in the great British steam railway of the past and the wonderful progress that the modern railway preservation movement has made :y :y :y :y :y :y
So many great locomotives have been saved by determined passion, much money along with tremendously hard work, sweat and tears which included the rescue of about 213 locomotives out of a peak of about 225 collected together at the famous Barry scrapyard of Dai Woodham (God rest this wonderful man's soul) by 1968. Although still a fair percentage have still to be restored to working condition, they are still around and every so often another appears like a phoenix rising from the literal ashes of the past.
The next example of this is GWR "Castle" Class 5043 "Earl of Mount Edgcumbe to be soon steamed at Tysley, by 25th October all be in well, after last hauling a train on the 16th December 1963, spending 9 years 2 months at Barry before being purchased for preservation in 1972. Yet another fine example of pure grit and detirmination to keep great engines alive! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-):y :y :y :y :y
I wonder if a vast amount of our miggies will still exist in 40 years time due to preservationists? :-? :-?
Dai Woodham was a truely great man and one who truely desereved his MBE!
To be willing to sell these engines for preservation at scrap prices rather than milk the interest has resulted in so much of these great units being preserved.
Could you see the likes of Simon Cowell etc doing that!
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I remember seeing this scene when visiting the football many moons ago
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/'The_Stack'_Vic_Berry's_03-10-1987.JPG)
Might that football ground be Millmoor (Rotherham)
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I remember seeing this scene when visiting the football many moons ago
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/'The_Stack'_Vic_Berry's_03-10-1987.JPG)
Might that football ground be Millmoor (Rotherham)
No, that scene is of Vic Berries in Leicester which was just off the old great central line (they kept a spur to the scrap yard open even after the main line was torn up)
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The funny thing about Dai Woodham was, that he always said that he wasn't a railway enthusiast and that the only reason he didn't scrap all of his loco's was purely business orientated not sentiment! As was mentioned in one of the programs, it was easier to scrap wagons and coaches than big heavy locos!
He didn't let the preservationists off lightly either as when the price of scrap started to go up in the early 70's the price to the preservationists went up as well!
That said, the preserved railways would be a lot thinner on the ground than they are today if it wasn't for Dai.
Humpy
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The funny thing about Dai Woodham was, that he always said that he wasn't a railway enthusiast and that the only reason he didn't scrap all of his loco's was purely business orientated not sentiment! As was mentioned in one of the programs, it was easier to scrap wagons and coaches than big heavy locos!
He didn't let the preservationists off lightly either as when the price of scrap started to go up in the early 70's the price to the preservationists went up as well!
That said, the preserved railways would be a lot thinner on the ground than they are today if it wasn't for Dai.
Humpy
Sounds only fair to me....he was at the end of the day a buisness man!
He spent most of his time scrapping trucks which were easier to strip down and saved the locos for a rainy day :y
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Ah Vic Berries. Remember it well from Swain street bridge. You could see clouds of presumably asbestos dust coming out of the carriages as they were being broken up. In the days before health and safety.
The site is all houses now and has been for quite a few years. I wonder how much cleaning up of the site was actually done before building?
Cracking good programme on the building of Tornado. Maybe there is enough interest around to have a Television channel. They could also show those episodes of "garden railway" and the journeys on Swiss railways programmes! ;D
varche
Have yet to find a preserved steam anything in Spain! I believe there is a working line in the Rio Tinto mines in Huelva province in Andalucia that takes tourists to see what I think is the largest open cast hole in the world.
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I went to barry scrapyard a couple of times but in the 80`s so not many left by then, had a strange air of sadness about the place. there wouldnt be much around now if he hadnt hung on to them. well done Dia. :y
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Ah Vic Berries. Remember it well from Swain street bridge. You could see clouds of presumably asbestos dust coming out of the carriages as they were being broken up. In the days before health and safety.
The site is all houses now and has been for quite a few years. I wonder how much cleaning up of the site was actually done before building?
Cracking good programme on the building of Tornado. Maybe there is enough interest around to have a Television channel. They could also show those episodes of "garden railway" and the journeys on Swiss railways programmes! ;D
varche
Have yet to find a preserved steam anything in Spain! I believe there is a working line in the Rio Tinto mines in Huelva province in Andalucia that takes tourists to see what I think is the largest open cast hole in the world.
Yup, fair distance fom Swain Street though(which is over the midland line). The houses there are quite recent, they dug one hell of a lot of soil out before building them!
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I remember seeing this scene when visiting the football many moons ago
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/'The_Stack'_Vic_Berry's_03-10-1987.JPG)
Looks like Vic Berrys lots of Rats & McRats :(
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Lizzie,
There is a survivor of the Warship Class, Onslaught currently based at the Diesel and Electric Preservation Groups HQ at Williton on the West Somerset Railway.
We had a trip to the WSR's Autumn Gala a few weeks ago and part of the special events are the steam workshops and diesel workshops at Minehead and Williton are open for inspection which are very very interesting. There's some flippin' great engines being built in the diesel workshop :o
I've been interested in choo choos for years now and am a member of various preserved railway lines. I've also had an awful lot of ribbing about my interests but I don't care. There's something very peacefull about the avarage railway enviroment, I think it's because it harks back to a time when thinks weren't so hectic. Nostalgia I think it's called!!!
Humpy
THat is the class 42 version the BB Swindon built ones based on a German loco.
D601 was an NBL A1A A1A and had the unique NBL styling 5 built AFAIK (41 was reserved for it)
There was an NBL version of the BB as well - all scrapped 43 was reserved for them - 43 now belongs to the HST power cars
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Ah Vic Berries. Remember it well from Swain street bridge. You could see clouds of presumably asbestos dust coming out of the carriages as they were being broken up. In the days before health and safety.
The site is all houses now and has been for quite a few years. I wonder how much cleaning up of the site was actually done before building?
Cracking good programme on the building of Tornado. Maybe there is enough interest around to have a Television channel. They could also show those episodes of "garden railway" and the journeys on Swiss railways programmes! ;D
varche
Have yet to find a preserved steam anything in Spain! I believe there is a working line in the Rio Tinto mines in Huelva province in Andalucia that takes tourists to see what I think is the largest open cast hole in the world.
While you have time go to Portugal and look for CP1800 class and CP1400 class, both are English Electric the CP1400 is class 20 based and the CP1800 is basically a class 50 :y
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Lizzie,
There is a survivor of the Warship Class, Onslaught currently based at the Diesel and Electric Preservation Groups HQ at Williton on the West Somerset Railway.
We had a trip to the WSR's Autumn Gala a few weeks ago and part of the special events are the steam workshops and diesel workshops at Minehead and Williton are open for inspection which are very very interesting. There's some flippin' great engines being built in the diesel workshop :o
I've been interested in choo choos for years now and am a member of various preserved railway lines. I've also had an awful lot of ribbing about my interests but I don't care. There's something very peacefull about the avarage railway enviroment, I think it's because it harks back to a time when thinks weren't so hectic. Nostalgia I think it's called!!!
Humpy
That's great to know Humpy and thanks :y :y, as I feared that they had all been lost after the two at Barry were cut up. :'( :'(
Although a steam girl, I do still have very warm feelings towards certain classes of diesel, especially those that I encountered as a child being promoted as the new form of traction. :) :) ;)
I never worry about being classed as a "trainspotter" as I soon inform anyone who does that to me of my knowledge of the history of railways, their mechanical and civil engineering achievements, quite apart from the social history surrounding them which encompassed thousands of real life railway families for many generations! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
That shuts them up, and they then appreciate the academic and practical worth of the railways, then, now and in the future!! :D :D :y :y
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I remember seeing this scene when visiting the football many moons ago
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/'The_Stack'_Vic_Berry's_03-10-1987.JPG)
Ah yes the famous, or infamous, stack of 25's and 27's at Vic Berry's Leicester scrap yard c. September 1987! :'( :'(
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http://musicandmovies.timesonline.co.uk/acatalog/British_Transport_Times_Online.html dont know if any of you read the TIMES this was advertised in inside the football section today , just thought that maybe someoff you would be interested in it
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http://musicandmovies.timesonline.co.uk/acatalog/British_Transport_Times_Online.html dont know if any of you read the TIMES this was advertised in inside the football section today , just thought that maybe someoff you would be interested in it
Thanks!!
That is a great set of British Transport Films, which would add nicely to any existing collection which must include the most famous earlier PR film of 1936, "Night Mail" :y :y
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Whilst we are on the subject a happy announcement:
GWR "Castle" Class 5043 "Earl of Edgcumbe", built 1936, apparently pulled her first train yesterday at Tysley, Birmingham, since December 16th 1963.
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/5043.jpg)
Another great achievement by steam railway preservationists who brought this ex-Barry Scrapyard engine back to life. :-* :-* :y :y :y
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I think there are 2 warships preserved, I saw the `other` one at the SVR last year out of service, cant remember the name though. do remember seeing onslaught at derby loco works open day in the early 70`s. :y
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Lizzie,
There is a survivor of the Warship Class, Onslaught currently based at the Diesel and Electric Preservation Groups HQ at Williton on the West Somerset Railway.
We had a trip to the WSR's Autumn Gala a few weeks ago and part of the special events are the steam workshops and diesel workshops at Minehead and Williton are open for inspection which are very very interesting. There's some flippin' great engines being built in the diesel workshop :o
I've been interested in choo choos for years now and am a member of various preserved railway lines. I've also had an awful lot of ribbing about my interests but I don't care. There's something very peacefull about the avarage railway enviroment, I think it's because it harks back to a time when thinks weren't so hectic. Nostalgia I think it's called!!!
Humpy
That's great to know Humpy and thanks :y :y, as I feared that they had all been lost after the two at Barry were cut up. :'( :'(
Although a steam girl, I do still have very warm feelings towards certain classes of diesel, especially those that I encountered as a child being promoted as the new form of traction. :) :) ;)
I never worry about being classed as a "trainspotter" as I soon inform anyone who does that to me of my knowledge of the history of railways, their mechanical and civil engineering achievements, quite apart from the social history surrounding them which encompassed thousands of real life railway families for many generations! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
That shuts them up, and they then appreciate the academic and practical worth of the railways, then, now and in the future!! :D :D :y :y
D821 Greyhound and D832 Onslaught preserved D818 Glory survived into mid 80s
None of hte other types survived :(
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Sadly,
my the lads train collection only inlcudes, Thomas, Percy, James and Gordon.....plus a stack of trucks (troublesome), some coaches (Annie, Clarabel + James's coaches), a three loop track setup and three controllers.
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yeh right, your thomas set then Mark. ;D ;D
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Sadly, my the lads train collection only inlcudes, Thomas, Percy, James and Gordon.....plus a stack of trucks (troublesome), some coaches (Annie, Clarabel + James's coaches), a three loop track setup and three controllers.
;D ;D ;D ;DTTTE
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Sadly, my the lads train collection only inlcudes, Thomas, Percy, James and Gordon.....plus a stack of trucks (troublesome), some coaches (Annie, Clarabel + James's coaches), a three loop track setup and three controllers.
Well you know what to do Mark; start building your the son's big layout, garage size at least to handle the many engines, coaches and wagons that it will demand. :y
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Sadly, my the lads train collection only inlcudes, Thomas, Percy, James and Gordon.....plus a stack of trucks (troublesome), some coaches (Annie, Clarabel + James's coaches), a three loop track setup and three controllers.
Well you know what to do Mark; start building your the son's big layout, garage size at least to handle the many engines, coaches and wagons that it will demand. :y
Come on DTM, you know you want to... :D
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Sadly, my the lads train collection only inlcudes, Thomas, Percy, James and Gordon.....plus a stack of trucks (troublesome), some coaches (Annie, Clarabel + James's coaches), a three loop track setup and three controllers.
Well you know what to do Mark; start building your the son's big layout, garage size at least to handle the many engines, coaches and wagons that it will demand. :y
Come on DTM, you know you want to... :D
I can see a problem here. ;)
Kevin
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Why is that Kevin, big boys can play with toys, we all do with the miggies. :D
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Why is that Kevin, big boys can play with toys, we all do with the miggies. :D
Hence the problem. Play with miggies implies Garage. Garage sized train set implies... Hang on, though, maybe with a few pullies and ropes the problem could be solved. :-/
Kevin
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Yeh a suspended train set, good idea. there you go then mark, problem solved. :y
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Yeh a suspended train set, good idea. there you go then mark, problem solved. :y
Just make sure you don't do what I did and squash your signal box when putting it away. :'(
Kevin
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My garage is a bit small to get my car in :(
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I remember when I first moved in with SWMBO I was in my early 20's (a long time ago!) and her two sons were 10 and 12 and I was in my element! We made model aeroplanes, model railway layouts, played footie you name it we did it. A second childhood :)
When my grandsons were born I started my third childhood ;D It's bloody great :y
Humpy