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Who else has an inner fear that Barack could well be assisinated either before or after the Presidential Election? :-/ :-/
I really do not want to think that awful thought :(, but watching the news about neo-Nazis planning such an event, and noting the feelings being expressed by all too many "all white Americans" especially in the 'South' I do seriously fear it!! :o :o :o :o ::)
What do you think? :-? What do you think would happen in America? :-? Would it affect us in the UK? :-? :-? Do you care? :-?
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We have to care - US affects us.
I think the days of Reagan's shooting are gone, and you'd need to be on the inside, or be a marksman to get near enough.
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i reckon withing a yr if hes elected. ive also got a bet on with my m8 that amy winehouse is dead before my next birthday in july ;)
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also 50 quid on QPR promoted to premier league, tottenham demotted to championship. and i bet my m8 he wont live till hes 50 ::) ::)
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22 November 1963..Dallas ..Texas.
I would prefer Obama to win.....so I hope not...but.... :-/ :y
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Who else has an inner fear that Barack could well be assisinated either before or after the Presidential Election? :-/ :-/
I really do not want to think that awful thought :(, but watching the news about neo-Nazis planning such an event, and noting the feelings being expressed by all too many "all white Americans" especially in the 'South' I do seriously fear it!! :o :o :o :o ::)
What do you think? :-? What do you think would happen in America? :-? Would it affect us in the UK? :-? :-? Do you care? :-?
possible..but remember that he was choosen to clean the mess after Bush and to get some sympath from the world for US that they loose :-/
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22 November 1963..Dallas ..Texas.
I would prefer Obama to win.....so I hope not...but.... :-/ :y
Reagan and Pope in the 80s. But times have changed...
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We have to care - US affects us.
I think the days of Reagan's shooting are gone, and you'd need to be on the inside, or be a marksman to get near enough.
US effects everywhere even China..
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22 November 1963..Dallas ..Texas.I would prefer Obama to win.....so I hope not...but.... :-/ :y
That is the event that still plays on the mind Optimist, and JFK was all about change just like Obama is. :( :(
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We have to care - US affects us.
I think the days of Reagan's shooting are gone, and you'd need to be on the inside, or be a marksman to get near enough.
yes..a pity that old Ronnie "big brain" Reagan survived that little incident. :y
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22 November 1963..Dallas ..Texas.I would prefer Obama to win.....so I hope not...but.... :-/ :y
That is the event that still plays on the mind Optimist, and JFK was all about change just like Obama is. :( :(
I think they will do similiar things like they did to Clinton if they catch..
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Remember what happened to bhutto earlier this year , if someone is mad or stupid enough to strap a bomb to themselves they will try to get through whatever the cost in human life is :( :( :( :( :(
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22 November 1963..Dallas ..Texas.I would prefer Obama to win.....so I hope not...but.... :-/ :y
That is the event that still plays on the mind Optimist, and JFK was all about change just like Obama is. :( :(
Is it only Democrats that get assassinated Lizzie....or have any Republicans gone the same way...? :y :y
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22 November 1963..Dallas ..Texas.I would prefer Obama to win.....so I hope not...but.... :-/ :y
That is the event that still plays on the mind Optimist, and JFK was all about change just like Obama is. :( :(
Is it only Democrats that get assassinated Lizzie....or have any Republicans gone the same way...? :y :y
i think theres only been 3 successful assassinations lincon,kennedy and another whose name i cant remember ,but im sure the history headmistress (lizzie ;D ;D) will put us all straight :y :y
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22 November 1963..Dallas ..Texas.I would prefer Obama to win.....so I hope not...but.... :-/ :y
That is the event that still plays on the mind Optimist, and JFK was all about change just like Obama is. :( :(
Is it only Democrats that get assassinated Lizzie....or have any Republicans gone the same way...? :y :y
Yes, good question! President Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and was assisinated in the Ford Theatre, Washington on 14th April 1865. :'( ;)
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sorry got it wrong theres been 4 presidents killed A Lincoln
[/list] JFK
[/list] James A Garfield
[/list] William McKinley
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Leaving aside the indefensible actions of some racist skinheads, I think the US will face real problems if Obama wins.
First, and foremost, Obama will classify carbon dioxide as a dangerous pollutant ::) that can be regulated, opening the way for new rules on greenhouse gas emissions. It will certainly hinder power generation. It could also theoretically mean (especially the litigious way that US society operates these days) that almost every endeavour, from farming to industry will be saddled with huge costs, making the country less competitive and deepening the global recession. He is also a big fan of Al Gore, which is deeply worrying.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-carbon-dioxide-dangerous-pollutant/
Secondly, this from Joe Biden:
"In a stunning statement, Biden acknowledged that Obama’s lack of foreign-policy experience will provoke America’s enemies into creating an international crisis. Biden apparently thinks this is just terrific."
I don't fancy another crisis right now. :(
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/biden-to-suppor.html
Finally, I think he does not have the necessary business experience which is sorely needed in the current economic climate.
That said, McCain is pretty hopeless, in fact very hopeless. I think, however, that he would provide the slightly more stable transition from one president to the next.
For the voters, it's like choosing between Daffy Duck and Mickey Mouse. :-/ ::)
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Wish they would put on voting ballots ........NONE OFF THE ABOVE
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22 November 1963..Dallas ..Texas.I would prefer Obama to win.....so I hope not...but.... :-/ :y
That is the event that still plays on the mind Optimist, and JFK was all about change just like Obama is. :( :(
Is it only Democrats that get assassinated Lizzie....or have any Republicans gone the same way...? :y :y
i think theres only been 3 successful assassinations lincon,kennedy and another whose name i cant remember ,but im sure the history headmistress (lizzie ;D ;D) will put us all straight :y :y
Along with President Abraham Lincoln, Republican, assisinated in the Ford Theatre, Washington on 14th April 1865t, there was James Garfield, Republican President (the 20th) was assissinated on 2nd July 1881, then William McKinley 6th September 1901 and finally John F. Kennedy, Democrate, on 22nd November 1963 :'( :'( :'(
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22 November 1963..Dallas ..Texas.I would prefer Obama to win.....so I hope not...but.... :-/ :y
That is the event that still plays on the mind Optimist, and JFK was all about change just like Obama is. :( :(
Is it only Democrats that get assassinated Lizzie....or have any Republicans gone the same way...? :y :y
i think theres only been 3 successful assassinations lincon,kennedy and another whose name i cant remember ,but im sure the history headmistress (lizzie ;D ;D) will put us all straight :y :y
Along with Lincoln as I state above in my post, James Garfield, Republican President (the 20th) was assissinated on 2nd July 1881, then William McKinley 6th September 1901 and finally John F. Kennedy, Democrate, on 22nd November 1963 :'( :'( :'(
Did you Google that, Lizzie? If not, you should be on "Eggheads"! ;D ;D ;)
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22 November 1963..Dallas ..Texas.I would prefer Obama to win.....so I hope not...but.... :-/ :y
That is the event that still plays on the mind Optimist, and JFK was all about change just like Obama is. :( :(
Is it only Democrats that get assassinated Lizzie....or have any Republicans gone the same way...? :y :y
i think theres only been 3 successful assassinations lincon,kennedy and another whose name i cant remember ,but im sure the history headmistress (lizzie ;D ;D) will put us all straight :y :y
Along with Lincoln as I state above in my post, James Garfield, Republican President (the 20th) was assissinated on 2nd July 1881, then William McKinley 6th September 1901 and finally John F. Kennedy, Democrate, on 22nd November 1963 :'( :'( :'(
Did you Google that, Lizzie? If not, you should be on "Eggheads"! ;D ;D ;)
No I did not!! ::) ::) ::) Seriously though I am not a specialist historian on American Politics, so the two more obscure names of McKinley and Garfield I had to check in by way of my many reference books! ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Along with those presidents ,JFK's brother Bobby Kennedy was a presidential candidate & he was shot back in 1968 also
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For those who love as I do amazing facts from History, try the following facts concerning President's Lincoln & Kennedy. It will keep you checking and thinking! :y :y
Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.
Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.
Now it gets really weird.
Lincoln 'S secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.
Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.
Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.
Now hang on to your seat.
Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford.'
Kennedy was shot in a car called ' Lincoln' made by 'Ford.'
Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theater.
Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.
And here's the kicker...
A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
:D :D ;) ;)
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For those who love as I do amazing facts from History, try the following facts concerning President's Lincoln & Kennedy. It will keep you checking and thinking! :y :y
Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.
Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.
Now it gets really weird.
Lincoln 'S secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.
Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.
Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.
Now hang on to your seat.
Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford.'
Kennedy was shot in a car called ' Lincoln' made by 'Ford.'
Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theater.
Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.
And here's the kicker...
A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
:D :D ;) ;)
reencarnation with an unbreakable faith :-/
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Thats straight out of the twiglet zone!!!! Cool facts Lizzie :y
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Whichever way it is played BO is the best choice, if the other chap gets in the nutter becomes vice president.
TBH if any of them need shooting try the nutty cow in the other party
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Whichever way it is played BO is the best choice, if the other chap gets in the nutter becomes vice president.
TBH if any of them need shooting try the nutty cow in the other party
Not really very pleasant, Martin. :(
I don't agree with all she says, but she is the only one of the 4 in the president/vice president race that does not buy into the great global warming scam, so nutter she is not.
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I think this nutter better stay in home and cook for husband :-X
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I think this nutter better stay in home and cook for husband :-X
:( :( :( :( ::)
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Leaving aside the indefensible actions of some racist skinheads, I think the US will face real problems if Obama wins.
First, and foremost, Obama will classify carbon dioxide as a dangerous pollutant ::) that can be regulated, opening the way for new rules on greenhouse gas emissions. It will certainly hinder power generation. It could also theoretically mean (especially the litigious way that US society operates these days) that almost every endeavour, from farming to industry will be saddled with huge costs, making the country less competitive and deepening the global recession. He is also a big fan of Al Gore, which is deeply worrying.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-carbon-dioxide-dangerous-pollutant/
Secondly, this from Joe Biden:
"In a stunning statement, Biden acknowledged that Obama’s lack of foreign-policy experience will provoke America’s enemies into creating an international crisis. Biden apparently thinks this is just terrific."
I don't fancy another crisis right now. :(
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/biden-to-suppor.html
Finally, I think he does not have the necessary business experience which is sorely needed in the current economic climate.
That said, McCain is pretty hopeless, in fact very hopeless. I think, however, that he would provide the slightly more stable transition from one president to the next.
For the voters, it's like choosing between Daffy Duck and Mickey Mouse. :-/ ::)
Clearly, it's not always the best post that gets the replies.
;D ;D ;D
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Whichever way it is played BO is the best choice, if the other chap gets in the nutter becomes vice president.
TBH if any of them need shooting try the nutty cow in the other party
Not really very pleasant, Martin. :(
I don't agree with all she says, but she is the only one of the 4 in the president/vice president race that does not buy into the great global warming scam, so nutter she is not.
I have read enough - she IS a nut job, like it or not, for a starter she is a creationist and that should be enough to prevent her having public office.
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also 50 quid on QPR promoted to premier league, tottenham demotted to championship. and i bet my m8 he wont live till hes 50 ::) ::)
not going to happen :P
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oh and for the original question - i don't really care, sure it's going to affect us but i really can't do anything about this vote ;)
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I think there would be some crazy from kkk would attempt it. there is still alot of racialism in America. Some dont want a coloured person to lead them. If it did happen, possibility that race wars would start in USA. That would suit the mindless KKK
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I think there would be some crazy from kkk would attempt it. there is still alot of racialism in America. Some dont want a coloured person to lead them. If it did happen, possibility that race wars would start in USA. That would suit the mindless KKK
CAn't see any issue with BA and not being white - why does it matter?
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Whichever way it is played BO is the best choice, if the other chap gets in the nutter becomes vice president.
TBH if any of them need shooting try the nutty cow in the other party
Not really very pleasant, Martin. :(
I don't agree with all she says, but she is the only one of the 4 in the president/vice president race that does not buy into the great global warming scam, so nutter she is not.
I have read enough - she IS a nut job, like it or not, for a starter she is a creationist and that should be enough to prevent her having public office.
Christians, and most other faiths for that matter, believe in an ultimate deity. That does not necessarily compel them to believe that a deity created the universe, but many do. Palin expressly said that creationism should not be part of the curriculum (in Alaska), but if the issue came up she would have no problem in it being debated. Barack Obama is self-confessed Christian, who claims to pray daily. Of course, science itself preaches a form of creationism: Stephen Hawking says that "The universe can spontaneously create itself out of nothing." I don't want to get into a religious debate here - indeed I won't as I believe spiritual matters are personal. But, it would seem that both Palin and Obama claim to be Christians. If you think believers are nutters, then that's fine, but you'd need to tar both with the same brush.
I just hate all this sensationalist muck-raking. I want to hear about economic policies, foreign policies and so on. Not all this personal gobshite.
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Whichever way it is played BO is the best choice, if the other chap gets in the nutter becomes vice president.
TBH if any of them need shooting try the nutty cow in the other party
Not really very pleasant, Martin. :(
I don't agree with all she says, but she is the only one of the 4 in the president/vice president race that does not buy into the great global warming scam, so nutter she is not.
I have read enough - she IS a nut job, like it or not, for a starter she is a creationist and that should be enough to prevent her having public office.
Christians, and most other faiths for that matter, believe in an ultimate deity. That does not necessarily compel them to believe that a deity created the universe, but many do. Palin expressly said that creationism should not be part of the curriculum (in Alaska), but if the issue came up she would have no problem in it being debated. Barack Obama is self-confessed Christian, who claims to pray daily. Of course, science itself preaches a form of creationism: Stephen Hawking says that "The universe can spontaneously create itself out of nothing." I don't want to get into a religious debate here - indeed I won't as I believe spiritual matters are personal. But, it would seem that both Palin and Obama claim to be Christians. If you think believers are nutters, then that's fine, but you'd need to tar both with the same brush.
I just hate all this sensationalist muck-raking. I want to hear about economic policies, foreign policies and so on. Not all this personal gobshite.
true Nickbat :-/
but i don't want that crazy bitch getting anymore power :D
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Yes it is personal and I have no issues either way - it can provide a good moral compass.
But I suppose it is the information hunting side of me wanting to know what is what.
Is there a third party?
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I don't want anyone to shoot him, no need for that but i have the radio on all day in the cab & i'm sick to the back teeth of the whole US Presidential drone, it just goes on & on.
Please let's get it over with FFS. :(
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I don't want anyone to shoot him, no need for that but i have the radio on all day in the cab & i'm sick to the back teeth of the whole US Presidential drone, it just goes on & on.
Please let's get it over with FFS. :(
week to go yet :o
guy at work was telling me today that he's booked next Wednesday off so he can stay up Tuesday night watching it happen live :-X
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And here's the kicker...
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
:D :D ;) ;)
Marilyn Monroe — Died: August 5, 1962 (aged 36) Brentwood, California (drug overdose)
The assassination of John F. Kennedy, the thirty-fifth President of the United States, took place on Friday, November 22, 1963, in Dallas, Texas.
I had heard he was a necrophiliac. ;D ;D ;D
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And here's the kicker...
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
:D :D ;) ;)
Marilyn Monroe — Died: August 5, 1962 (aged 36) Brentwood, California (drug overdose)
The assassination of John F. Kennedy, the thirty-fifth President of the United States, took place on Friday, November 22, 1963, in Dallas, Texas.
I had heard he was a necrophiliac. ;D ;D ;D
:D ;D :D ;D :D ;D
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I think obama may turn out to be an American Blair -all style,no substance or principles. time will tell. :-/
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I think obama may turn out to be an American Blair -all style,no substance or principles. time will tell. :-/
Think you might be right. :y
I also think such a combination is a wee bit dangerous in these times. The US needs a business-as-usual period to regroup, IMHO.
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22 November 1963..Dallas ..Texas.I would prefer Obama to win.....so I hope not...but.... :-/ :y
That is the event that still plays on the mind Optimist, and JFK was all about change just like Obama is. :( :(
Is it only Democrats that get assassinated Lizzie....or have any Republicans gone the same way...? :y :y
Yes, good question! President Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and was assisinated in the Ford Theatre, Washington on 14th April 1865. :'( ;)
Just a bit of useless info on Lincoln assasination.john Wilkes Booth the assasin was helped later by a couple called Mudd,not knowing what had happened.When it came to light they were castigated and that is where the expression "my names mud(Mudd) comes from. :y
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I think we're in trouble whichever way the US vote, TBH. I would have been the first to say that it can't get any worse than "Dubya" but at least a lame duck is relatively harmless in comparison to some of the stuff that's been bounced around during this campaign.
Kevin
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i`ve just read on a conspiracy theory web site that if obama does not get elected some militant african americans are advocating using race riots to get their way!!!! sheesh this bloke cant win either way round....
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22 November 1963..Dallas ..Texas.I would prefer Obama to win.....so I hope not...but.... :-/ :y
That is the event that still plays on the mind Optimist, and JFK was all about change just like Obama is. :( :(
Is it only Democrats that get assassinated Lizzie....or have any Republicans gone the same way...? :y :y
Yes, good question! President Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and was assisinated in the Ford Theatre, Washington on 14th April 1865. :'( ;)
He was shot in the theatre but was taken to the Barbers accross the road where he died........ ok I'll shut up now.... ::) ::)
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Who else has an inner fear that Barack could well be assisinated either before or after the Presidential Election? :-/ :-/
I really do not want to think that awful thought :(, but watching the news about neo-Nazis planning such an event, and noting the feelings being expressed by all too many "all white Americans" especially in the 'South' I do seriously fear it!! :o :o :o :o ::)
What do you think? :-? What do you think would happen in America? :-? Would it affect us in the UK? :-? :-? Do you care? :-?
Its ok Jack Bauer will save us all :y
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As time goes on it looks like Sarah Palin is starting to become more of a liability to the Republicans than an asset.
I believe that Obama will win....and then? :y
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22 November 1963..Dallas ..Texas.I would prefer Obama to win.....so I hope not...but.... :-/ :y
That is the event that still plays on the mind Optimist, and JFK was all about change just like Obama is. :( :(
Is it only Democrats that get assassinated Lizzie....or have any Republicans gone the same way...? :y :y
Yes, good question! President Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and was assisinated in the Ford Theatre, Washington on 14th April 1865. :'( ;)
He was shot in the theatre but was taken to the Barbers accross the road where he died........ ok I'll shut up now.... ::) ::)
..........yes as JFK died in Dallas Hospital, but in both cases the actual act of assisination took place in the Ford Theatre, Washington, and outside the Depository in Dallas respectively. :y :y :y
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Interesting article for those of you who follow politics:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/2293196/pinch-yourself.thtml
Don't know how true it is, but it is interesting nonetheless.
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Interesting article for those of you who follow politics:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/2293196/pinch-yourself.thtml
Don't know how true it is, but it is interesting nonetheless.
Thanks Nickbat, very interesting!! :y :y
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But he is media friendly,the camera likes him.Which seems to be the most important attribute these days,which was how we ended up with Bliar.
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But he is media friendly,the camera likes him.Which seems to be the most important attribute these days,which was how we ended up with Bliar.
Quite right, Albitz. :y
Scary really. I've always said that the person we need as a PM is someone who needs to be dragged into No10 kicking and screaming "But I don't want to be PM!". "Yes", say the press-gang, "But you're the best person for the job, whether you like it or not!"
These days, especially, the advent of career politicians means that we end up being governed by people whose whose driving ambition is to govern. Would you really vote for someone who said "My sole interest is to control you"?
No, I thought not. ;) ;D ;D