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Title: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: M16 on 28 October 2008, 21:53:03
I recently got some new number plates made up and opted to have a scotland flag put on the side (As you do).
I have just found out I could be fined for this. I got pulled over for a quick chat by the local police last night while I was driving home rather late and had my car checked over. I was told that everything was in order. So whats the crack?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1317286/Union-Flag-banned-on-car-number-plates.html
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: Del Boy on 28 October 2008, 21:55:35
I bet this has something to do with it offending some people.
No offence meant or anything, but this country is pathetic!
Sooner Gordon Brown p!sses off the better. How I got onto Gordon Brown from number plates I don't know. Well mate if anyone says anything just tell them you want the money as you had to pay for your current plates and don't intend on paying again.
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: TheBoy on 28 October 2008, 21:55:38
yup, strigent rules now.

Hopefully should stop the chavs who have gay fonts, or the pillocks who readjust all spacing to make it say their silly name
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: TheBoy on 28 October 2008, 21:56:05
I guess the rules make ANPR work better
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: M16 on 28 October 2008, 21:57:25
The plates were made at the MOT station I take my car to so at least the font is correct. Stupid rules
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: unlucky alf on 28 October 2008, 22:00:35
i object to having the EU flag on them as its something we were conned into >:(
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: TheBoy on 28 October 2008, 22:02:11
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i object to having the EU flag on them as its something we were conned into >:(
thats not mandatory
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: BigAl on 28 October 2008, 22:03:31
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1317286/Union-Flag-banned-on-car-number-plates.html
The above article is from 2001,  but i recently read somewhere that the law is to be changed to allow display of country flags instead of the crap EU laurels
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: unlucky alf on 28 October 2008, 22:03:46
right in that case they are coming off!!! thanks TB :y
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: oceansoul on 28 October 2008, 22:03:54
Well i think if you check in the places that make the plates (halfords/online ect) they state that you can have either the euro stars, st george, scotland flag or welsh flag with either GB, ENG, SCO or CMY. My mum's ford has eu stars with ENG and thats from the factory. Although TBH i doubt you'll get pulled for it, maybe charged if you get pulled and argue with cops or something. On my old corsa i had St george's flag with ENG on both front and back, used to get pulled often and never once were my plates mentioned.
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: zippo on 28 October 2008, 22:04:32
mates car has just failed the m.o.t for not having the postcode stamped on the plate  :o :o
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 28 October 2008, 22:11:03
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mates car has just failed the m.o.t for not having the postcode stamped on the plate  :o :o


Yes that is an offence under current regulations:

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf

 :y :y
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: Del Boy on 28 October 2008, 22:14:03
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mates car has just failed the m.o.t for not having the postcode stamped on the plate  :o :o
Thats pathetic.
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: Vamps on 28 October 2008, 22:17:02
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mates car has just failed the m.o.t for not having the postcode stamped on the plate  :o :o

 :-? :-? :-?
My Mig has plates on without anything on oher than the number, recently passed it's MOT and passed last year two, different garages :-/ I have a Private plate and bought them off the internet, no hassel with having to go with ID etc. :-/
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: HerefordElite on 28 October 2008, 22:17:40
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mates car has just failed the m.o.t for not having the postcode stamped on the plate  :o :o


Yes that is an offence under current regulations:

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf

 :y :y

that doesn't mention postcode anywhere does it? unless my tired eyes aren't working quite right :-?
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: zippo on 28 October 2008, 22:18:05
when did the postcode rule take effect ??
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: Vamps on 28 October 2008, 22:22:01
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mates car has just failed the m.o.t for not having the postcode stamped on the plate  :o :o


Yes that is an offence under current regulations:

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf

 :y :y

that doesn't mention postcode anywhere does it? unless my tired eyes aren't working quite right :-?

Yes it does and a BS number ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: Entwood on 28 October 2008, 22:23:00
Actually you should NOT have failed the test for the postcode reason .. :(

The rule bringing in a load of the number plate rules was suspended only months after it was published ... and AFAIK has not been re-introduced ...

Introduced :

http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/newsandevents/pressreleases/2007pressreleases/20-09-07changestotherequirementsforregistrationplatechecksatmottest.htm


http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/v796.pdf

Withdrawn :

http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/repository/Special%20Notice%2010-07.pdf

NOTE : I'm not saying these number plates are LEGAL . they are NOT, they still breach the law .. it's just you can't fail an MOT with them, Mr Plod can still "do" you for them however ....

HTH

:)
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: HerefordElite on 28 October 2008, 22:27:25
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mates car has just failed the m.o.t for not having the postcode stamped on the plate  :o :o


Yes that is an offence under current regulations:

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf

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that doesn't mention postcode anywhere does it? unless my tired eyes aren't working quite right :-?

Yes it does and a BS number ::) ::) ::)


oh yes it does on the very last page ::) :-[

i was about to ask how this applies to internet plates like mine? but just been out to look and it's got a postcode if you look very closely :-[

bed for me ;)
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: zippo on 28 October 2008, 22:30:52
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mates car has just failed the m.o.t for not having the postcode stamped on the plate  :o :o


Yes that is an offence under current regulations:

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf

 :y :y

that doesn't mention postcode anywhere does it? unless my tired eyes aren't working quite right :-?

Yes it does and a BS number ::) ::) ::)

nice  :D :D :D
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: amigov6 on 28 October 2008, 22:42:38
The plates on the Beastie & Kates 2.5 are illegal. The 3d font & honeycomb are fine but the VXV6 To the left of the plate & the omegaowners.com & big black beastie @ the bottom of each given plate are illegal. Those of you who know where i live (on a t junction) will know my cars are in full view of the local law but i've never been bothered at home or elsewhere as the characters are'nt messed with so speed/tax cameras can read them. ::)
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: HolyCount on 28 October 2008, 22:43:40
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mates car has just failed the m.o.t for not having the postcode stamped on the plate  :o :o


Yes that is an offence under current regulations:

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf

 :y :y

that doesn't mention postcode anywhere does it? unless my tired eyes aren't working quite right :-?


Right at the end .....

ReflectivityThe British Standard also requires that a number plate must be marked with the followinginformation: -
l The British Standard Number (currently BS AU 145d)
l The name, trade mark, or other means of identification of the manufacturer or componentsupplier. (The company who actually make the number plate.)
l The name and postcode of the supplying outlet. (The 'supplying outlet' is taken to mean acompany whose business consists wholly or partly of selling number plates.)
l A non-reflective border and the Euro-symbol with the national identification letters areoptional additions.
l There shall be no other markings or material contained on the number plate.
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: HerefordElite on 28 October 2008, 22:44:41
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mates car has just failed the m.o.t for not having the postcode stamped on the plate  :o :o


Yes that is an offence under current regulations:

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf

 :y :y

that doesn't mention postcode anywhere does it? unless my tired eyes aren't working quite right :-?


Right at the end .....

ReflectivityThe British Standard also requires that a number plate must be marked with the followinginformation: -
l The British Standard Number (currently BS AU 145d)
l The name, trade mark, or other means of identification of the manufacturer or componentsupplier. (The company who actually make the number plate.)
l The name and postcode of the supplying outlet. (The 'supplying outlet' is taken to mean acompany whose business consists wholly or partly of selling number plates.)
l A non-reflective border and the Euro-symbol with the national identification letters areoptional additions.
l There shall be no other markings or material contained on the number plate.


catch up count ::)
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: Martin_1962 on 28 October 2008, 22:45:21
THe Police are only bothered with legibility
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: HolyCount on 28 October 2008, 22:45:38
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mates car has just failed the m.o.t for not having the postcode stamped on the plate  :o :o


Yes that is an offence under current regulations:

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf

 :y :y

that doesn't mention postcode anywhere does it? unless my tired eyes aren't working quite right :-?


Right at the end .....

ReflectivityThe British Standard also requires that a number plate must be marked with the followinginformation: -
l The British Standard Number (currently BS AU 145d)
l The name, trade mark, or other means of identification of the manufacturer or componentsupplier. (The company who actually make the number plate.)
l The name and postcode of the supplying outlet. (The 'supplying outlet' is taken to mean acompany whose business consists wholly or partly of selling number plates.)
l A non-reflective border and the Euro-symbol with the national identification letters areoptional additions.
l There shall be no other markings or material contained on the number plate.


catch up count ::)


Story of my life  :-/ :-[ :D
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: hotel21 on 28 October 2008, 22:46:25
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i object to having the EU flag on them as its something we were conned into >:(
thats not mandatory
It is, if travelling in Europe.

According to the EU, the usual suspects England, Scotland, Wales and NI are not acceptable on registration plates, but GB and the EU stars are, hence the source of the article, apparently....

Personally, it would have had to have been a VERY quiet day when out to play to even contemplate thinking about almost doing something resembling nicking someone for having ENG/SCO/CYM/NI on the plate instead of GB and the EU stars.....


Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: MartinP on 28 October 2008, 23:33:37
Link on the same page as the original post



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1366581/Britons-can-fly-the-flag-on-car-plates.html

Country flag is OK
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: Bandit127 on 29 October 2008, 06:34:00
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that doesn't mention postcode anywhere does it? unless my tired eyes aren't working quite right :-?
Yes, in the last paragraph where it talks about the British Standard.

However, the example pictured plate does not have the required info on it...  ;D
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: tmx on 29 October 2008, 07:23:07
my plates have no post code just say BT Fleet Oberton Rd Exeter on them and have bt's old trumpet logo on em with the BSAU thing at the sides

cheers for the advice entwood will remember that next time for mot time :y
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: Jimbob on 29 October 2008, 08:02:20
sure there was something on the news last week about 'local' flags and countrys being made legal within a few weeks.
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: jimbobmccoy on 29 October 2008, 09:56:20
when driving in europe they will only accept the gb, and not constituent countries, also, they dont recognise/accept the english flag.  Only the union jack!
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: tmx on 31 October 2008, 13:17:04
Same applies when driving in wales with a union jack! especially in the Valleys! things can get a little heated!
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 31 October 2008, 13:26:50
Best not to have any flags IMHO.

.. and they'll put that "Euro" flag on my car over my dead body.  >:(

Kevin
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: Welung666 on 31 October 2008, 13:29:37
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Best not to have any flags IMHO.

.. and they'll put that "Euro" flag on my car over my dead body.  >:(

Kevin

I agree completely! We're not part of Europe anyway, there's a strip of water between us!
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: MickAP on 31 October 2008, 14:39:08
I consider my plates to be illegal, no postcode, no makers name, and a Vauxhall badge.http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1225393439  

I keep the old plates in the car just incase the plod stop me and for MOT time if they say are not passable.

Mick
Title: Re: My number plates are illegal.
Post by: Albatross on 31 October 2008, 19:09:53
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mates car has just failed the m.o.t for not having the postcode stamped on the plate  :o :o


Yes that is an offence under current regulations:

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf

 :y :y


Mine are technically illegal (but only if they were made after a certain date) :y

What is your postcode TB? If I put that on as the server location I suppose that would legalise them wouldn't it? ;D

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