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Title: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 04 November 2008, 13:05:13
I got called into a meeting this morning with my boss, who has seen my resignation.

She stated

1) She doesn't want me to leave, thinks I'm great at my job.
2) Told me she'll do anything reasonable if it means I'll stay
3) Told me she wouldn't accept my resignation until I'd taken a week off to consider it...

 :-/
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: Markie on 04 November 2008, 13:07:52
Told you yesterday mate, theres ways of resolving this ( or attempting to)  :)

Ultimately they cant refuse your resignation, but there trying to make " you see sense" in their eyes.

Its worth discussing your reasons with them and seeing if its soometing you can iron out for the sake of your health.  :y If not then they cant stop you...
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: albitz on 04 November 2008, 13:08:21
Take a week off and consider it,wont do any harm. :y
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 04 November 2008, 13:11:38
I am off to Amsterdam next week :D
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: albitz on 04 November 2008, 13:12:57
Nice one, have fun. ;) 8-)
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: Ken T on 04 November 2008, 13:17:18
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I got called into a meeting this morning with my boss, who has seen my resignation.

She stated

1) She doesn't want me to leave, thinks I'm great at my job.
2) Told me she'll do anything reasonable if it means I'll stay
3) Told me she wouldn't accept my resignation until I'd taken a week off to consider it...

 :-/

That sounds like an almost blank cheque to me  :y :y :y

Now where do you start  :D

Paid Holiday,
50% pay rise,
2 weeks extra holiday,
*2 for all overtime,
Own Office, Own secretary, key to the executive rest room,
etc, etc, etc

Could be a nice little earner  ;D ;D ;D

Ken

PS need an assistant ?.
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: kris9128 on 04 November 2008, 13:22:18
explain your circumstances to her. tell her what you are thinking of doing. maybe they could put you on part time hrs while you see if the mechanicing is a goer or not. if it isnt then you could go back to full time hrs and youve lost nothing. just a thought mate. all the bst no matter what you decide to do.
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: STMO123 on 04 November 2008, 13:35:25
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I got called into a meeting this morning with my boss, who has seen my resignation.

She stated

1) She doesn't want me to leave, thinks I'm great at my job.
2) Told me she'll do anything reasonable if it means I'll stay
3) Told me she wouldn't accept my resignation until I'd taken a week off to consider it...

 :-/

Now then   ::)
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 November 2008, 13:37:41
I dont think more money should be allowed for anybody in the public sector....coz we cant afford it  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: Danny on 04 November 2008, 13:44:08
a mate of mine who used to work with me at royal mail left for an IT job and i think his starting pay was around £20k pa, he hates his job and attempted to resign in order to come back to royal mail and a place was guaranteed for him, his bosses at the IT firm gave him a £5k pa pay rise to keep him there :y
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: Dusty on 04 November 2008, 13:49:11
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I got called into a meeting this morning with my boss, who has seen my resignation.

She stated

1) She doesn't want me to leave, thinks I'm great at my job.
2) Told me she'll do anything reasonable if it means I'll stay
3) Told me she wouldn't accept my resignation until I'd taken a week off to consider it...

 :-/
I see you have a woman boss....what a good idea. ;D :-* :-*
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: Ken T on 04 November 2008, 13:52:45
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a mate of mine who used to work with me at royal mail left for an IT job and i think his starting pay was around £20k pa, he hates his job and attempted to resign in order to come back to royal mail and a place was guaranteed for him, his bosses at the IT firm gave him a £5k pa pay rise to keep him there :y

Yes, cause if they have to find someone else, there will be the disruption, they have to start contacting agencies, and pay a hefty finders fee, plus the time until the new person starts performing, its an expensive business finding staff.

Ken
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: MickAP on 04 November 2008, 14:11:32
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a mate of mine who used to work with me at royal mail left for an IT job and i think his starting pay was around £20k pa, he hates his job and attempted to resign in order to come back to royal mail and a place was guaranteed for him, his bosses at the IT firm gave him a £5k pa pay rise to keep him there :y

Must be mad hating it more than Royal Mail, and they are wanting to ship as many jobs as they can at present.
Good luck to him if he gets back there.

Mick
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: notacarbuff on 04 November 2008, 14:14:48
James, they cannot refuse your resignation, but a week to think about it seems reasonable.

Being in the NHS they will have strict HR guidlines and salary bandings so I doubt it will be the blank cheque mentioned elsewhere.

My suggestion would be to go for some extra cash (and a change in role if possible) and continue to look elsewhere using the extra money as a way of improving your chances of a better paid role externally.

Good Luck
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: tunnie on 04 November 2008, 14:15:35
can get a lot of money by attempting to resign, friend did the same, was gunna leave to go to a more local company, his current place offered him 4k more and he could work from home 2 days a week.
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: MickAP on 04 November 2008, 14:26:19
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I got called into a meeting this morning with my boss, who has seen my resignation.

She stated

1) She doesn't want me to leave, thinks I'm great at my job.
2) Told me she'll do anything reasonable if it means I'll stay
3) Told me she wouldn't accept my resignation until I'd taken a week off to consider it...

 :-/

Very similar words my wife's boss used when she handed in her resignation. Meaning they will only have to find some other dogs body to do the work. Not saying your a dogsbody James  but look into what those words really mean.
She resigned got another job, lasted 6 months in that job. She then went back to her old job (big mistake) on her terms better pay, better hours but an even bigger dogsbody.
She's now left again and very happy in her work elsewhere.
Have a good think about it before you decide, and good luck.

Mick
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: ians on 04 November 2008, 16:22:27
Nowhere on James' original post did I see lack of money as being one of his issues.  Even if he wings a rise, he will be just as unhappy in a short space of time as he is now, unless the fundamentals are addressed.  

I suggest taking the week to think it through and then discuss the real issues with her.   If she is genuinely prepared (and can) to make changes to address the issues then I suggest its worth sticking with it for a period.

Say, give yourself 3 months (that will fly by..) and promise yourself to make a decision then.   As others pointed out on the earlier thread, with the current uncertainty, now is not really the time for making precipitous moves in the job market.   As least with the NHS you should be pretty safe.

Cheers,
Ian
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 November 2008, 16:46:15
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I suggest taking the week to think it through and then discuss the real issues with her.   If she is genuinely prepared (and can) to make changes to address the issues then I suggest its worth sticking with it for a period.

Say, give yourself 3 months (that will fly by..) and promise yourself to make a decision then.  

I agree. By my reckoning there was just under 1 hour and 20 minutes between your "Shall I quit?" and "I have quit" posts yesterday. Now, I appreciate that you will have considered it for longer than that and that things came to a head yesterday but your decision will seem just as drastic and sudden to your boss assuming you have not previously made your feelings known.

She is probably as eager to ensure you are making the right decision for yourself as she is desperate not to lose you. I'd say there's no harm in discussing your feelings, taking a bit of a break from it, and then, on your return, assessing whether the situation is likely to improve to your satisfaction. You won't be able to change the nature of the NHS and neither will your boss but until she is fully aware of what's troubling you neither of you will know if a workable solution exists.

It's also worth considering the grass on the other side. I know a job where you're frustrated and working with your hands tied isn't great, but, IMHO, working under an Omega 5 days a week in all weathers wouldn't be an improvement, much as I enjoy a little spanner wielding.

As eluded to in your original thread, I think finding a way to walk out at 5 PM and leave work at work is important too - for any job, even one you love.

I hope you have a nice break in Amsterdam and it gives you an opportunity to chill out a little and I wish you all the best of luck in whatever path you choose from there on.

Kevin
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 04 November 2008, 17:52:51
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I got called into a meeting this morning with my boss, who has seen my resignation.

She stated

1) She doesn't want me to leave, thinks I'm great at my job.
2) Told me she'll do anything reasonable if it means I'll stay
3) Told me she wouldn't accept my resignation until I'd taken a week off to consider it...

 :-/
I see you have a woman boss....what a good idea. ;D :-* :-*

Yes Dusty, and she will no doubt will go on the charm offensive more than ever with James until she achieves her goals if she is like me!! :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: ians on 04 November 2008, 18:01:46
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I got called into a meeting this morning with my boss, who has seen my resignation.

She stated

1) She doesn't want me to leave, thinks I'm great at my job.
2) Told me she'll do anything reasonable if it means I'll stay
3) Told me she wouldn't accept my resignation until I'd taken a week off to consider it...

 :-/
I see you have a woman boss....what a good idea. ;D :-* :-*

Yes Dusty, and she will no doubt will go on the charm offensive more than ever with James until she achieves her goals if she is like me!! :D :D :D ;)

You two seemed to have missed the point that she is the boss of someone who so deeply disatisifed with his job that he has just handed his notice in.  Good manager huh? ::) ;) :)  
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: Jay w on 04 November 2008, 18:08:07
i have read the threads with regards to your decisions.

She sees you as an important member of her team, she want to keep you for one reason or another, so use that as your bargaining point.

A pay rise of the value you want may not always be possible, but what about asking for involvement in something that will develop other, transferable, skills as well as some sort of financial package.

i love working on cars, and could most likely scrape by doing it as an occupation, but what happens if the credit crunch bites deeper and money is even more scarce, cars and their servicing are one of the first victims. More so with Xmas round the corner, money will be even tighter this year than previous

take the time to think about it before making that leap

good luck with whatever you do  :y
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: ians on 04 November 2008, 18:11:03
James ,
A bit off direct topic, but I took a look at your website.  Looked very preofessional I've got to say.
However, are you really restricting yourself to Omegas?  That has surely got to be a market in decline.   If you did smaller Vauxhalls say I reckon you would have a much better chance of making it a go-er.
Title: Re: Employer won't accept my notice
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 04 November 2008, 18:20:39
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I got called into a meeting this morning with my boss, who has seen my resignation.

She stated

1) She doesn't want me to leave, thinks I'm great at my job.
2) Told me she'll do anything reasonable if it means I'll stay
3) Told me she wouldn't accept my resignation until I'd taken a week off to consider it...

 :-/
I see you have a woman boss....what a good idea. ;D :-* :-*

Yes Dusty, and she will no doubt will go on the charm offensive more than ever with James until she achieves her goals if she is like me!! :D :D :D ;)

You two seemed to have missed the point that she is the boss of someone who so deeply disatisifed with his job that he has just handed his notice in.  Good manager huh? ::) ;) :)  

From what I originally read James is tired of the poorly funded NHS that does not install the right IT systems for him, and no doubt his colleagues, to do their job and causes the pressures he has faced that has made him fed up due to poor training procedures. :( :(

A good line manager tries, against the odds, to save someone that "the system" has worked agains't and allienated.  That is what his boss is attemping by telling him how he is valued, offering him an enhanced benefits package to keep him there.  :y :y

A poor manager, who didn't value her staff would just say "oh well, good bye and good riddence, we can always find someone else!" and watch trained, professional talent, walk out of the organization without resistence :P :P