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Title: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: MickAP on 09 November 2008, 16:02:44
Just a question on what brand forum members use in there Omega diesel, or any other diesel car for that matter.

Reason for asking is my TD smokes like hell with Sainsburys "City Diesel" but wasn't half as bad on Asda diesel even after having it chipped. I did use the Sainsburys stuff some time ago but stopped using it until recently forced to while the Asda station was out of action.

What diesel burns the cleanest do you think, Shell, BP and Total I'm thinking of using, obviously price permitting.

Mick
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2008, 16:38:30
I use Shell (coz I have one of their loyalty cards, and their credit card, and Asda, coz I have one of their credit cards).

The Shell is a much cleaner burn ime
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: waspy on 09 November 2008, 17:27:10
I can't say i've ever noticed which one smokes the most. That's behind me & i'm too busy looking in front :D

I filled up with Sainbury's the last time, so i'll take note when i fill up some where else :y
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: Omegatoy on 09 November 2008, 17:34:01
I use optimax diesel or bp ultimate diesel, i know its more expensive to buy but i get far more to the gallon and the car runs so much smoother on it, also very little smoke even with the boy caning it round the lanes yesterday!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: doog on 09 November 2008, 17:34:55
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Just a question on what brand forum members use in there Omega diesel, or any other diesel car for that matter.

Reason for asking is my TD smokes like hell with Sainsburys "City Diesel" but wasn't half as bad on Asda diesel even after having it chipped. I did use the Sainsburys stuff some time ago but stopped using it until recently forced to while the Asda station was out of action.

What diesel burns the cleanest do you think, Shell, BP and Total I'm thinking of using, obviously price permitting.

Mick

My Diesel runs on 80% used cooking oil (filtered) 20% tescos diesel  :y

Doug
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2008, 17:38:25
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I use optimax diesel or bp ultimate diesel, i know its more expensive to buy but i get far more to the gallon and the car runs so much smoother on it, also very little smoke even with the boy caning it round the lanes yesterday!!!!  ;D
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I just felt at home in it  :-[
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: waspy on 09 November 2008, 17:40:50
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Just a question on what brand forum members use in there Omega diesel, or any other diesel car for that matter.

Reason for asking is my TD smokes like hell with Sainsburys "City Diesel" but wasn't half as bad on Asda diesel even after having it chipped. I did use the Sainsburys stuff some time ago but stopped using it until recently forced to while the Asda station was out of action.

What diesel burns the cleanest do you think, Shell, BP and Total I'm thinking of using, obviously price permitting.

Mick

My Diesel runs on 80% used cooking oil (filtered) 20% tescos diesel  :y

Doug

I used to do that with my old Rover :y :y Though i thought we couldn't run our Migs on it or is that just the 2.2 :-/
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: Essex_Andy on 09 November 2008, 17:49:52
Put it this way............

I deliver fuel to super markets...I use BP in everthing that has an engine....even in my chainsaw and lawnmower!!!!!!!!!!

For some reason supermarkets have the diesel tanks deep cleaned at silly o'clock in night/morning to remove algae that blooms in there.

Diesel is diluted with palm oil. Unfortunately I dont believe there is  a consistent quality control with fuels refined abroad. Diesel fuel retains water and with the palm oil thrown in you have a nice damp enviroment with food for algae.

As far I know BP have a refining plant or two in the UK and so does Esso.

As far as I'm aware every other retailer buys and transfers from terminals that ship the basic fuel in.

The retailer then buys the base fuel from the terminals and decides on what additives to add to the base fuel.

Fuel does go stale.....

1)How long has it taken for the base fuel to reach the UK?
2)How long has it been in storage before shipping?
3)How long in storage before being trucked to the forecourts?
4)Where was it refined?
5)Who refined it?


I'm sure there's more questions to add.....

Find a busy BP or Esso forecourt near you that by its activity means regular fuel deliveries so no old stock.

I think, dont quote me though, BP have the contract to supply Sainsbury but I'm guessing with lower spec additives or minimal additives.


Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: Omegatoy on 09 November 2008, 19:38:45
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I use optimax diesel or bp ultimate diesel, i know its more expensive to buy but i get far more to the gallon and the car runs so much smoother on it, also very little smoke even with the boy caning it round the lanes yesterday!!!!  ;D
::)

I just felt at home in it  :-[


yep for a guy out of practice thought you handled the stick very nicely, you looking for a manual now then>>> ;D
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2008, 19:41:59
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I use optimax diesel or bp ultimate diesel, i know its more expensive to buy but i get far more to the gallon and the car runs so much smoother on it, also very little smoke even with the boy caning it round the lanes yesterday!!!!  ;D
::)

I just felt at home in it  :-[


yep for a guy out of practice thought you handled the stick very nicely, you looking for a manual now then>>> ;D
If it wasn't an estate, I would bite your hand off for that motor  :'(
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: Omegatoy on 09 November 2008, 19:48:00
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I use optimax diesel or bp ultimate diesel, i know its more expensive to buy but i get far more to the gallon and the car runs so much smoother on it, also very little smoke even with the boy caning it round the lanes yesterday!!!!  ;D
::)

I just felt at home in it  :-[


yep for a guy out of practice thought you handled the stick very nicely, you looking for a manual now then>>> ;D
If it wasn't an estate, I would bite your hand off for that motor  :'(
LOL Just spent all afternoon sorting out the stuck tensioner arm  and noisy pulleys etc and fitting a nice new water pump just because i had it all off, finally have a nice quiet runnng diesel,
the creak was annoying me when i shut the engine off!!!! back how it should be now!!! :y
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2008, 19:51:33
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LOL Just spent all afternoon sorting out the stuck tensioner arm  and noisy pulleys etc and fitting a nice new water pump just because i had it all off, finally have a nice quiet runnng diesel,
the creak was annoying me when i shut the engine off!!!! back how it should be now!!! :y
:y
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: platty on 09 November 2008, 21:00:49
I have only ever used Tesco's because I have their credit card/clubcard. Smokes quite a bit but does reasonable mpg.

Had to use BP on a couple of occasions and it has felt better (might be psychlogical) but still smoked.

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LOL Just spent all afternoon sorting out the stuck tensioner arm  and noisy pulleys etc
Wish I had done this to mine before it snapped the tensioner off!!!!  :-[



Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: Omegatoy on 09 November 2008, 21:23:59
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I have only ever used Tesco's because I have their credit card/clubcard. Smokes quite a bit but does reasonable mpg.

Had to use BP on a couple of occasions and it has felt better (might be psychlogical) but still smoked.

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LOL Just spent all afternoon sorting out the stuck tensioner arm  and noisy pulleys etc
Wish I had done this to mine before it snapped the tensioner off!!!!  :-[




didnt appear to have anything really wrong with it,l me and the boy swapped the lower pulley yesterday as mine had a grumbly bearing, but the clue was when i switched off there was a horrible creaking noise as it stopped, If i put tension on the belt by pushing it hard in the long run i could recreate the creaking noise, so i pulled it all apart today to check, shimmed up the play in the tensioner stripped and regreased the arm on its spindle(was jammed with spanish dust that had turned to concrete)
stripped the dust covers off the pulleys and regreased the bearings,
fitted new water pump(steel impellor of course purely because i had it )
And this bit will please the boy!! it got to dark to refit the viscous fan!!!
so its going to run next week without it!! the creak is no longer there the engine is definetly quieter  and now it just switches off with no nasty or strange noises!!Havent driven it yet as was to cold when i finished but ran it up for half an hour before i got into a steaming hot bath :y
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: platty on 09 November 2008, 21:54:52
Sounds like a thorough job! I'd leave the viscous off; but I'm not in Spain!

 I just started mine last week and there was a "twang!" and the battery light came on... tensioner snapped clean in half at the pivot and thrown itself into viscous and smashed air con belt tensioner pulley, long belt ripped aart and bent idler pulley...nice!

£80 later and a big thanks to Andy C - its all sorted!
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: TheBoy on 10 November 2008, 08:21:04
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I have only ever used Tesco's because I have their credit card/clubcard. Smokes quite a bit but does reasonable mpg.

Had to use BP on a couple of occasions and it has felt better (might be psychlogical) but still smoked.

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LOL Just spent all afternoon sorting out the stuck tensioner arm  and noisy pulleys etc
Wish I had done this to mine before it snapped the tensioner off!!!!  :-[




didnt appear to have anything really wrong with it,l me and the boy swapped the lower pulley yesterday as mine had a grumbly bearing, but the clue was when i switched off there was a horrible creaking noise as it stopped, If i put tension on the belt by pushing it hard in the long run i could recreate the creaking noise, so i pulled it all apart today to check, shimmed up the play in the tensioner stripped and regreased the arm on its spindle(was jammed with spanish dust that had turned to concrete)
stripped the dust covers off the pulleys and regreased the bearings,
fitted new water pump(steel impellor of course purely because i had it )
And this bit will please the boy!! it got to dark to refit the viscous fan!!!
so its going to run next week without it!! the creak is no longer there the engine is definetly quieter  and now it just switches off with no nasty or strange noises!!Havent driven it yet as was to cold when i finished but ran it up for half an hour before i got into a steaming hot bath :y
As your viscous works, remember to store it upright at all times, but I'm sure you know that.

Will be interesting if your engine now gets up to temp better - you saw mine runs bang on 95C all the time (on the guage).

Might be worth considering changing stat if its still a little cold  :-/ (10 min job if no viscous on ;) - though need to retop and bleed coolant obviously)
Title: Re: Diesel, not price but what do you use?
Post by: doog on 10 November 2008, 10:42:38
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Just a question on what brand forum members use in there Omega diesel, or any other diesel car for that matter.

Reason for asking is my TD smokes like hell with Sainsburys "City Diesel" but wasn't half as bad on Asda diesel even after having it chipped. I did use the Sainsburys stuff some time ago but stopped using it until recently forced to while the Asda station was out of action.

What diesel burns the cleanest do you think, Shell, BP and Total I'm thinking of using, obviously price permitting.

Mick

My Diesel runs on 80% used cooking oil (filtered) 20% tescos diesel  :y

Doug

I used to do that with my old Rover :y :y Though i thought we couldn't run our Migs on it or is that just the 2.2 :-/


I have a friend who ran his 6 cyl omega diesel on used cooking oil for 3 years
you need to pay attention to the fuel filters but other than that its fine
he covered tens of thousands of trouble free miles.

I dont recommend it in the 4cyl vaux diesels tho the pumps dont like it

Doug