I'm not going to bother posting here; who does he think he is? ;D coming in here and interrupting us...blimmin' gatecrashers.
Seriously though, I would have to say that in my many years of forums, this is by far and away THE least cliquey place I have ever come across.
Practically all members were new at some point. I have only been a member since I got my Omega in march.
Maybe it's me or something? :-[
I think you have it wrong mate, a great set of lads on here :yand lasses :y :y :y :y and of course Loo-knee himself. ;D ;D ;D ;D
I joined a worldwide bike forum a year or so ago. It seemed to be run by and for the benifit of about 10 people.If you tried to get involved or join in they got pretty snotty and sarcastic.
could have been the fact that I am extremely dislikeable,not sure really,dont care either. :D ::)
I joined a worldwide bike forum a year or so ago. It seemed to be run by and for the benifit of about 10 people.If you tried to get involved or join in they got pretty snotty and sarcastic.
could have been the fact that I am extremely dislikeable,not sure really,dont care either. :D ::)
being a member of many forums i can honestly say that this is the most clique. it appears that unless you are well known then most nof your threads will be ignored. it regularly apprears that a lesser known member will post somthing and get get next to no replies but a better known memeber will post something similar and will get plenty of repiles
QuoteI think you have it wrong mate, a great set of lads on here :yand lasses :y :y :y :y and of course Loo-knee himself. ;D ;D ;D ;D
QuoteQuoteI think you have it wrong mate, a great set of lads on here :yand lasses :y :y :y :y and of course Loo-knee himself. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just cause you have posted some extremely nice pictures at long last, doesn't mean you can start getting bitchy :P ;D
How very dare you, Belfast born and bred. :y ;D....came to stay with my sister in Essex in 79, got "tangled" coz I was too young to know any better,been stuck here ever since. :'( :'( :DQuoteI joined a worldwide bike forum a year or so ago. It seemed to be run by and for the benifit of about 10 people.If you tried to get involved or join in they got pretty snotty and sarcastic.
could have been the fact that I am extremely dislikeable,not sure really,dont care either. :D ::)
is that coz your an essex boy. ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
you love me really Daz. :-* :P :D ;DQuoteI joined a worldwide bike forum a year or so ago. It seemed to be run by and for the benifit of about 10 people.If you tried to get involved or join in they got pretty snotty and sarcastic.
could have been the fact that I am extremely dislikeable,not sure really,dont care either. :D ::)
Yeah Albs, you ain't a nice fella at all are ya :-* :P ;D :D
Sorry you feel like that Kris. We were all newbies once & it is a busy forum but it's entertaining given the variety of good & bad topics. Try a meeting or two next year. My first was Lakes 07. The admins just drink, eat, fix, laugh, & chat the same as anyone else.
Whilst i'm an utter gobsh&te i don't answer every post i read but your user name is becoming familiar now to me & i'm sure others.
Some of us have become personal friends but the gates are open to others mate. :y
being a member of many forums i can honestly say that this is the most clique. it appears that unless you are well known then most nof your threads will be ignored. it regularly apprears that a lesser known member will post somthing and get get next to no replies but a better known memeber will post something similar and will get plenty of repiles
Quoteyou love me really Daz. :-* :P :D ;DQuoteI joined a worldwide bike forum a year or so ago. It seemed to be run by and for the benifit of about 10 people.If you tried to get involved or join in they got pretty snotty and sarcastic.
could have been the fact that I am extremely dislikeable,not sure really,dont care either. :D ::)
Yeah Albs, you ain't a nice fella at all are ya :-* :P ;D :D
steady Daz, you know I was never confused. :D ;D ;DQuoteQuoteyou love me really Daz. :-* :P :D ;DQuoteI joined a worldwide bike forum a year or so ago. It seemed to be run by and for the benifit of about 10 people.If you tried to get involved or join in they got pretty snotty and sarcastic.
could have been the fact that I am extremely dislikeable,not sure really,dont care either. :D ::)
Yeah Albs, you ain't a nice fella at all are ya :-* :P ;D :D
Yes I do mate you know that :-* :-* :-* :-*
I have very rarely seen a thread that has not had a single reply, and also very rare for a thread not to get a reply within the hour.
In fact technical thread questions I have have sometimes seem 5 replies to a question in as many minutes.
ooooh 2 pages, think this'll help with the amout of replies.
skruntie put some of your page 3 pics up, that'll get more response ;D ;D
sorry kris, if you don't like the people on here then as has been said, go try vx0n.
they are All for 1 and 1 for 1 :y
been there and seen it.
Maybe it's just me, but I've never been too keen on the different tan colours on the tits - where she's sunbathed in her bikini.
She should sunbathe topless instead :)
Maybe it's just me, but I've never been too keen on the different tan colours on the tits - where she's sunbathed in her bikini.Been telling Claudia Schiffer that for years,but will she listen....... :D
She should sunbathe topless instead :)
That's told me off then then Jimbob. :-/
I was thinking about this earlier. Does the fact that there is a post count next to the posters name matter?
Perhaps it's paranoia, but it would be easier to 'dismiss' a newbie poster because it's clear that they are new. If a post count wasn't displayed, then it would not be easy to work out who is new and who isn't.
Just my 2p. I personally, in my short time here, have found the forum very helpful and friendly.
Nope..not cliquey..
I think I'm a real proof to that..And obviously I never physically meet
somebody from the forum..But its been more than 2 years I'm here..
And talking too much ;D
At the beginning , people dont know who you are , dont know what
you like..You need to talk with them by posting to their threads..
So in time they learn some details about you and your reactions..
All comes after..
And I must note that its normal for the forum people to chat with the
known friends more than the others..Same is true also for my country
forums..if somebodys close to you , you can joke even make debate
to have good time..(and sometimes goes a little deeper ::) ) But
you cant do that for somebody stranger..
Stay..you will see in time.. :y
QuoteNope..not cliquey..
I think I'm a real proof to that..And obviously I never physically meet
somebody from the forum..But its been more than 2 years I'm here..
And talking too much ;D
At the beginning , people dont know who you are , dont know what
you like..You need to talk with them by posting to their threads..
So in time they learn some details about you and your reactions..
All comes after..
And I must note that its normal for the forum people to chat with the
known friends more than the others..Same is true also for my country
forums..if somebodys close to you , you can joke even make debate
to have good time..(and sometimes goes a little deeper ::) ) But
you cant do that for somebody stranger..
Stay..you will see in time.. :y
OOF's philosopher ;D
BTW Cem, I see interest rates have been lowered in Turkey. From 16.75% to 16.25% :o
;D I want to see the 6 malcontents whom voted 'cliquey'; named and shamed! ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
further to Kris's other thread from this morning, i feel the poll on this thread is not needed
being a member of many forums i can honestly say that this is the most clique. it appears that unless you are well known then most nof your threads will be ignored. it regularly apprears that a lesser known member will post somthing and get get next to no replies but a better known memeber will post something similar and will get plenty of repiles
well i like it on here, wouldnt come on if i dont. its not hard to suss out peoples personalities from behind a screen, and i havent come across anyone i dislike yet. they say you never stop learning and to be honest i do learn something new everyday on here. hopefully one day i'll come to a meet and sit in the corner all weekend on my own being ignored ;D ;D ;D
I know but i dont agree that people are still able to say its unfair what he said when he's now apologised and retracted his outburst
I think you have it wrong mate, a great set of lads on here :y
Quotewell i like it on here, wouldnt come on if i dont. its not hard to suss out peoples personalities from behind a screen, and i havent come across anyone i dislike yet. they say you never stop learning and to be honest i do learn something new everyday on here. hopefully one day i'll come to a meet and sit in the corner all weekend on my own being ignored ;D ;D ;D
Only Steve (STMO123) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
QuoteQuotewell i like it on here, wouldnt come on if i dont. its not hard to suss out peoples personalities from behind a screen, and i havent come across anyone i dislike yet. they say you never stop learning and to be honest i do learn something new everyday on here. hopefully one day i'll come to a meet and sit in the corner all weekend on my own being ignored ;D ;D ;D
Only Steve (STMO123) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
But I still love you Pete :-*
£1500 for your mig
QuoteQuoteQuotewell i like it on here, wouldnt come on if i dont. its not hard to suss out peoples personalities from behind a screen, and i havent come across anyone i dislike yet. they say you never stop learning and to be honest i do learn something new everyday on here. hopefully one day i'll come to a meet and sit in the corner all weekend on my own being ignored ;D ;D ;D
Only Steve (STMO123) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
But I still love you Pete :-*
£1500 for your mig
Yeh ok, i will even deliver it for that..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewell i like it on here, wouldnt come on if i dont. its not hard to suss out peoples personalities from behind a screen, and i havent come across anyone i dislike yet. they say you never stop learning and to be honest i do learn something new everyday on here. hopefully one day i'll come to a meet and sit in the corner all weekend on my own being ignored ;D ;D ;D
Only Steve (STMO123) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
But I still love you Pete :-*
£1500 for your mig
Yeh ok, i will even deliver it for that..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
!2 months tax, 12 months MOT, a go of your wife....and daughter(s) and it's a deal. ;D ;D ;D
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewell i like it on here, wouldnt come on if i dont. its not hard to suss out peoples personalities from behind a screen, and i havent come across anyone i dislike yet. they say you never stop learning and to be honest i do learn something new everyday on here. hopefully one day i'll come to a meet and sit in the corner all weekend on my own being ignored ;D ;D ;D
Only Steve (STMO123) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
But I still love you Pete :-*
£1500 for your mig
Yeh ok, i will even deliver it for that..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
!2 months tax, 12 months MOT, a go of your wife....and daughter(s) and it's a deal. ;D ;D ;D
Git, throw in a box of mince pies and i may think about it.. ;D ;D ;D
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewell i like it on here, wouldnt come on if i dont. its not hard to suss out peoples personalities from behind a screen, and i havent come across anyone i dislike yet. they say you never stop learning and to be honest i do learn something new everyday on here. hopefully one day i'll come to a meet and sit in the corner all weekend on my own being ignored ;D ;D ;D
Only Steve (STMO123) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
But I still love you Pete :-*
£1500 for your mig
Yeh ok, i will even deliver it for that..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
!2 months tax, 12 months MOT, a go of your wife....and daughter(s) and it's a deal. ;D ;D ;D
Git, throw in a box of mince pies and i may think about it.. ;D ;D ;D
AARRGGHH. NOT THE MINCE PIES!! PLEASE!!!
You'll start them all off and we'll be talking food for days. :(
;D I want to see the 6 malcontents whom voted 'cliquey'; named and shamed! ;D8 now. I am one.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote;D I want to see the 6 malcontents whom voted 'cliquey'; named and shamed! ;D8 now. I am one.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
This place can feel clquey for a noob, precisely because there is a core of people who came from a previous forum and outside them another layer of people who have met up (Lakes, Newent etc).
But the analogy of a local pub is a good one. If you want to sit up at the bar with the locals, you need to make an effort. It won't happen by looking on thinking "bloody hell it's cliquey".
With any bunch of people, there will always be in-jokes etc that doesn't help. But that's natural and shouldn't be changed.
Lastly, writing style.
I am an engineer and a lot of my communication is written. As a result, my style can cause something perfectly balanced and reasonable in my mind to be typed and posted - only to come accross as curt and sometimes aggressive. The reaction to it comes as a shock in those cases and back pedalling results.
Quote;D I want to see the 6 malcontents whom voted 'cliquey'; named and shamed! ;D8 now. I am one.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
This place can feel clquey for a noob, precisely because there is a core of people who came from a previous forum and outside them another layer of people who have met up (Lakes, Newent etc).
But the analogy of a local pub is a good one. If you want to sit up at the bar with the locals, you need to make an effort. It won't happen by looking on thinking "bloody hell it's cliquey".
With any bunch of people, there will always be in-jokes etc that doesn't help. But that's natural and shouldn't be changed.
Lastly, writing style.
I am an engineer and a lot of my communication is written. As a result, my style can cause something perfectly balanced and reasonable in my mind to be typed and posted - only to come accross as curt and sometimes aggressive. The reaction to it comes as a shock in those cases and back pedalling results.
We all do it. And we all wake up the next morning thinking "break, I wish I hadn't said that".QuoteQuote;D I want to see the 6 malcontents whom voted 'cliquey'; named and shamed! ;D8 now. I am one.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
This place can feel clquey for a noob, precisely because there is a core of people who came from a previous forum and outside them another layer of people who have met up (Lakes, Newent etc).
But the analogy of a local pub is a good one. If you want to sit up at the bar with the locals, you need to make an effort. It won't happen by looking on thinking "bloody hell it's cliquey".
With any bunch of people, there will always be in-jokes etc that doesn't help. But that's natural and shouldn't be changed.
Lastly, writing style.
I am an engineer and a lot of my communication is written. As a result, my style can cause something perfectly balanced and reasonable in my mind to be typed and posted - only to come accross as curt and sometimes aggressive. The reaction to it comes as a shock in those cases and back pedalling results.
That sounded a bit curt to me >:(
And aggressive :D
Don't mention mince pies I bake them and Christmas is coming and I'm not looking forward to making about 5,000 of the bl@@dy things by hand :o.QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewell i like it on here, wouldnt come on if i dont. its not hard to suss out peoples personalities from behind a screen, and i havent come across anyone i dislike yet. they say you never stop learning and to be honest i do learn something new everyday on here. hopefully one day i'll come to a meet and sit in the corner all weekend on my own being ignored ;D ;D ;D
Only Steve (STMO123) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
But I still love you Pete :-*
£1500 for your mig
Yeh ok, i will even deliver it for that..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
!2 months tax, 12 months MOT, a go of your wife....and daughter(s) and it's a deal. ;D ;D ;D
Git, throw in a box of mince pies and i may think about it.. ;D ;D ;D
QuoteDon't mention mince pies I bake them and Christmas is coming and I'm not looking forward to making about 5,000 of the bl@@dy things by hand :o.QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewell i like it on here, wouldnt come on if i dont. its not hard to suss out peoples personalities from behind a screen, and i havent come across anyone i dislike yet. they say you never stop learning and to be honest i do learn something new everyday on here. hopefully one day i'll come to a meet and sit in the corner all weekend on my own being ignored ;D ;D ;D
Only Steve (STMO123) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
But I still love you Pete :-*
£1500 for your mig
Yeh ok, i will even deliver it for that..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
!2 months tax, 12 months MOT, a go of your wife....and daughter(s) and it's a deal. ;D ;D ;D
Git, throw in a box of mince pies and i may think about it.. ;D ;D ;D
As for clicky naaa
QuoteDon't mention mince pies I bake them and Christmas is coming and I'm not looking forward to making about 5,000 of the bl@@dy things by hand :o.As for clicky naaaQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewell i like it on here, wouldnt come on if i dont. its not hard to suss out peoples personalities from behind a screen, and i havent come across anyone i dislike yet. they say you never stop learning and to be honest i do learn something new everyday on here. hopefully one day i'll come to a meet and sit in the corner all weekend on my own being ignored ;D ;D ;D
Only Steve (STMO123) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
But I still love you Pete :-*
£1500 for your mig
Yeh ok, i will even deliver it for that..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
!2 months tax, 12 months MOT, a go of your wife....and daughter(s) and it's a deal. ;D ;D ;D
Git, throw in a box of mince pies and i may think about it.. ;D ;D ;D
The last thing we want is people to think that this is cliquey.It does feel cliquey to a newcomer. It's part of the definition of 'noob' I think.
In the General Help section, most of the problems are seen through to a satisfactory conclusion, in my experience.
The General Chat, well some members do a lot of posting, rib tickling etc. others take a little time to get known.
I baked a stack for the Newent cam belt party earlier this year thinking you might turn up but you didn't :-/ so we had to eat them all ourselves :)QuoteQuoteDon't mention mince pies I bake them and Christmas is coming and I'm not looking forward to making about 5,000 of the bl@@dy things by hand :o.QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewell i like it on here, wouldnt come on if i dont. its not hard to suss out peoples personalities from behind a screen, and i havent come across anyone i dislike yet. they say you never stop learning and to be honest i do learn something new everyday on here. hopefully one day i'll come to a meet and sit in the corner all weekend on my own being ignored ;D ;D ;D
Only Steve (STMO123) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
But I still love you Pete :-*
£1500 for your mig
Yeh ok, i will even deliver it for that..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
!2 months tax, 12 months MOT, a go of your wife....and daughter(s) and it's a deal. ;D ;D ;D
Git, throw in a box of mince pies and i may think about it.. ;D ;D ;D
As for clicky naaa
Send some this way...money waiting :y
QuoteI baked a stack for the Newent cam belt party earlier this year thinking you might turn up but you didn't :-/ so we had to eat them all ourselves :)QuoteQuoteDon't mention mince pies I bake them and Christmas is coming and I'm not looking forward to making about 5,000 of the bl@@dy things by hand :o.QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewell i like it on here, wouldnt come on if i dont. its not hard to suss out peoples personalities from behind a screen, and i havent come across anyone i dislike yet. they say you never stop learning and to be honest i do learn something new everyday on here. hopefully one day i'll come to a meet and sit in the corner all weekend on my own being ignored ;D ;D ;D
Only Steve (STMO123) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
But I still love you Pete :-*
£1500 for your mig
Yeh ok, i will even deliver it for that..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
!2 months tax, 12 months MOT, a go of your wife....and daughter(s) and it's a deal. ;D ;D ;D
Git, throw in a box of mince pies and i may think about it.. ;D ;D ;D
As for clicky naaa
Send some this way...money waiting :y
QuoteQuoteI baked a stack for the Newent cam belt party earlier this year thinking you might turn up but you didn't :-/ so we had to eat them all ourselves :)QuoteQuoteDon't mention mince pies I bake them and Christmas is coming and I'm not looking forward to making about 5,000 of the bl@@dy things by hand :o.QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewell i like it on here, wouldnt come on if i dont. its not hard to suss out peoples personalities from behind a screen, and i havent come across anyone i dislike yet. they say you never stop learning and to be honest i do learn something new everyday on here. hopefully one day i'll come to a meet and sit in the corner all weekend on my own being ignored ;D ;D ;D
Only Steve (STMO123) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
But I still love you Pete :-*
£1500 for your mig
Yeh ok, i will even deliver it for that..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
!2 months tax, 12 months MOT, a go of your wife....and daughter(s) and it's a deal. ;D ;D ;D
Git, throw in a box of mince pies and i may think about it.. ;D ;D ;D
As for clicky naaa
Send some this way...money waiting :y
I ate some of the telford ones ;) but must have missed the newent ones...maybe they were too soggy ;D
No more quoting, it's nearly a page per post. :o
;D I want to see the 6 malcontents whom voted 'cliquey'; named and shamed! ;DOppps, one of those is mine ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
QuoteQuote;D I want to see the 6 malcontents whom voted 'cliquey'; named and shamed! ;D8 now. I am one.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
This place can feel clquey for a noob, precisely because there is a core of people who came from a previous forum and outside them another layer of people who have met up (Lakes, Newent etc).
But the analogy of a local pub is a good one. If you want to sit up at the bar with the locals, you need to make an effort. It won't happen by looking on thinking "bloody hell it's cliquey".
With any bunch of people, there will always be in-jokes etc that doesn't help. But that's natural and shouldn't be changed.
Lastly, writing style.
I am an engineer and a lot of my communication is written. As a result, my style can cause something perfectly balanced and reasonable in my mind to be typed and posted - only to come accross as curt and sometimes aggressive. The reaction to it comes as a shock in those cases and back pedalling results.
I spend half my life back pedalling, but usually because I put my mouth into gear before engaging my brain ::)
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by the way I like it how you say.. :y :y
Quote......
by the way I like it how you say.. :y :y
We'll get you completely fluent in English too. I notice that you're even able to swear quite well in English now. ;) ;D ;D :y :y
You're right it is cliquey - 1 big clique full of old men with Vauxhall Omegas with nothing better to do. :P
But that's why I'm still here :y :)
QuoteYou're right it is cliquey - 1 big clique full of old men with Vauxhall Omegas with nothing better to do. :P
But that's why I'm still here :y :)
;D ;D
QuoteQuoteYou're right it is cliquey - 1 big clique full of old men with Vauxhall Omegas with nothing better to do. :P;D ;D
But that's why I'm still here :y :)
Not forgetting our non resident friends too :-*
I dont think this place is cliquey at all.
There is however, an in-crowd. This is envitable, some of use have been here a long time, and have history before that, and have met on several, some many occasions.
The in-crowd also make this place what it is....4466 members, probably 50 very regular contributors, and another few hundred occasional posters. So there is obviously going to be a bit of a reportie between the regulars.
That said, it is by no means a closed group.
As for posts being ignored, I have been aware of one or 2, what I have noticed is if a 'newbie' posts a joke, that noone finds funny, it would tend to get ignored, rather than a load of get your coat type replies a regular would get, but that is surely being polite to someone you don't know?
Also at the meets, I have seen 'unknowns' being made very welcome, with only one exception to that rule of a member who was trying to attend with 2 parties and had a conflict of interest, and was upset the entire oof wouldnt join his other party.
I have also 1st hand seen what happens when a newbie is treated like a regular, with an innocent double entendre that was taken completely the wrong way, which could have easily been resolved, but quickly turned into a big deal.
other things that could make this place appear unwelcoming is the abrubt way newbies are told of their wrongdoing, I know some are obviously just trying it on to try and make a sale, but there are countless "Fill in your profile" requests, when a "If you put some details about yourself in your profile, it will really help us diagnose you problem, you may even find a local member offers to help" would be much friendlier. This is the internet after all, we are all well aware of the warnings about not revealing personal info, so people may well be reluctant to comply to such a 'demand' from a bunch of strangersm, however good our intentions are.
QuoteI dont think this place is cliquey at all.
There is however, an in-crowd. This is envitable, some of use have been here a long time, and have history before that, and have met on several, some many occasions.
The in-crowd also make this place what it is....4466 members, probably 50 very regular contributors, and another few hundred occasional posters. So there is obviously going to be a bit of a reportie between the regulars.
That said, it is by no means a closed group.
As for posts being ignored, I have been aware of one or 2, what I have noticed is if a 'newbie' posts a joke, that noone finds funny, it would tend to get ignored, rather than a load of get your coat type replies a regular would get, but that is surely being polite to someone you don't know?
Also at the meets, I have seen 'unknowns' being made very welcome, with only one exception to that rule of a member who was trying to attend with 2 parties and had a conflict of interest, and was upset the entire oof wouldnt join his other party.
I have also 1st hand seen what happens when a newbie is treated like a regular, with an innocent double entendre that was taken completely the wrong way, which could have easily been resolved, but quickly turned into a big deal.
other things that could make this place appear unwelcoming is the abrubt way newbies are told of their wrongdoing, I know some are obviously just trying it on to try and make a sale, but there are countless "Fill in your profile" requests, when a "If you put some details about yourself in your profile, it will really help us diagnose you problem, you may even find a local member offers to help" would be much friendlier. This is the internet after all, we are all well aware of the warnings about not revealing personal info, so people may well be reluctant to comply to such a 'demand' from a bunch of strangersm, however good our intentions are.
I also was made very welcome and had a few problems a while ago with my camcovers needed a few parts etc....on a saturday night and within 1/2 hour a kind man offered me the parts that i needed,without knowing who i was and then he gives me his home address,phone number and lets me collect the parts at 9pm at night,then when i asked how much he wanted he said to just replace them and drop them off when passing his area,
And then another kind man collected alloys from his country Scotland and delivered them to Wales to me even after being told that his route of travel had been changed and that he did'nt have to go nowhere near Wales,just goes to show the great people that are on here
cheers Jimbob :y and Jim :y (and thats only 2 members of this excellent forum but now i can't wait to meet more of my fellow oofers)
:y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
Quote;D I want to see the 6 malcontents whom voted 'cliquey'; named and shamed! ;DOppps, one of those is mine ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
:-? what does cliquey mean cos i havn't got a dictionary to llok it up :-?
i feel quite welcome on this site' even though my tractors messy ...... behaviour .....
Quotei feel quite welcome on this site' even though my tractors messy ...... behaviour .....
It certainly didn't behave very well outside Guy's house when it filled the gutter!!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
I think the poll needs another option. I want to vote for one that says:
"I can see why it can come across as cliquey to newer members, but having been here a while believe it not to be the case".
I think the poll needs another option. I want to vote for one that says:Agreed James :y
"I can see why it can come across as cliquey to newer members, but having been here a while believe it not to be the case".
Strange, if you want help with a problem i can think of nowhere better, more informed, knowledgeable, helpfull, the effort some people put in to this forum i find incredible. They do it for free, for love, they want to help, pass on what they know... A post like this "could" be upsetting to those people who work so hard for the love of it?
Simple fact is you can not please all of the people all of the time.
Another fact, on here at least, people will still try to keep everyone happy...
Assume it is clique, what do you do about it? :-/ :-/
Strange, if you want help with a problem i can think of nowhere better, more informed, knowledgeable, helpfull, the effort some people put in to this forum i find incredible. They do it for free, for love, they want to help, pass on what they know... A post like this "could" be upsetting to those people who work so hard for the love of it?not at all - we achieved (imho) our initial goal of become the world's best online Omega resource, we now need to stay the best - and we can't do that we our heads up our backsides assuming everything is rosy, when clearly they is a perception of a closed group.
Simple fact is you can not please all of the people all of the time.
Another fact, on here at least, people will still try to keep everyone happy...
Assume it is clique, what do you do about it? :-/ :-/
People need to meet up in person at one of the various meets up & down the country. Untill they do, names are just that & in the majority of cases I don't think it's possible to 'know' anyone till you have put a face to a name.
QuotePeople need to meet up in person at one of the various meets up & down the country. Until they do, names are just that & in the majority of cases I don't think it's possible to 'know' anyone till you have put a face to a name.
I have never been to a meet and the thought of actually having to look at you lot fills me with dread.
Actually THIS PLACE IS CLIQUEY! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thats only because your not invited ;DQuotePeople need to meet up in person at one of the various meets up & down the country. Untill they do, names are just that & in the majority of cases I don't think it's possible to 'know' anyone till you have put a face to a name.
I have never been to a meet and the thought of actually having to look at you lot fills me with dread.
Not fair to change the poll at this point! ;D
How cliquey is that?????? ;D
QuoteNot fair to change the poll at this point! ;D
How cliquey is that?????? ;D
You can vote again if you want.
Ok,so the answer is?QuoteStrange, if you want help with a problem i can think of nowhere better, more informed, knowledgeable, helpfull, the effort some people put in to this forum i find incredible. They do it for free, for love, they want to help, pass on what they know... A post like this "could" be upsetting to those people who work so hard for the love of it?not at all - we achieved (imho) our initial goal of become the world's best online Omega resource, we now need to stay the best - and we can't do that we our heads up our backsides assuming everything is rosy, when clearly they is a perception of a closed group.
Simple fact is you can not please all of the people all of the time.
Another fact, on here at least, people will still try to keep everyone happy...
Assume it is clique, what do you do about it? :-/ :-/
QuoteOk,so the answer is?QuoteStrange, if you want help with a problem i can think of nowhere better, more informed, knowledgeable, helpfull, the effort some people put in to this forum i find incredible. They do it for free, for love, they want to help, pass on what they know... A post like this "could" be upsetting to those people who work so hard for the love of it?not at all - we achieved (imho) our initial goal of become the world's best online Omega resource, we now need to stay the best - and we can't do that we our heads up our backsides assuming everything is rosy, when clearly they is a perception of a closed group.
Simple fact is you can not please all of the people all of the time.
Another fact, on here at least, people will still try to keep everyone happy...
Assume it is clique, what do you do about it? :-/ :-/
So is there anything we can do about it?
I think there might be (and this is in no way a criticism of what is done now, but just suggestions to take it to the next level)
- How about a more verbose and carefully crafted version of the automatic e-mail that is sent when someone 1st registers that takes time to explain, and welcome, them into the fold. I know that the "New Members" section really works well, but do all new members actually use it? A more pro-active direction of a new member to create that all important "1st post" on that section would be useful.
- I know this bit may sound like gratuitous promotion of the OOF map, but trust me it is an admin overhead for me to manage, but that introduction e-mail could contain details about this and help them to understand that we are about and real people. Many of whom will proabably be local to them and prepared to help them.
- Perhaps a "new member" alerting mechanism or list that can then let other members see who has joined most recently and provides links to their 1st couple of posts. This way existing members who are worried about this could be enabled to take a more pro-active approach to seek out those posts and respond.
- Perhaps when new members join they could be highlighted to longer term members with a marker other than the amount of posts delivered; suggesting a "date joined" perhaps?
- How about a pro-active approach to inviting members to find out more about regional meets? If you can mandate the "location" field (with a constrained County drop down list) during the registration process, you may then be able to target them with PM's that tell them about more local meets and also provide them with lists of other members in their local area thereby creating more of a "community spirit".
These are all "straw man" suggestions merely to start the thought process and debate and, as such may be complete b0llox or impractical technically, but they are at least some food for thought.