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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: mantahatch on 24 November 2008, 12:43:58
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Just browsing ebay as you do and come accross this, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1998-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-ELITE-V6-AUTO-RED_W0QQitemZ220317549590QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item220317549590&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Is it me or does it seem over priced ? or is right ?
Mike
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1) It IS very overpriced.
2) I wouldn't fit a cylinder tank in an estate!
3) That's a professional installation???? Injecting the LPG into the plenum is a big no-no! It makes it virtually the same as a mixer system! I reckon that's probably why it's going! :o :o
God I'm so glad I did my own installation... I've only seen 1 professional installation up to the same standard as mine... Entwood's :y :y
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if thats worth that, whats my s reg worth
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if thats worth that, whats my s reg worth
My thoughts exactly... Mine's on an s with a proper LPG conversion!!
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That LPG conversion probably has "straws" on the back of the nozzles, which reach down into the intake passages from the plenum to inject the gas down by the valve, so not as bad as it looks.
Better, IMHO, to drill and tap the manifold but it can be done that way and it saves removing the manifold.
Kevin
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That LPG conversion probably has "straws" on the back of the nozzles, which reach down into the intake passages from the plenum to inject the gas down by the valve, so not as bad as it looks.
Better, IMHO, to drill and tap the manifold but it can be done that way and it saves removing the manifold.
Kevin
True... But it looks bloody awful and not worth the money he paid. I would have gone ape if that was what was done to mine! That's why I went DIY and then you get what you're proud of, and something which doesn't look like it was fitted by a monkey! Straws are not an ideal method of injecting LPG... Just a compromise!!
I'm just glad you were willing to do my manifold because that was the only bit I wasn't 100% confident with :y :y :y
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True... But it looks bloody awful and not worth the money he paid. I would have gone ape if that was what was done to mine! That's why I went DIY and then you get what you're proud of, and something which doesn't look like it was fitted by a monkey! Straws are not an ideal method of injecting LPG... Just a compromise!!
I'm just glad you were willing to do my manifold because that was the only bit I wasn't 100% confident with :y :y :y
Agreed on all counts... and I hope he at least took the plenum off to drill and tap it. :o
He is dreaming with that price though. Look at the mileage! ::)
Kevin
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True... But it looks bloody awful and not worth the money he paid. I would have gone ape if that was what was done to mine! That's why I went DIY and then you get what you're proud of, and something which doesn't look like it was fitted by a monkey! Straws are not an ideal method of injecting LPG... Just a compromise!!
I'm just glad you were willing to do my manifold because that was the only bit I wasn't 100% confident with :y :y :y
Agreed on all counts... and I hope he at least took the plenum off to drill and tap it. :o
He is dreaming with that price though. Look at the mileage! ::)
Kevin
I doubt it!
Might stick mine up for £2995... Judging value from his advert it'd be a bargain ::) ::) :D :D
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Trying to make sense of paying £1800 for a conversion and then only doing 4k miles... I'll have a pound that it doesn't run right.
Oh... And the MAF will be shot soon to because he's fitted an oiled K&N ::) ::)
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That LPG conversion probably has "straws" on the back of the nozzles, which reach down into the intake passages from the plenum to inject the gas down by the valve, so not as bad as it looks.
Better, IMHO, to drill and tap the manifold but it can be done that way and it saves removing the manifold.
Kevin
Cant see how that can be so....the best they could do is get the 'straws' into the top 20-30mm of the inlet given that they are at an angle (how would you ever get the plenum off!)
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That LPG conversion probably has "straws" on the back of the nozzles, which reach down into the intake passages from the plenum to inject the gas down by the valve, so not as bad as it looks.
Better, IMHO, to drill and tap the manifold but it can be done that way and it saves removing the manifold.
Kevin
Cant see how that can be so....the best they could do is get the 'straws' into the top 20-30mm of the inlet given that they are at an angle (how would you ever get the plenum off!)
They are quite flexible so could get them further in but at the end of the day it isn't injected at the same point as the petrol is so you are going to have performance issues and a noticeable difference between petrol and LPG running, which (thanks to KW's drilling and fitting of my nozzles) I don't have :y :y :y
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err let me think !!!! crazy price :D :D
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I thought it was a tad over priced, just did not want to sound to sarcastic in case owner was on here ;D
Mike
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So.....somebody make an offer ;D
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So.....somebody make an offer ;D
£500 tops its done 203k miles :o
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So.....somebody make an offer ;D
£500 tops its done 203k miles :o
Well, the 'make an offer' box is there........... ::)
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I thought it was a tad over priced, just did not want to sound to sarcastic in case owner was on here ;D
Mike
Hadn't thought of that ::) ::) :-[ :-[
Sorry if I've offended the owner but just speaking my mind! :y :y
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That LPG conversion probably has "straws" on the back of the nozzles, which reach down into the intake passages from the plenum to inject the gas down by the valve, so not as bad as it looks.
Better, IMHO, to drill and tap the manifold but it can be done that way and it saves removing the manifold.
Kevin
Romano System N that is what mine had and I reused
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1) It IS very overpriced.
2) I wouldn't fit a cylinder tank in an estate!
3) That's a professional installation???? Injecting the LPG into the plenum is a big no-no! It makes it virtually the same as a mixer system! I reckon that's probably why it's going! :o :o
God I'm so glad I did my own installation... I've only seen 1 professional installation up to the same standard as mine... Entwood's :y :y
AutoGas WorldWide straws - work quite well but removing the plenum is a PITA
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True... But it looks bloody awful and not worth the money he paid. I would have gone ape if that was what was done to mine! That's why I went DIY and then you get what you're proud of, and something which doesn't look like it was fitted by a monkey! Straws are not an ideal method of injecting LPG... Just a compromise!!
I'm just glad you were willing to do my manifold because that was the only bit I wasn't 100% confident with :y :y :y
Agreed on all counts... and I hope he at least took the plenum off to drill and tap it. :o
He is dreaming with that price though. Look at the mileage! ::)
Kevin
You have to to install the cut injector cabling - that said I am thinking of moving to jets in the manifold but the flow on straws is quite good
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FIlter - that is where the evaportaor is
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I thought it was a tad over priced, just did not want to sound to sarcastic in case owner was on here ;D
Mike
How dare you all take the piss out of my car....it is worth every penny. ;D ;D :D.....Seriously though.....not in the real world as regards price.....done over 200,000 miles to boot. :-/ :y :y :y
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You have to to install the cut injector cabling - that said I am thinking of moving to jets in the manifold but the flow on straws is quite good
Ahh, yes. :-[
Keep meaning to remove all the piggy-back connectors from under my plenum and make up a new loom with a single multi-way plug to connect it to the LPG side.
TBH, if if runs OK on them I wouldn't worry. I can't imagine there's a lot in it, TBH. I read somewhere that it's better to inject vapour across the airflow rather than with it (as you would with a liquid fuel) to promote better mixing, so that might give the manifold nozzles a slight advantage but we're splitting hairs really. :-/
Kevin
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Trying to make sense of paying £1800 for a conversion and then only doing 4k miles... I'll have a pound that it doesn't run right.
Oh... And the MAF will be shot soon to because he's fitted an oiled K&N ::) ::)
why would that kill the MAF?
Doug
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why would that kill the MAF?
Doug
Oil from the filter will coat the sensing elements of the MAF. Not good to use a K&N with a MAF unless you're very sparing with the oil.
Kevin