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Title: The year is 1940....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 24 November 2008, 19:42:44
.....and the Allied troops are being beaten back by the Germans.

The following are some pictures taken by my Grandad after he was driven away from Dunkirk back into France.

I have also added the notes from the back of them.

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Belgian refugees on the outskirts of Nantes on June 17th 1940


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Refugees from Paris heading south


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20 km south of France


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Arrival for embarkment at La Rochelle - 22nd June 1940


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Loading civvies at La Rochelle for the trip home. Trip took 4 1/2 days


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Loading civvies and troops at La Rochelle


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Troops embarking on the end of the Mole at La Rochelle


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One boat sunk by aircraft outside La Rochelle harbour:

Note: This is the photo with the greatest impact for me. Research has shown that this was most likely the Lancastria which sank killing 4 thousand. My Grandad would have been on this boat but, it was full so had to go on the next one.


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Captain Wood of 'C' section 12th A.A Brigade with Sgt Bell (Section Sergent) and Sgt Holsman (W/S Sgt) on the boat home


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3 R.A.F. men have a well earned clean up on the boat home.


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Troops lining quarter on the boat deck. Men eat and sleep here.
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: markey mark on 24 November 2008, 19:49:10
some right history there mark !  :o
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: Martin_1962 on 24 November 2008, 19:49:48
Very interesting
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: TheBoy on 24 November 2008, 19:50:43
Not that many photos from that era it would appear.

Certainly in our family, we know of no photos, so sadly, we are missing lots of family history from that time.
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 24 November 2008, 19:50:51
I was amazed......very amazed and the quality is pretty good to.

Not as amazed as the story I have found out about my Grandad.
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: MikeDundee on 24 November 2008, 19:53:37
Great stuff :y........always interesting to have the backgorund to the pictures :y
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 24 November 2008, 19:56:24
Really interesting and historic pictures Mark which any historian, like I try to be, will highly value. 8-) 8-) ;) ;)   A lot can be gleaned from them! :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 24 November 2008, 20:04:04
The Lancastria

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/lancastria_02.shtml
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: TheBoy on 24 November 2008, 20:07:30
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Great stuff :y........always interesting to have the backgorund to the pictures :y
A bit of known history to photos increases their impact and usefulness :y
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: Andy B on 24 November 2008, 20:07:52
Fantastic set of photos.
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 24 November 2008, 20:11:38
We are requesting his service record as I know he also spent time in Africa.

My Grandpa was caught at Dunkirk trying to defend the lines.....he was than taken (on the walk of death) to Stalag XXA in Poland....he was not treated at all well and it nearly killed him.

He escaped in 1944 and made his way from Poland......to southern Italy! I can think of easier routes home!

He NEVER spoke of the war at all, he had seen some awful sights during captivity and wan-tent murder at Dunkirk.
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: razzo on 24 November 2008, 20:23:47
Fascinating piece of history, that must qualify as the worst maritime disaster of all time
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: gwa on 24 November 2008, 20:24:19
Great stuff - Have you considered contacting the Imperial War Museum  (maybe by Email) and tell them what you've got. They may be of interest and have you ever tried to contact the families of Captain Wood of 'C' section 12th A.A Brigade with Sgt Bell (Section Sergent) and Sgt Holsman (W/S Sgt), you never know someone may be doing family history and would love a copy.
 :)
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: VXL V6 on 24 November 2008, 20:24:28
My X Wifes grandparents both have tatoo'd marks on their arms from Auschwitz, they never speak of those times. I would guess the memories are too painful.

Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 24 November 2008, 20:32:19
Sorry to do this to you Marks, but the ship in your Grandfathers photograph is not the Lancastria I believe. ;)

In that photograph it shows a ship with a stern funnel, three masts, possibly therefore a tanker. :-/

This does not match the profile of the Lancastria as can be seen in the BBC site photograph, and a picture from a web site about this ship. ;)



(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/TheLancastria.jpg)

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/LancastriasunkbyaircraftoutsideLaRo.jpg)

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/lancastria_germans_direct_hit.jpg)


Sorry again for that! :D ;)
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 24 November 2008, 20:49:13
I am rather pleases.....although the dates line up it is clearly different.....back to the research
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 November 2008, 21:26:11
Pictures are brilliant Mark. We really can't imagine what it must have been like.
My Nanna's brother was a POW in Thailand, they had to feed him up before allowing him to go home, where he died not long after with berry-berry....
My Dad's Dad was a Desert Rat and took quiet a few photo's himself of the different places he went too (think I posted some off them a while back). He didn't talk about the war either only that he got his Medals for running away he used to say ;D
The only thing I ever heard him say was that seeing tracers flying towards you was terrifing....
Denise's Grandad landed at Dunkirk where a tank ran over a land mine, blowing several of his mates up and himself. He was touch and go if his leg should get amputated, but the doctor gave him penicillin and operated as he was still only 19 years old. Shrapnel for years made its way out...
Hard times
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 24 November 2008, 21:52:02
Marks DTM pictures were really great and very precious.. :y :y :y

Thanks to that..  II World war is a subject that I read about whole my

life starting from my childhood and still ..
Title: Re: The year is 1940....
Post by: Martin_1962 on 24 November 2008, 22:07:16
WW2 Well one Grandfather was Merchant Navy, the other I don't know