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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: keithnic on 24 November 2008, 22:45:29
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In the pre-budget report today the Govt have said on road tax that "no driver in any given band will pay more than £5 extra in 2009 or £30 extra in 2010". A major result as they previously suggested that the 3.2 V6 would end up costing £440 from next year!
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sort your avatar bud its huuuuge :y
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[movedhere] Omega General Help [move by] hotel21.
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thank opps for that. :-)
Didnt think they would go through with it tbh. Would not let it put me off er... buying... one... anyway.
Someone tell me, what do you buy instead, thats as inexpensive and still similar to the omega? Surely youll end up paying more than 200 a year over all? Apart from a pre oct 01 omega of course, which would only have been a year younger than my previous mig.
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Sadly I don't think it will do much for used car values though, they are only putting it off for a while, or going to implement it over a loger period.
Also the "reduction" in VAT is being off set by an icrease in duty on fuel/fags/beer, the VAT is going back up in 13 months but no mention of the duty dropping on fuel/fags/beer in 13 months time.
As per usual with this government, on the face of it, it looks like they have done us a favour, but underneath it we are bent over the table again.
Mike
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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.
Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
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Oh yes, should have added for the whisky drinkers amongst us, the duty is going up on that as well.
Mike
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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.
Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
Short memorys indeed, i dont remember labour taking over a bright and shiney country. In fact i distinctly recall a large upturn after Labour won the election with something like a land slide.
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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.
Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
Short memorys indeed, i dont remember labour taking over a bright and shiney country. In fact i distinctly recall a large upturn after Labour won the election with something like a land slide.
A lot of us remember the 70s
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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.
Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
Short memorys indeed, i dont remember labour taking over a bright and shiney country. In fact i distinctly recall a large upturn after Labour won the election with something like a land slide.
A lot of us remember the 70s
Yes indeed even at the age of 43 I remeber the power cuts for no reason, and 3 day working week my father was on.
Chris, after the recession in 91/92 the country/economy was growing steadily under John Major. When labour came to power the economy was doing very well, most of labours first 5 years was thanks to the tories. The last 5 years of ridiculous house prices and borrowing beyond the countries means is down to labour.
There are of course many other factors to it, and I certainly do not want an argument on politics.
Mike
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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.
Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
Short memorys indeed, i dont remember labour taking over a bright and shiney country. In fact i distinctly recall a large upturn after Labour won the election with something like a land slide.
Sad thing is that they then rode the fruits of the previous governments labours through the easy times and borrowed stupidly to spend on inefficient public services.
Lol, looking back in history, labour spend it and bugger it up and the tories recover it....its very cyclic.
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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.
Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
Short memorys indeed, i dont remember labour taking over a bright and shiney country. In fact i distinctly recall a large upturn after Labour won the election with something like a land slide.
Sad thing is that they then rode the fruits of the previous governments labours through the easy times and borrowed stupidly to spend on inefficient public services.
Lol, looking back in history, labour spend it and bugger it up and the tories recover it....its very cyclic.
Being honest, there all crap and fluent in bullsh1t ::)
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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.
Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
Short memorys indeed, i dont remember labour taking over a bright and shiney country. In fact i distinctly recall a large upturn after Labour won the election with something like a land slide.
A lot of us remember the 70s
I remember the power cuts. Unions." What about the workers", just about remember that.
Poll tax and council tax riots,haveing to find £500 in poll tax, a year after leaveing, school 3 million unemplyed,15.7% inflation, black tuesday, black monday and a" haves and have nots" attitude that really turns my stomach. Under the tories i could not get on the ladder, i now own 3 properties under labour for that and several other more generous reasons. I WILL be voteing Labour next time around.
Its funny, the general approach of people on this forum is generous and open minded but conversely i think its fair to say political opinion seems to lie in the blue corner on average? To me, that seems a contradiction? Fair comment or not?
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I will vote for whoever there is that will do the best for UK plc.....and the current bunch have not and are not.
That leaves one other alternative.
I also struggle to see anything that the current bunch have done that would have helped you. I suspect you have benefited from the economic upturn of the 90's which is not anything related to a decision the current crowd have made.
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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.
Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
Short memorys indeed, i dont remember labour taking over a bright and shiney country. In fact i distinctly recall a large upturn after Labour won the election with something like a land slide.
A lot of us remember the 70s
I remember the power cuts. Unions." What about the workers", just about remember that.
Poll tax and council tax riots,haveing to find £500 in poll tax, a year after leaveing, school 3 million unemplyed,15.7% inflation, black tuesday, black monday and a" haves and have nots" attitude that really turns my stomach. Under the tories i could not get on the ladder, i now own 3 properties under labour for that and several other more generous reasons. I WILL be voteing Labour next time around.
Its funny, the general approach of people on this forum is generous and open minded but conversely i think its fair to say political opinion seems to lie in the blue corner on average? To me, that seems a contradiction? Fair comment or not?
Chris, why could you not get on the property ladder under the tories, I bought my first house in 1987, the height of the last propery boom if memory serves me right. My salary then was about 12k per year and the house was 29k. It was a 3 bed semi.
What is an average salary today 25-30k and the same house round here is now 150-175k. To me that says something is wrong.
Mike
P.S. I am an undecided voter, I no I would not vote labour, but equally hate the rest. As I have said in past posts, this next election when it comes, will be possibly be the first election I may not vote in. I have allways said we should allways vote, but when you hate them all waht can you do.
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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.
Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
Short memorys indeed, i dont remember labour taking over a bright and shiney country. In fact i distinctly recall a large upturn after Labour won the election with something like a land slide.
Sad thing is that they then rode the fruits of the previous governments labours through the easy times and borrowed stupidly to spend on inefficient public services.
Lol, looking back in history, labour spend it and bugger it up and the tories recover it....its very cyclic.
I look at the poverty levels. I dont really get concerned about the reasonably well off moaning about how to cut up the pounds and pence. Dont get me wrong it aint perfect, most likely never will be, but i dont understand why people dont see we are better off "as a country" than ever before. Just hope we have done well enough to ride out the comeing storm, for me i think we are better placed to deal with it now, if you have to have a downturn now is the time imho.
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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.
Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
Short memorys indeed, i dont remember labour taking over a bright and shiney country. In fact i distinctly recall a large upturn after Labour won the election with something like a land slide.
Sad thing is that they then rode the fruits of the previous governments labours through the easy times and borrowed stupidly to spend on inefficient public services.
Lol, looking back in history, labour spend it and bugger it up and the tories recover it....its very cyclic.
I look at the poverty levels. I dont really get concerned about the reasonably well off moaning about how to cut up the pounds and pence. Dont get me wrong it aint perfect, most likely never will be, but i dont understand why people dont see we are better off "as a country" than ever before. Just hope we have done well enough to ride out the comeing storm, for me i think we are better placed to deal with it now, if you have to have a downturn now is the time imho.
We are not better off, we are worse off.
We have only got a few little extras based on borrowing....and that includes government spending for which we are all liable.
And anybody can drive growth that way, even Hitler managed it!
I dont see poverty levels any better than they were, there is more employment but, thats dirven by the global economy and has little to do again with this government.
I have said it for many years now, as a government you do NOT borrow during the good times......and you certianly dont throw stupid amounts of cash into public services which are ineficient, you need to streamline them first.
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In the pre-budget report today the Govt have said on road tax that "no driver in any given band will pay more than £5 extra in 2009 or £30 extra in 2010". A major result as they previously suggested that the 3.2 V6 would end up costing £440 from next year!
post march 2001, not october
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Bent over the table indeed - the government knows that the public (generally) have short and selective memories. Looking back at this in the future, the rises will be minimal, and nobody will mind because they will be better off than they were before anyway.
Or Labour will have ballsed it up completely and leave the Tories a god awful mess to sort out.
Short memorys indeed, i dont remember labour taking over a bright and shiney country. In fact i distinctly recall a large upturn after Labour won the election with something like a land slide.
Sad thing is that they then rode the fruits of the previous governments labours through the easy times and borrowed stupidly to spend on inefficient public services.
Lol, looking back in history, labour spend it and bugger it up and the tories recover it....its very cyclic.
I look at the poverty levels. I dont really get concerned about the reasonably well off moaning about how to cut up the pounds and pence. Dont get me wrong it aint perfect, most likely never will be, but i dont understand why people dont see we are better off "as a country" than ever before. Just hope we have done well enough to ride out the comeing storm, for me i think we are better placed to deal with it now, if you have to have a downturn now is the time imho.
We are not better off, we are worse off.
We have only got a few little extras based on borrowing....and that includes government spending for which we are all liable.
And anybody can drive growth that way, even Hitler managed it!
I dont see poverty levels any better than they were, there is more employment but, thats dirven by the global economy and has little to do again with this government.
I have said it for many years now, as a government you do NOT borrow during the good times......and you certianly dont throw stupid amounts of cash into public services which are ineficient, you need to streamline them first.
I'd tend to agree with the opinions expressed here. I'm not swayed either way by labour or the tories - in my memory (38 years young) whatever government is elected either achieves great results by building on the strong financial basis of the previous government, or achieves great results by fixing the mistakes.
Either way, in this country a new government is rarely elected until we are sick and tired of the previous one. All they then have to do is keep making promises and small changes until we discover what lousy buggers they are - then we change them again. It's cyclic, as mentioned before.
I, for one, would love to see a Prime Minister who goes entirely public about the state we as a country are in, then presents a plan (over 5 or 10 years) to fix it, with regular public debate on how they are doing, and honesty all round. That will never happen, as there are too many civil servants with their own interests at heart.
Oooo, and a Government that provides a long term plan, rather than lots of short term fixes! the Education system in particular is labouring under the strain of lots of little 'improvements' that, when joined together, place an incredible strain on the system which will eventually break.
propose a fix, WAIT TO OBSERVE THE RESULTS, then either remove it or continue to use it.
Can someone give me a hand down from my soapbox?