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Title: Expensive Escort.
Post by: amigov6 on 26 November 2008, 20:03:49
I sat in one of these once & started it up, did'nt even ask to drive it. It was a mates Dads car years ago. Back then only a few were registered, ie Mini Cooper heritage certificate but look at the bids. I know my old Fords pretty well but would have to look/investigate carefully. If it's genuine it'd be hard to price, guess it's worth what some one will pay. :o
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Andy B on 26 November 2008, 20:08:23
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I sat in one of these once & started it up, did'nt even ask to drive it....... If it's genuine it'd be hard to price, guess it's worth what some one will pay. :o

C'mon Guy ... give us clue what you're looking at!  ;) the old crystal ball isn't what it once was!  ;)  :y  :y
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: amigov6 on 26 November 2008, 20:09:58
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180309513573&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008
   Sorry, senior moment!!!! :-[
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: mantahatch on 26 November 2008, 20:21:00
Very nice, but it is not worth 15K. I would say 5-8K for a minter.

Just my useless opinion.

Mike

P.S. You could buy a fairly good E type Jag for that kind of money, and the jag would pull more looks
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 26 November 2008, 20:50:41
As they say, it's only worth what someone is prepared to pay.
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Chopsdad on 26 November 2008, 20:53:53
I thought this thread was about a bird  ;D
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: amigov6 on 26 November 2008, 20:56:40
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I thought this thread was about a bird  ;D
You should see how much the agency charges for a Granada!!! ::)
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 November 2008, 20:57:54
every car has a buyer somewhere else..

or not :P ;D
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 26 November 2008, 21:11:12
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I thought this thread was about a bird  ;D

So did i  :-/ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Vamps on 26 November 2008, 21:18:39
Nice car :y but for that money I would rather have a Lotus Cortina Mk1 8-) 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Bandit127 on 26 November 2008, 21:29:40
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Nice car :y but for that money I would rather have a Lotus Cortina Mk1 8-) 8-) 8-)
Posted before - but I can't resist Cortina p*rn  :)

(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/index.4.jpg)
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: MarkG on 26 November 2008, 21:30:43
It's just about as rare as you can get. There are only about 10 genuine ones left in the UK. But even so, £15k with still 9 days to go seems a bit fishy. If it's the real deal it ought to go into a specialist historic or classic car auction, not dodgy old eBay
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Vamps on 26 November 2008, 21:32:34
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It's just about as rare as you can get. There are only about 10 genuine ones left in the UK. But even so, £15k with still 9 days to go seems a bit fishy. If it's the real deal it ought to go into a specialist historic or classic car auction, not dodgy old eBay

Good point. :)
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: amigov6 on 26 November 2008, 22:53:52
Exactly why i was unsure, but do the bidders know something we don't? It's obviously a pukka type 49 body shell but could've started life as a 1300GT, 1600 Mexico or a better RS model. Seller admits it's a resto but gives no history or provenance which to me is suspect.
   Suffice to say i won't be bidding but will watch with interest. ::)
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 26 November 2008, 22:58:12
Makes me wonder if bidders 3 and 4 are his mates.  Showing thier hands too early for genuine bidders as far as I see it.
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Vamps on 26 November 2008, 23:01:20
There are a lot of bids for the time to go :-/ If I were a genuine buyer and wanted that car I would have asked for a BIN price, no evidence of that, I think this is a bit iffy :)
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Vamps on 26 November 2008, 23:02:05
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Nice car :y but for that money I would rather have a Lotus Cortina Mk1 8-) 8-) 8-)
Posted before - but I can't resist Cortina p*rn  :)

(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/index.4.jpg)

I LOVE that pic.... :y :y :y
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: amigov6 on 26 November 2008, 23:33:09
I'm not convinced as i know they're rare as hens teeth but it's still gonna be a blast to drive so if anyone's feeling full of charitable festive spirit i would'nt be so rude to refuse it as a gift, whatever it is! 8-)
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Albatross on 27 November 2008, 02:49:34
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Nice car :y but for that money I would rather have a Lotus Cortina Mk1 8-) 8-) 8-)
Posted before - but I can't resist Cortina p*rn  :)

(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/index.4.jpg)

I LOVE that pic.... :y :y :y

Me too!
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: bighed on 27 November 2008, 07:10:22
Does look dodgy as all the bids were put down within an hour of each other  :-/
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Elite Pete on 27 November 2008, 08:50:08
Nice car, but for that money there is so many other cars I would buy like a Lotus Carlton for instance.
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 November 2008, 09:23:13
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Nice car, but for that money there is so many other cars I would buy like a Lotus Carlton for instance.

Indeed. Whilst it's lovely it's a bit of a shame it's not fitted with "the other" twin cam (BDA) :-*

Kevin
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: markey mark on 27 November 2008, 10:04:36
i know the lad selling it !!  ::)
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 November 2008, 10:12:44
Not worth the money, its only an escort!

Now this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1995-ASTON-MARTIN-DB7-BLACK_W0QQitemZ280287884581QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item280287884581&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A4%7C65%3A7%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Would be a better way to spend that sort of cash
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 27 November 2008, 10:32:43
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Not worth the money, its only an escort!

Now this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1995-ASTON-MARTIN-DB7-BLACK_W0QQitemZ280287884581QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item280287884581&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A4%7C65%3A7%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Would be a better way to spend that sort of cash

definitely..
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Elite Pete on 27 November 2008, 11:28:24
I would but this and pocket the difference :)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1970-JAGUAR-XJ6-4-2-AUTO-SERIES-1-12-MONTHS-MOT-TAX_W0QQitemZ120338113556QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item120338113556&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 November 2008, 16:03:18
I would never buy a jag......all looks an nowt else and at that era they were truely awful
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Elite Pete on 27 November 2008, 16:08:17
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I would never buy a jag......all looks an nowt else and at that era they were truely awful
I wouldn't expect an old car to be upto todays standards but as far as the MK1 XJ6 goes, there wasn't much around that would touch it for the money ;)
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: MickAP on 27 November 2008, 16:19:32
Not a very well presented ad either, inside looks a bit of a sh@t, not even been cleaned, poor pics. If I bid that sort of money for a car it would have to be absolute mint, not even worth half that, looks dodgy to me.

Mick
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Jay w on 27 November 2008, 16:40:05
WOW they are big piccys

I'm going to rock the boat here.......What is the attraction with old fords?

ok they had a racing heritage, but then so did a lot of cars in the 50's and 60's and even into the 70's and 80's......you dont see people drooling over a metro, but the 6R4 was a huge success in groupe A and rallycross....

the original advert for the twink 'scrote, is very poor, the seller is relying on its rarity to see itself, no mention of its history of provenance just that its had a rebuild, if i wanted that much money i would be putting together a corker of an auction and i wouldn't do a BIN, the car and a decent auction should create enough of an interest to get the money deserved

MarkDTM, i was under the impression that Jag and AM were based on a similar platform, due to being owned by ford, so in effect you would be buying a Jag XKR or whatever they were called
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Elite Pete on 27 November 2008, 16:47:31
That looks like the same blue as a TR7 V8 I used to own, god I miss that car :'(
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: amigov6 on 27 November 2008, 20:31:03
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WOW they are big piccys

I'm going to rock the boat here.......What is the attraction with old fords?

ok they had a racing heritage, but then so did a lot of cars in the 50's and 60's and even into the 70's and 80's......you dont see people drooling over a metro, but the 6R4 was a huge success in groupe A and rallycross....

the original advert for the twink 'scrote, is very poor, the seller is relying on its rarity to see itself, no mention of its history of provenance just that its had a rebuild, if i wanted that much money i would be putting together a corker of an auction and i wouldn't do a BIN, the car and a decent auction should create enough of an interest to get the money deserved

MarkDTM, i was under the impression that Jag and AM were based on a similar platform, due to being owned by ford, so in effect you would be buying a Jag XKR or whatever they were called
Old Fords?...Attraction???? You're not rocking the boat mate it's a fair question that i can't answer suffice to say i love 'em, they have a charm or appeal that other 60's/70's didnt have which explains why todays clasid Fords fetch more than Austins, Hillmans, Vauxhalls etc. They were better in thier day hence more collectable now. 8-)
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 November 2008, 20:50:25
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I'm going to rock the boat here.......What is the attraction with old fords?

There is something... I think it's probably because they were very staid, simple cars in their time. They have just aged better for that reason. In addition, Ford stuck with RWD whereas most others were meddling with wrong wheel drive.

.. and the 6r4 was not a great example IMHO. Might have had the odd doorhandle from a metro but it was essentially a different car. The production Metro was a dog of the highest order.

Can't think of much from the BL/Austin/Rover stable that I'd druel over today.

Kevin
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Bandit127 on 27 November 2008, 20:57:17
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My mate Markie has an Escort - beautiful car

I think he paid about £60 for it, had been sat for ages.  A lick of paint and a recover of the seats (ok, a fair bit more than that !!) and it's like new:

(http://www.sandywell.plus.com/MK1/DSC01461.JPG)


(http://www.sandywell.plus.com/MK1/DSC02655.JPG)


(http://www.sandywell.plus.com/MK1/DSC02654.JPG)


(http://www.sandywell.plus.com/MK1/DSC01365.JPG)


(http://www.sandywell.plus.com/MK1/DSC01366.JPG)

Sorry James but please can you re-size the pics in this post. Forum guidelines require 640 width max. These are 2048 wide and are playing merry hell with my browser.

TIA.
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 27 November 2008, 21:06:50
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My mate Markie has an Escort - beautiful car

I think he paid about £60 for it, had been sat for ages.  A lick of paint and a recover of the seats (ok, a fair bit more than that !!) and it's like new:

(http://www.sandywell.plus.com/MK1/DSC01461.JPG)


(http://www.sandywell.plus.com/MK1/DSC02655.JPG)


(http://www.sandywell.plus.com/MK1/DSC02654.JPG)


(http://www.sandywell.plus.com/MK1/DSC01365.JPG)


(http://www.sandywell.plus.com/MK1/DSC01366.JPG)

Sorry James but please can you re-size the pics in this post. Forum guidelines require 640 width max. These are 2048 wide and are playing merry hell with my browser.

TIA.

What browser are you using? IE just allows a scroll across.

Unfortunately I couldn't resize because they're not my pics, so I have just removed the post.
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Vamps on 27 November 2008, 21:42:22
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I would but this and pocket the difference :)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1970-JAGUAR-XJ6-4-2-AUTO-SERIES-1-12-MONTHS-MOT-TAX_W0QQitemZ120338113556QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item120338113556&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

A tidy looking motor that, given that it is genuine. And good value too, heavy on juice but as a 'toy car' would be fine. :y :y :y
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Vamps on 27 November 2008, 21:43:36
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WOW they are big piccys

I'm going to rock the boat here.......What is the attraction with old fords?

ok they had a racing heritage, but then so did a lot of cars in the 50's and 60's and even into the 70's and 80's......you dont see people drooling over a metro, but the 6R4 was a huge success in groupe A and rallycross....

the original advert for the twink 'scrote, is very poor, the seller is relying on its rarity to see itself, no mention of its history of provenance just that its had a rebuild, if i wanted that much money i would be putting together a corker of an auction and i wouldn't do a BIN, the car and a decent auction should create enough of an interest to get the money deserved

MarkDTM, i was under the impression that Jag and AM were based on a similar platform, due to being owned by ford, so in effect you would be buying a Jag XKR or whatever they were called
Old Fords?...Attraction???? You're not rocking the boat mate it's a fair question that i can't answer suffice to say i love 'em, they have a charm or appeal that other 60's/70's didnt have which explains why todays clasid Fords fetch more than Austins, Hillmans, Vauxhalls etc. They were better in thier day hence more collectable now. 8-)

I agree, with the exception of the Mini........ :y :y :y
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Martin_1962 on 27 November 2008, 21:46:42
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WOW they are big piccys

I'm going to rock the boat here.......What is the attraction with old fords?

ok they had a racing heritage, but then so did a lot of cars in the 50's and 60's and even into the 70's and 80's......you dont see people drooling over a metro, but the 6R4 was a huge success in groupe A and rallycross....

the original advert for the twink 'scrote, is very poor, the seller is relying on its rarity to see itself, no mention of its history of provenance just that its had a rebuild, if i wanted that much money i would be putting together a corker of an auction and i wouldn't do a BIN, the car and a decent auction should create enough of an interest to get the money deserved

MarkDTM, i was under the impression that Jag and AM were based on a similar platform, due to being owned by ford, so in effect you would be buying a Jag XKR or whatever they were called
Old Fords?...Attraction???? You're not rocking the boat mate it's a fair question that i can't answer suffice to say i love 'em, they have a charm or appeal that other 60's/70's didnt have which explains why todays clasid Fords fetch more than Austins, Hillmans, Vauxhalls etc. They were better in thier day hence more collectable now. 8-)

I like old Hillmans
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Vamps on 27 November 2008, 21:52:12
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WOW they are big piccys

I'm going to rock the boat here.......What is the attraction with old fords?

ok they had a racing heritage, but then so did a lot of cars in the 50's and 60's and even into the 70's and 80's......you dont see people drooling over a metro, but the 6R4 was a huge success in groupe A and rallycross....

the original advert for the twink 'scrote, is very poor, the seller is relying on its rarity to see itself, no mention of its history of provenance just that its had a rebuild, if i wanted that much money i would be putting together a corker of an auction and i wouldn't do a BIN, the car and a decent auction should create enough of an interest to get the money deserved

MarkDTM, i was under the impression that Jag and AM were based on a similar platform, due to being owned by ford, so in effect you would be buying a Jag XKR or whatever they were called
Old Fords?...Attraction???? You're not rocking the boat mate it's a fair question that i can't answer suffice to say i love 'em, they have a charm or appeal that other 60's/70's didnt have which explains why todays clasid Fords fetch more than Austins, Hillmans, Vauxhalls etc. They were better in thier day hence more collectable now. 8-)

I like old Hillmans

The Avenger was a canny car, underated compared to the Ford Cortina, almost identical in reality. :y
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Bandit127 on 27 November 2008, 22:06:13
James - resized your pics for you.

Looks good. Keep us posted.
(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/DSC01365.JPG)

(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/DSC01366.JPG)

(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/DSC01461.JPG)

(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/DSC02654.JPG)

(http://www.bandit127.com/oof_stuff/images/DSC02655.JPG)

 :y
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 27 November 2008, 22:06:56
Thanks mate :y
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Martin_1962 on 27 November 2008, 22:08:58
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WOW they are big piccys

I'm going to rock the boat here.......What is the attraction with old fords?

ok they had a racing heritage, but then so did a lot of cars in the 50's and 60's and even into the 70's and 80's......you dont see people drooling over a metro, but the 6R4 was a huge success in groupe A and rallycross....

the original advert for the twink 'scrote, is very poor, the seller is relying on its rarity to see itself, no mention of its history of provenance just that its had a rebuild, if i wanted that much money i would be putting together a corker of an auction and i wouldn't do a BIN, the car and a decent auction should create enough of an interest to get the money deserved

MarkDTM, i was under the impression that Jag and AM were based on a similar platform, due to being owned by ford, so in effect you would be buying a Jag XKR or whatever they were called
Old Fords?...Attraction???? You're not rocking the boat mate it's a fair question that i can't answer suffice to say i love 'em, they have a charm or appeal that other 60's/70's didnt have which explains why todays clasid Fords fetch more than Austins, Hillmans, Vauxhalls etc. They were better in thier day hence more collectable now. 8-)

I like old Hillmans

The Avenger was a canny car, underated compared to the Ford Cortina, almost identical in reality. :y


Very good and I prefered it to the Cortina or the Escort
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: hotel21 on 27 November 2008, 22:10:06
Are the front strut tops meant to be painted body colour or did he run out of masking tape?? :o
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Chopsdad on 27 November 2008, 22:12:59
My brother has a fully restored RS Mexico in yellow with white wheels in storage - but drives the wife round in a BMW 2.8 Coupe cos it's too noisy, bouncy and uncomfortable  :-?
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: Vamps on 27 November 2008, 22:13:33
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Are the front strut tops meant to be painted body colour or did he run out of masking tape?? :o

That's just nit picking........... ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Expensive Escort.
Post by: amigov6 on 27 November 2008, 22:28:41
Despite old Fords being a favourite i did have a lovely Avenger (or Scavenger) as we called them, a blue 1500DL with a long speedo, tiny dished steering wheel & a wooden gear knob with the crossed rally flags. It was XTA something or other K reg. I was 18 & banned from driving in sunny Worthing but i could drift it round Broadwater roundabout in the early hours. This would've been 1981/2 when i was 18/19. Then i got put away again so no idea what happened to the car! ::)