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Title: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 27 November 2008, 14:38:51
I notice some retailers are advertising it allready.

But I just placed an Electrical Parts order and they are still charging t 17.5%

Be interesting to see if pubs and takeaways drop prices accordingly.
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: ngrainqey on 27 November 2008, 14:40:30
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I notice some retailers are advertising it allready.

But I just placed an Electrical Parts order and they are still charging t 17.5%

Be interesting to see if pubs and takeaways drop prices accordingly.

there shouldnt be vat on food anyway :S
or are takeaways exempt from that so can charge vat?
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: Jimbob on 27 November 2008, 14:48:01
Meant to be 1st Dec
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: Jimbob on 27 November 2008, 14:49:06
Only VAT free food are essentials...

VAT is on crisps, biscuits, convienience foods etc and Deffo on 'served' food, ie takeaways, pubs etc
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 27 November 2008, 14:52:51
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I notice some retailers are advertising it allready.

But I just placed an Electrical Parts order and they are still charging t 17.5%

Be interesting to see if pubs and takeaways drop prices accordingly.

there shouldnt be vat on food anyway :S
or are takeaways exempt from that so can charge vat?


VAT on takeaways was introduced in the 80's

All menus will/should disply "all prices include VAT"


Didnt you realise you pay Tax on what you earn and VAT on most things that you enjoy. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: Leomas on 27 November 2008, 15:38:14
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Meant to be 1st Dec


I can confirm that. I have had my advisory from HMRC with the 28 pages of rules on how to deal with the change


OK it's actually only 4 pages......still a horrendous task and I have to hope that the guys who support my accounts software get the update in place in time as I hate doing 'on the fly' tweaks 'cause you just know it going to cause problems later down the line :-/
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: iggy21uk on 27 November 2008, 16:31:48
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I notice some retailers are advertising it allready.

But I just placed an Electrical Parts order and they are still charging t 17.5%

Be interesting to see if pubs and takeaways drop prices accordingly.

He put the  duty up to compensate  so booze wont be any cheaper
also when vat goes  back up the duty is not going down - barsteward  >:(

Put air fare tax  up as well  from next year  :-/
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: theowletman on 27 November 2008, 16:52:11
This enormous 2.5% decrease is meant to get the public spending to ease the recession.
Well, after a year of high fuel prices, petrol, derv, elec, gas etc.
After the 10p in the pound tax cock up.
After large amounts of redundancies, bankruptcies, rising food prices, short time working, unavailibility of loans, mortgages, credit cards, overdrafts, loss of savings / share values, Icelandic banks and all those other depressing items:
JUST WHO HAS ANY MONEY LEFT TO SPEND?????

And by the way, the decrease in VAT on fuel, alcohol and tobacco is being offset by a rise in duty.
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 27 November 2008, 16:52:47
Didnt watch any of it so not 100% on what actualy changed.
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: theowletman on 27 November 2008, 16:57:01
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Didnt watch any of it so not 100% on what actualy changed.
Nothing really mate, just more debt for future generations. They should be reducing government debt, not increasing it. Build more prisons, deport those who should not be here would be a start.
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: waspy on 27 November 2008, 17:08:37
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Didnt watch any of it so not 100% on what actualy changed.
Nothing really mate, just more debt for future generations. They should be reducing government debt, not increasing it. Build more prisons, deport those who should not be here would be a start.

Yep, then maybe i'd get my job back >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 November 2008, 20:01:39
Not sure that a 2.5% drop in VAT will make much of an impact on the economy........I'll wager that not everybody passes it on as well. :-/ :y
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: LaserLance on 27 November 2008, 20:08:18
Heard some finacail bod on radio reckon that a lot of firms will not pass it on as it will go on there bottom line and keep them in profit ,bit of a cheek that really ,not that its gonna make much difference to anything
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: Entwood on 27 November 2008, 20:10:54
Had a conversation with the Caravan Retailer today .. as I pick up the new 'van after the VAT rate change, and invoice date is collection date not order date ... looks like I'll get about £300 reduction ... :)
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: Parts_Monkey on 27 November 2008, 20:19:25
For most day to day stuff there'll be hardly any difference.  On a £100 shop at Tesco's the most difference it'll make is £2.50

Why not a shuffle of income taxe, perhaps raise the amount you earn before your taxed and may be slapping a 50% tax rate on everything earnt over say £250,000 in a year?
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: theowletman on 27 November 2008, 20:41:00
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For most day to day stuff there'll be hardly any difference.  On a £100 shop at Tesco's the most difference it'll make is £2.50

Why not a shuffle of income taxe, perhaps raise the amount you earn before your taxed and may be slapping a 50% tax rate on everything earnt over say £250,000 in a year?
I don't think that food is subject to VAT, ( could be wrong though ) so very little difference.
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: Parts_Monkey on 27 November 2008, 20:50:49
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For most day to day stuff there'll be hardly any difference.  On a £100 shop at Tesco's the most difference it'll make is £2.50

Why not a shuffle of income taxe, perhaps raise the amount you earn before your taxed and may be slapping a 50% tax rate on everything earnt over say £250,000 in a year?

Iwas being very vague and assuming the person was spending £100 on Digestives and Jelly Tots.

My main point was that if everything you bought had VAT, you would save £2.50.

For most people you will probable save more like £1, maybe £1.50?
I don't think that food is subject to VAT, ( could be wrong though ) so very little difference.
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: Vamps on 27 November 2008, 23:02:20
Yes, I am going to save so much money that from Monday I will be on a spend spend spend.........................NOT, will make no difference to our spending which has been restricted recently as a result of high prices anyway. :-X
Title: Re: When Does The New VAT Rate Kick In?
Post by: Vamps on 27 November 2008, 23:09:00
Interesting comment on question time, would it not have been better to just remove VAT from gas and electric rather than a 2.5% overall, I think that would have been a good move.... :y