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Title: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: redelitev6 on 06 December 2008, 18:47:09
When i bought the miggy i was given a file of paperwork showing service and parts reciepts ,i thought "great it's been well looked after" however having spent some time working on the car it looks like the previous owners have been well taken for a ride -spark plugs only renewed on the easy(drivers) side,a pollen filter so dirty it could be the original! god knows what's been going on with it! anybody else had the same experience?  
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: Auto Addict on 06 December 2008, 20:40:32
I just don't trust garage service receipts >:(
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 06 December 2008, 21:12:14
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When i bought the miggy i was given a file of paperwork showing service and parts reciepts ,i thought "great it's been well looked after" however having spent some time working on the car it looks like the previous owners have been well taken for a ride -spark plugs only renewed on the easy(drivers) side,a pollen filter so dirty it could be the original! god knows what's been going on with it! anybody else had the same experience?  

Bit naughty only doing half the plugs.......but pollen filter is a 'service extra' One of those items that if you dont ask to have it changed on a service.....then it doesnt!  ;)
Mind you my 2.2 was vx serviced until it was 60k miles old.....I discovered they wernt bothering to change the air filter....60k on the same air filter!! no wonder it was struggling a bit!!  >:(
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: HerefordElite on 06 December 2008, 21:25:29
i had a full service at VX Main Dealer when i bought mine (dad paid :y) got a phone call saying they couldn't get the spark plugs out :o

had to take it back a week later for them to have another go - still not sure if they bothered :-? how would i know? and it hasn't been apart since :-/
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 06 December 2008, 21:35:20
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i had a full service at VX Main Dealer when i bought mine (dad paid :y) got a phone call saying they couldn't get the spark plugs out :o

had to take it back a week later for them to have another go - still not sure if they bothered :-? how would i know? and it hasn't been apart since :-/

A big giveaway would be if they aint GM plugs  :y
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: Lazydocker on 06 December 2008, 21:42:24
Not worth the paper it's written on to me... I only trust my own servicing! ;D ;D

I tend to go by the visible condition. Mileage doesn't bother me either unless it's over 200k :y :y
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: HerefordElite on 06 December 2008, 21:48:51
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i had a full service at VX Main Dealer when i bought mine (dad paid :y) got a phone call saying they couldn't get the spark plugs out :o

had to take it back a week later for them to have another go - still not sure if they bothered :-? how would i know? and it hasn't been apart since :-/

A big giveaway would be if they aint GM plugs  :y


like i said TD it hasn't been apart since they were allegedley changed - but due a big service (Cambelt, WP, Cam gaskets, breather clean, plugs, oil, magic tree!) so will have good examination of plugs...if i can get them out ;)
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: mantahatch on 06 December 2008, 21:58:40
A service history with a dealer is only good up to 3 years old. then any garage can service it up to is is 8 years old. After that forget it. It is so easy to forge a service history anyway.

If you intend to sell your car within 2 years of owning and it is less than 8 years old then service history may help to move it on, but if you keep it more than 2 years then service history will cost more and you loose more in depriciation so not worth it.
With say a 10 year old Miggy, I think most people with some brains would look at the condition of the car, factor in a cam belt change themselves and not be to bothered that 7 years ago some Vauxhall mechanic changed the oil on it.
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: ARH1 on 06 December 2008, 22:18:57
Old saying, dont believe all you read. I have worked for garages and find the techs stamp their m8s service book nilly willly. A practice I hate. but it goes on. Its like the mot. When I bought my mig, I checked with vosa on the previous. For the past  3 years it has been reported that the nsf tyre has been an advisory NEAR LEGAL LIMIT. With 6000 mls in that period the tyre was never changed. Yet it stll passes????. What if the tester cant be arsed, is he really going to check it over in full?
Why not clock on to the job and go have a cup of tea? lets face it if he fails the car he might get the car to repair the failures (why bother... give it a pass and save the bother).Check the obvious and fail if it is obvious. Then again if the punter is a bit of a tw.t give it a good going over and make the punter pay. On servicing? what is a service? these days. change the oil and filter, kick the tyres and give the punter a bill.
How many owners know what a service involves? And lets face it if you know nought about a car how are you going to check if it has been done?and if you got time to check it you might s well do it yourself......I could go on with the scams for ever. Both history and Mots not worth paper written on when buying car  
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: tmx on 06 December 2008, 22:25:58
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i had a full service at VX Main Dealer when i bought mine (dad paid :y) got a phone call saying they couldn't get the spark plugs out :o

had to take it back a week later for them to have another go - still not sure if they bothered :-? how would i know? and it hasn't been apart since :-/

Hereford Elite Knowing Baylis i wouldnt be too sure  ;D ;D ;D

nah i bought my MV6 off a collegue and it has full BT service history VX upto 100k then BT upto 115k then its all DIY by me :)
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: Vamps on 06 December 2008, 22:29:42
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Old saying, dont believe all you read. I have worked for garages and find the techs stamp their m8s service book nilly willly. A practice I hate. but it goes on. Its like the mot. When I bought my mig, I checked with vosa on the previous. For the past  3 years it has been reported that the nsf tyre has been an advisory NEAR LEGAL LIMIT. With 6000 mls in that period the tyre was never changed. Yet it stll passes????. What if the tester cant be arsed, is he really going to check it over in full?
Why not clock on to the job and go have a cup of tea? lets face it if he fails the car he might get the car to repair the failures (why bother... give it a pass and save the bother).Check the obvious and fail if it is obvious. Then again if the punter is a bit of a tw.t give it a good going over and make the punter pay. On servicing? what is a service? these days. change the oil and filter, kick the tyres and give the punter a bill.
How many owners know what a service involves? And lets face it if you know nought about a car how are you going to check if it has been done?and if you got time to check it you might s well do it yourself......I could go on with the scams for ever. Both history and Mots not worth paper written on when buying car  

I trust my local independant, know'n the guy for years, always use him and he never forgets to grease it as well, :y not many modern mechanics know how to use the grease gun. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: ARH1 on 06 December 2008, 22:49:21
grease gun, havnt manufacturers done away with grease nipples?
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: HerefordElite on 06 December 2008, 22:52:55
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i had a full service at VX Main Dealer when i bought mine (dad paid :y) got a phone call saying they couldn't get the spark plugs out :o

had to take it back a week later for them to have another go - still not sure if they bothered :-? how would i know? and it hasn't been apart since :-/

Hereford Elite Knowing Baylis i wouldnt be too sure  ;D ;D ;D

nah i bought my MV6 off a collegue and it has full BT service history VX upto 100k then BT upto 115k then its all DIY by me :)


sad thing is the tech who did it is a mate of a mate but he's moved to dubai now so can't ask him the truth :-?
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: tmx on 06 December 2008, 22:54:44
i know a tech down there and apparently if its a V6 then only 2 tech's will touch em

he seems scared of the v6 when ive asked him for advice hes always pretended not to have a clue lol
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: Vamps on 06 December 2008, 22:55:35
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grease gun, havnt manufacturers done away with grease nipples?

I wondered in anyone would notice.... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Service history-what's it worth?
Post by: belldarr on 06 December 2008, 23:44:06
When I bought my previous Omega - a 1999 2.5 I checked the stamps in the service book and all ok and done almost bang on the intervals - done the deal and then got it home and eventually got around to calling the dealer that had stamped the service book to get a print out of each service - they had no history of the car ever being there - So being cautious I had the cambelt changed, had it fully serviced at a trusted local garage, changed all the budget tyres for Michelins and had the brake fluid changed - front discs and pads and a full GM exhuast system, Oh and had the front bumper and bonnet re-sprayed as the laquer was lifting in places - was just starting to enjoy the car and it got written off by a japanese guy pulling out in front of me in his brand new Nissan 4x4 - that was also when I found out that none of the airbags worked!