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Title: What would YOU do....
Post by: stuart30 on 12 December 2008, 23:36:27
My wife on returning form the Philippines recently was sporting a black eye and swollen cheek.

Long and short of it is there was a family disagreement and her brother ran at her and with the full force he could managed punched her in the face....when he realised what he had done fled the village (wife's family own several properties close by each other) but as of today is now back as if nothing happened.

My wife (who"s only little) was knocked unconscious and taken too hospital...luckily the following day (yes the next DAY) she woke up feeling sick and disorientated but no broken bones.

Brother in law heard what happened but is too cowardly too do anything (wife's brother through years of drinking heavily is mentally unhinged)....so im left in the position of ""having"" too deal with him,i cant possibly do nothing as firstly no one hurts my family and gets away with it and secondly my wife would be humiliated in the eyes of the locals.

Ive spoken too the wife at length and the only two options she agree"s with are.

1st Borrow brother in laws (not loaded) revolver (hand guns are legal over there) and scare the living daylights out of her brother....drag him out of his house and threaten too shoot him.

2nd Dont tell her family were coming over for a visit....then pay him an unannounced visit and teach him how it feels someone 3 times his size belting him.

Be interested in opinions or suggestions on how too deal with this as its really eating me up inside.
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Post by: markey mark on 12 December 2008, 23:39:35
i would knock ten bells of shite out of him mate  >:( >:(
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Post by: Richie London on 12 December 2008, 23:41:26
ive been through all this with my sister yrs ago. her bloke would hit her, she rings me and he does a runner, next day she tells me to forget it. this went on and on till i finally stopped it myself.
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Post by: stuart30 on 12 December 2008, 23:41:35
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i would knock ten bells of shite out of him mate  >:( >:(


That was my first thought...was even on the phone too boss too sub me the air fare.

However prison in the Philippines isnt like it is over here.....so need too box clever.
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Post by: BigAl on 12 December 2008, 23:41:53
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i would knock ten bells of shite out of him mate  >:( >:(
I'm with Markey Mark on this >:(
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Post by: hans solo on 12 December 2008, 23:42:38
he def needs sorting out.
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Post by: markey mark on 12 December 2008, 23:46:30
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i would knock ten bells of shite out of him mate  >:( >:(


That was my first thought...was even on the phone too boss too sub me the air fare.

However prison in the Philippines isnt like it is over here.....so need too box clever.

do it the day you are returning and do it so he carnt speak or write  :y
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Post by: zippo on 12 December 2008, 23:51:02
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i would knock ten bells of shite out of him mate  >:( >:(


That was my first thought...was even on the phone too boss too sub me the air fare.

However prison in the Philippines isnt like it is over here.....so need too box clever.

do it the day you are returning and do it so he carnt speak or write  :y
sounds good to me  :y :y :y :y
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Post by: stuart30 on 12 December 2008, 23:52:07
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i would knock ten bells of shite out of him mate  >:( >:(


That was my first thought...was even on the phone too boss too sub me the air fare.

However prison in the Philippines isnt like it is over here.....so need too box clever.

do it the day you are returning and do it so he carnt speak or write  :y

That's what i suggested too the wife...im not sure if physical violence is the answer or intimidation.

One side of me wants too hurt him...the other wants too scare him too death hence why i asked the wife about my brother in laws gun.

What ever i do needs too mess him up so bad he never forgets.
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Post by: Jay w on 12 December 2008, 23:58:21
he need to go for a 'walk' with you.....and a 'chat'

If i was in your shoes i would make sure no one sees you going for your 'walk' and make sure that he cant talk about the 'chat' you have had until you are out of the country......

Be careful thought, there is a fine line between sorting someone out and losing control......and it ending up being far more serious
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Post by: Martin_1962 on 12 December 2008, 23:59:43
Thump him - guns can be nasty
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Post by: zippo on 12 December 2008, 23:59:59
id have thought having a gun shoved in your face would mess up anyone let alone mess up their pants for them
Title: Re: What would YOU do....
Post by: stuart30 on 13 December 2008, 00:09:00
Trouble is ""going for a walk"" is that theres people everywhere...virtually impossible too do anything with being seen,not that it would be of any concern.

Reason thought about the gun (just an old revolver) was he wouldn't know it wasn't loaded and seeing/hearing that hammer click as it falls.????

My mum who is normally very level headed and placid suggested sending his family (wife/grown up kids) a condolence card or possibly a wheelchair brochure.....although i think that would be too subtle. ;D

Whats really effected me and the wife too a lesser degree is if anything had happened such as hitting her head whilst knocked out or suffering from side effects (ex wife had epilepsy through a head injury) my twins would have been stranded 6000 miles from home....just makes my blood run cold.
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Post by: damon80 on 13 December 2008, 00:09:36
First of all, you're upset - and understandably so!  Someone's hurt the one you love, and there's nothing what hurts a bloke more than that.

But, the second you point a gun - loaded or not - you're as bad, if not worse, than him.  Plus worse case scenario is that you're looking at doing a fair bit of bird in a foreign country.

I'm a firm beliver in the fact that guns don't kill people - the person holding the gun does.  Gun's aren't an object of power-status; they're something that is a priveledge, and something that should be respected.

The fact that you're even suggesting such a thing really does concern me, particularly seeing as kids read this forum...

But like I said, I do understand that you're really upset.  If I were you, I'd bide my time - there'll come a point when he wants a favour/help, and then you can tell him where to go.   :y
Title: Re: What would YOU do....
Post by: stuart30 on 13 December 2008, 00:16:04
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First of all, you're upset - and understandably so!  Someone's hurt the one you love, and there's nothing what hurts a bloke more than that.

But, the second you point a gun - loaded or not - you're as bad, if not worse, than him.  Plus worse case scenario is that you're looking at doing a fair bit of bird in a foreign country.

I'm a firm believer in the fact that guns don't kill people - the person holding the gun does.  Gun's aren't an object of power-status; they're something that is a priveledge, and something that should be respected.

The fact that you're even suggesting such a thing really does concern me, particularly seeing as kids read this forum...

But like I said, I do understand that you're really upset.  If I were you, I'd bide my time - there'll come a point when he wants a favour/help, and then you can tell him where to go.   :y


Appreciate what your saying and normally id agree....turn the other cheek.

Unfortunately this isn't going too work...rightly or wrongly he has too be dealt with,if i have too sink too his level then so be it.

There's much more at stake then male pride...although i freely admit it hurts like hell....its the fact she"s been humiliated and hurt in the process.

For no other reason than the fact my kids could have lost there mum i"ll take care of him....
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Post by: BigAl on 13 December 2008, 00:19:06
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Brother in law heard what happened but is too cowardly too do anything
How about telling him to sort it or you will sort them both out ?
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Post by: albitz on 13 December 2008, 00:20:56
could the wider family circle not ostricise him,tell him to leave and not come back ? :-/
Title: Re: What would YOU do....
Post by: stuart30 on 13 December 2008, 00:23:11
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Brother in law heard what happened but is too cowardly too do anything
How about telling him to sort it or you will sort them both out ?

First question too the missus was why the hell didnt he do something...but too be fair the brother in law is a lovely guy but not the physical sort and i really cant blame him for not tackling her brother.
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Post by: Baron Von Spongebob on 13 December 2008, 00:25:31
A subtle approach is need.

Hit him as hard as you can.
Then point the piece in his face.
Cock it and tell him, You do it again i will pull the trigger.

Make sure he wont say anything to get you in trouble.

I am a big believer of dont get mad get even but, If someone steps over the line then its an eye for an eye.
No pun inteneded.
Title: Re: What would YOU do....
Post by: stuart30 on 13 December 2008, 00:26:58
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could the wider family circle not ostricise him,tell him to leave and not come back ? :-/

They have...he"s lost any land rights or family rights as a whole (as has his immediate family) which will have a huge negative effect on him...the family are in the process of selling the plot his house is built on (bamboo native house so clearing it wouldn't be an issue).

I just feel i need too do something...too be fair its only the second time in 30 odd years Ive felt this strongly about something.
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Post by: albitz on 13 December 2008, 00:31:22
If they stick to their plan then it sounds like he is pretty well oppsed.
just need him told to move to a different area as you intend to re-arrange his features during an unannounced visit in the near future.
living in fear is worse than getting a kicking in my experience.
Also saves you from risking a stretch in a philipino jail. :y
Title: Re: What would YOU do....
Post by: stuart30 on 13 December 2008, 00:35:10
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If they stick to their plan then it sounds like he is pretty well oppsed.
just need him told to move to a different area as you intend to re-arrange his features during an unannounced visit in the near future.
living in fear is worse than getting a kicking in my experience.
Also saves you from risking a stretch in a philipino jail. :y

That's whats crossed my mind....the intimidation/fear might have a greater impact on his mental health.

Trouble is due too years of excessive drinking (they make there own coconut wine which is hideously potent) we don't think he"s the full shilling anyway.
Title: Re: What would YOU do....
Post by: albitz on 13 December 2008, 00:37:50
Can they have people sectioned over there ?
Title: Re: What would YOU do....
Post by: stuart30 on 13 December 2008, 00:41:20
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Can they have people sectioned over there ?

Not in the province as the infrastructure isnt in place sadly...that and family would normally take care of the person in need. :(
Title: Re: What would YOU do....
Post by: Gaffers on 13 December 2008, 07:11:53
Firstly, as someone who uses firearms on a regular basis I would strongly advise NOT to use the pistol.  It is a lethal force and an accident or too much temptation can have you locked away for many years in a prison where you will be called mary (or mai chong)

However, violence toward women really gets my back up and I agree that the local customs need to be taken into account on this one.  Go over there and scared the shit out of him physically and then ask the family why they havent done it and that you are ashamed that he has not been punished by the family.
Title: Re: What would YOU do....
Post by: gwa on 13 December 2008, 08:38:47
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My wife on returning form the Philippines recently was sporting a black eye and swollen cheek.

Long and short of it is there was a family disagreement and her brother ran at her and with the full force he could managed punched her in the face....when he realised what he had done fled the village (wife's family own several properties close by each other) but as of today is now back as if nothing happened.

My wife (who"s only little) was knocked unconscious and taken too hospital...luckily the following day (yes the next DAY) she woke up feeling sick and disorientated but no broken bones.

Brother in law heard what happened but is too cowardly too do anything (wife's brother through years of drinking heavily is mentally unhinged)....so im left in the position of ""having"" too deal with him,i cant possibly do nothing as firstly no one hurts my family and gets away with it and secondly my wife would be humiliated in the eyes of the locals.

Ive spoken too the wife at length and the only two options she agree"s with are.

1st Borrow brother in laws (not loaded) revolver (hand guns are legal over there) and scare the living daylights out of her brother....drag him out of his house and threaten too shoot him.

2nd Dont tell her family were coming over for a visit....then pay him an unannounced visit and teach him how it feels someone 3 times his size belting him.

Be interested in opinions or suggestions on how too deal with this as its really eating me up inside.

I would settle for '2nd' repeated by '2nd' then put '2nd' on a loop.... but I'd get someone else to do it 'cos idiots like that will run to the police, but with no bruises on your mits , little proof of involvement.
 ;D :y