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Title: What an absolute pain in the backside...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 13 December 2008, 20:10:13
I did an oil and filter change, among other things, for a member on Thursday.

It had the paper type filter fitted.

As soon as I looked at the cap, I saw it had been totally mullered, and thought "oh dear", or words to that effect.

I managed to get a tool on there, and started to slowly apply pressure - it eventually "went" and I thought great.

No such luck - would appear the cap was still tight, and the housing spinning on the block. :(

In the end, the housing was just wiggling around with oil dripping out the back of it. ACK - Can't currently re-tighten, and can't remove, without getting that cap off.

I tried all sorts, tried putting a strap around the housing and loosening the cap, no go. I tried holding the housing in some oil filter pliers while removing the cap = nope, just kept slipping.

In the end, I managed to get an oil filter chain to hold on the housing, and a special socket to hold on the cap. I was then able to remove the housing from the block, clean it up, and refit properly with a new filter - ensuring the cap was only at 15nm, not the 150 it probably was before!!!

Such ham fisted workmanship really annoys me, and took up a few extra hours of our time for me and the client.

It was a bit of an uncomfortable moment for a few minutes, whoever fitted it last wants shooting  :(

Title: Re: What an absolute pain in the backside...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 13 December 2008, 20:11:58
At least after spending all afternoon on this, I had the pleasure of a cambelt change by handheld lights!!

Title: Re: What an absolute pain in the backside...
Post by: Dazzler on 13 December 2008, 20:14:02
It is a nightmare when things like that happen.
That is the down side of working on other peoples cars too.

Good on you for sticking at it tho James....top chap ;)
Title: Re: What an absolute pain in the backside...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 13 December 2008, 20:18:43
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It is a nightmare when things like that happen.
That is the down side of working on other peoples cars too.

Good on you for sticking at it tho James....top chap ;)

Well I didn't intend on leaving the guy without any transport, so had to do something.

Worst case scenario would be having to grind a cap off to remove the housing, or drilling holes in the housing to put something through and hold it -

Thankfully it didn't come to that, because that would be a real last resort, and thankfully I found a way of holding it still.

I personally like the design of these filters - as long as they're used properly!
Title: Re: What an absolute pain in the backside...
Post by: Dusty on 13 December 2008, 22:04:33
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I did an oil and filter change, among other things, for a member on Thursday.

It had the paper type filter fitted.

As soon as I looked at the cap, I saw it had been totally mullered, and thought "oh dear", or words to that effect.

I managed to get a tool on there, and started to slowly apply pressure - it eventually "went" and I thought great.

No such luck - would appear the cap was still tight, and the housing spinning on the block. :(

In the end, the housing was just wiggling around with oil dripping out the back of it. ACK - Can't currently re-tighten, and can't remove, without getting that cap off.

I tried all sorts, tried putting a strap around the housing and loosening the cap, no go. I tried holding the housing in some oil filter pliers while removing the cap = nope, just kept slipping.

In the end, I managed to get an oil filter chain to hold on the housing, and a special socket to hold on the cap. I was then able to remove the housing from the block, clean it up, and refit properly with a new filter - ensuring the cap was only at 15nm, not the 150 it probably was before!!!

Such ham fisted workmanship really annoys me, and took up a few extra hours of our time for me and the client.

It was a bit of an uncomfortable moment for a few minutes, whoever fitted it last wants shooting  :(



Well done for sticking with it ,and sorting it out in the end. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: What an absolute pain in the backside...
Post by: feeutfo on 13 December 2008, 22:28:29
i get the impression only vx monkeys are capable of doing stuff up that tight. I think they swing from the longest spanner they can find when its on a ramp. Its almost impossible to do up that tight on the drive, you cant get the leverage. Or it glues itself on.
Title: Re: What an absolute pain in the backside...
Post by: Tonka. on 13 December 2008, 22:44:46
Exactly the same thing happened to me this week. Usual time for me to change oil and filter on me past car would be 45 mins with a brew in the middle.

The housing spun like a goodun. Three hours later after much swearing and many configurations of tools including blowlamp the thing was back on the car.  >:(

Awful. Just awful. But I am ready for it next time.  :y :y
Title: Re: What an absolute pain in the backside...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 13 December 2008, 23:44:27
Might be worth carrying a few spare housings...  Or the threaded inserts to convert them to normal filters. And some lights, of course...

All's well that ends well. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: What an absolute pain in the backside...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 13 December 2008, 23:54:04
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Might be worth carrying a few spare housings...  Or the threaded inserts to convert them to normal filters. And some lights, of course...

All's well that ends well. :y

Kevin

Lights were not a prob, my new LED ones are super and need no mains.

I will definately carry a filter conversion kit, though!!
Title: Re: What an absolute pain in the backside...
Post by: TheBoy on 14 December 2008, 08:56:21
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I personally like the design of these filters - as long as they're used properly!
if used properly, they work.  My gripe is the stupid cost of the filters.  Fortunately my MV6 takes the cheaper canister spin-on types.