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Title: M62 Deathwish
Post by: amigov6 on 23 December 2008, 22:31:14
Heading home from Winnington (Northwich) this afternoon Bradford area a Sprinter size box van was crawling along the hard shoulder indicating to pull out. I'm in the inside lane, my truck sits on the limiter @ 57/58mph. Cars in the centre lane are passing me on my right. I can gross 44t but was 37 ish (enough). He won't i thought, he'll build up speed before rejoining the carriageway...did he break. Straight out in front of me!!! I anchored up that hard i got 5th wheel bang that hard it shook the cab. (some of you will know what i mean but it's BAD) Just before hitting him i came off the brake & used the hard shoulder to avoid the cretin, there was smoke, horns & flashing headlights from other vehicles behind me who nearly hit him themselves. That should've been a proper pile up.
   I wonder if this bloke realizes how lucky his family are to have the husband/Daddy with them this Xmas. :-?
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: Del Boy on 23 December 2008, 22:33:41
Glad your ok mate, glad he is too but wouldn't of happened if he was sensible.
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: ngrainqey on 23 December 2008, 22:34:40
i think you should have just rammed him guy!
people like this deserve to be "taught a lesson"
how can anybody be so unobservant, retarded, moronish, disregarding to others?
what happened after you hit him anyway?
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: Entwood on 23 December 2008, 22:34:42
Glad to hear you're OK  :y :y :y   .... your cab into the back of him wouldn't have done you much good either .. :(

Prats like that don't realise what they are doing ... I wonder how  many would have ploughed into the back of you if you had actually hit him ...

doesn't bear thinking about ....  :(
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: Danny on 23 December 2008, 22:35:58
in a vehicle the size of yours the SAFEST thing to have done would have been to RAM THE F*****R off the carriageway, steering your wagon slightly to the right on impact thus forcing his little van towards the shoulder!

every single day, and usually no more than 5 minutes apart, i see thousands of thousands of drivers who should NEVER be allowed to drive and its a wonder they have licenses

...and thats just in a 10 mile radius of my home
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: hans solo on 23 December 2008, 22:38:16
Bloomin lucky there, could have been a right mess. glad all ok with you.
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: Entwood on 23 December 2008, 22:44:31
I'm sorry guys .. but I fail to see how suggesting ramming anyone at 50 mph can ever be considered a "safe"  procedure.

It is pure stupidity to even think it.

And before you all start on about how you can do it safely ... b*****ks.

There are so many possibilities that could occur on contact that you haven't got a clue what would happen, and you would probably take out a whole load of innocent folks as well.
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 23 December 2008, 22:44:36
Glad your ok mate.... :)
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: Bandit127 on 23 December 2008, 22:53:34
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Heading home from Winnington (Northwich) this afternoon Bradford area a Sprinter size box van was crawling along the hard shoulder indicating to pull out. I'm in the inside lane, my truck sits on the limiter @ 57/58mph. Cars in the centre lane are passing me on my right. I can gross 44t but was 37 ish (enough). He won't i thought, he'll build up speed before rejoining the carriageway...did he break. Straight out in front of me!!! I anchored up that hard i got 5th wheel bang that hard it shook the cab. (some of you will know what i mean but it's BAD) Just before hitting him i came off the brake & used the hard shoulder to avoid the cretin, there was smoke, horns & flashing headlights from other vehicles behind me who nearly hit him themselves. That should've been a proper pile up.
   I wonder if this bloke realizes how lucky his family are to have the husband/Daddy with them this Xmas. :-?
break me!

You got Christmas early I would say. I know it would have been his fault but you, with your 37t and expected high driving standards, would have been the one explaining it for months to come. If not charged with DC&A just in case you might have snoozed off.....

Good skills and a right result.

Happy Christmas.  :y

Jim
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: Nickbat on 23 December 2008, 23:14:12
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I'm sorry guys .. but I fail to see how suggesting ramming anyone at 50 mph can ever be considered a "safe"  procedure.

It is pure stupidity to even think it.

And before you all start on about how you can do it safely ... b*****ks.

There are so many possibilities that could occur on contact that you haven't got a clue what would happen, and you would probably take out a whole load of innocent folks as well.

Quite right, Entwood. The voice of sanity.  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: Baron Von Spongebob on 23 December 2008, 23:22:42
I understand what its like...Christmas did come early for you and him..

Now if you were a Czech driver.. ;)

Glad it was all ok for you.. :y
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: Vamps on 23 December 2008, 23:25:25
My daughter and I were out visiting and shopping today and went from Stockton to Darlington along the A66. Perfect driving conditions and noticed flashing lights ahead.

An accident, goodness knows how it happened but one car was well into the verge, several feet, with front end stoved in and a second car in the field, couldn’t see where the damage was but could only assume one car had run up the back on another and both ended up well off the road, no junctions.  ::)

Could see kids standing around so did not look too serious, just the distance from the road that shocked us.
Conditions were perfect, not low sun in that direction, just beggars believe as to how some accidents happen............. :(
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: ngrainqey on 23 December 2008, 23:25:50
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I'm sorry guys .. but I fail to see how suggesting ramming anyone at 50 mph can ever be considered a "safe"  procedure.

It is pure stupidity to even think it.

And before you all start on about how you can do it safely ... b*****ks.

There are so many possibilities that could occur on contact that you haven't got a clue what would happen, and you would probably take out a whole load of innocent folks as well.

lol sorry entwood... i'll modify what i said..
if it were just you and him on the motorway....ram him!
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: Nickbat on 23 December 2008, 23:33:56
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I'm sorry guys .. but I fail to see how suggesting ramming anyone at 50 mph can ever be considered a "safe"  procedure.

It is pure stupidity to even think it.

And before you all start on about how you can do it safely ... b*****ks.

There are so many possibilities that could occur on contact that you haven't got a clue what would happen, and you would probably take out a whole load of innocent folks as well.

lol sorry entwood... i'll modify what i said..
if it were just you and him on the motorway....ram him!

..and if (as I recently saw on Road Wars), there is an unrestrained infant in the van, how would you feel then when he/she shoots through the windscreen?  :-?

Impacts should be avoided. Period.  
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: Nickbat on 23 December 2008, 23:39:59
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Heading home from Winnington (Northwich) this afternoon Bradford area a Sprinter size box van was crawling along the hard shoulder indicating to pull out. I'm in the inside lane, my truck sits on the limiter @ 57/58mph. Cars in the centre lane are passing me on my right. I can gross 44t but was 37 ish (enough). He won't i thought, he'll build up speed before rejoining the carriageway...did he break. Straight out in front of me!!! I anchored up that hard i got 5th wheel bang that hard it shook the cab. (some of you will know what i mean but it's BAD) Just before hitting him i came off the brake & used the hard shoulder to avoid the cretin, there was smoke, horns & flashing headlights from other vehicles behind me who nearly hit him themselves. That should've been a proper pile up.
   I wonder if this bloke realizes how lucky his family are to have the husband/Daddy with them this Xmas. :-?


Incidentally, top driving. Well done on your skills!  :y :y :y
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: amigov6 on 23 December 2008, 23:47:39
Had i not have used the hard shoulder there'd be nothing left of him or his van. I've seen it first hand where all you can see is a crumpled box with an arm & a leg sticking out...it's sickening, you don't see this on telly only if it happens in front of you or you're one of the last through before the road is shut.
   I wish the law were there, nicked him for driving like a complete cock & showed him what so nearly happened to him. I'm not being melodramatic, he was seconds away from a hideous death.

   Of course you can imagine the headlines next day,

   "Van driver killed by HGV" They would, i guarantee it.
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: Vamps on 23 December 2008, 23:57:02
And how hard to prove that he pulled out, rather than you falling asleep at the wheel................
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: SP_3.2 on 24 December 2008, 00:56:37
Glad you are ok Guy . Shows very good reactions and driving skills
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: stuart30 on 24 December 2008, 06:53:59
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Heading home from Winnington (Northwich) this afternoon Bradford area a Sprinter size box van was crawling along the hard shoulder indicating to pull out. I'm in the inside lane, my truck sits on the limiter @ 57/58mph. Cars in the centre lane are passing me on my right. I can gross 44t but was 37 ish (enough). He won't i thought, he'll build up speed before rejoining the carriageway...did he break. Straight out in front of me!!! I anchored up that hard i got 5th wheel bang that hard it shook the cab. (some of you will know what i mean but it's BAD) Just before hitting him i came off the brake & used the hard shoulder to avoid the cretin, there was smoke, horns & flashing headlights from other vehicles behind me who nearly hit him themselves. That should've been a proper pile up.
   I wonder if this bloke realizes how lucky his family are to have the husband/Daddy with them this Xmas. :-?

If the same situation happend again...would you do anything differently.?

Certainly sounds like you saved the day with quick reactions. :y
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: amigov6 on 24 December 2008, 23:50:04
Dodgy film & this one was the truckers fault but yesterdays result would've been the same. It was close.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vbLQXdrPM-Q&feature=related
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: Richie London on 24 December 2008, 23:55:30
we was working in holborn a few yrs ago, bloke went home for weekend back to leeds, he hit a car on the m1 causing i think it was 16 cars to crash, was on the news and radio, tail;back was about 20 miles. he reckoned as people passed slowly they were hurling abuse at him from the window, he said he actually soiled his pants he was that scared. some real cretins about .
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: amigov6 on 25 December 2008, 00:20:04
I can't deny some truck drivers are a holes & bully smaller vehicles. They are out of order & i hate them as much as anyone else as they get the rest of us a bad name. Bad Apple syndrome.
   Many junctions & roundabouts are laid out with cars/vans in mind but we still have to use them. Not pinching half your lane for fun, we physically need it. By the same count i do meet many car drivers who understand, stop in the right place & flash me through. Only costs them a few seconds, flash the lights, wave, beep air horns in thanks, everyone's on thier way in a good mood. Some just don't get it.
      Easy to tell a driver from a motorist!!!!!
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: hotel21 on 25 December 2008, 00:22:56
You did the right thing, in the right way, at the right time. Chap in the van didn't.  Everyone goes home to Santa.  Result, in my book....   :y
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: amigov6 on 25 December 2008, 00:56:03
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You did the right thing, in the right way, at the right time. Chap in the van didn't.  Everyone goes home to Santa.  Result, in my book....   :y
That sums it up Broocie & i'll stop now, suffice to say stuff happens most days & i don't post it, just this one was 'kin close. You of all folk know what would've happened had i stayed behind him trying to stop.   My cab, his bulkhead & nothing left to put in the bodybag. This one shook me up. Why should feel responsible for a loss of life, i so nearly was. Thanks all for compliments on my reactions but TBH it was a combination of blind panic & instinct.
   Finally some sort of awareness of larger vehicles should be added to the Driving Test.
Title: Re: M62 Deathwish
Post by: Ken T on 25 December 2008, 01:09:15
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You did the right thing, in the right way, at the right time. Chap in the van didn't.  Everyone goes home to Santa.  Result, in my book....   :y
That sums it up Broocie & i'll stop now, suffice to say stuff happens most days & i don't post it, just this one was 'kin close. You of all folk know what would've happened had i stayed behind him trying to stop.   My cab, his bulkhead & nothing left to put in the bodybag. This one shook me up. Why should feel responsible for a loss of life, i so nearly was. Thanks all for compliments on my reactions but TBH it was a combination of blind panic & instinct.
   Finally some sort of awareness of larger vehicles should be added to the Driving Test.

or they make sure more drivers in Bradford have actually passed their test.  :(

I don't know if I mentioned this before, but drivers over in Northern Ireland ae a lot moe likely to let people in, cross in front of them etc. Drivers seem a bit slower over there, seems they just think at a slower pace. Wonder if it means less accidents.

Ken