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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Danny on 21 December 2008, 22:38:12
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Wrong time to look but I am hoping to get one of these in a few months, just wondering what your thoughts are??
something like an 03 plate, it'll be the 1.9 diesel 150ps version, identical to the one pictured, as the tax and fuel costs will be very little more than my corsa!
the reason is I'm finding my corsa, although worry-free and unbelievably cheap, is too small for me, and its dawned on me that i dont like feeling like i've just passed my test in it and after looking at the vectra hatch (not drove one yet) seems practically perfect, even my girlfriend likes them, and i'd love to be driving big cars again
i know i know, wrong wheel drive, but much more economical than an omega for now
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Last week you were defo getting another Mig ;)
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there not bad danny but the signum is lots better ! :y
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Many will slate them, personally i like em....... :y
Dash is a tad bland though...
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Ok as a bland method of transport, nothing wrong with them but i doubt you'd "LOVE IT" It's a boring repmobile really. You say a Mig's more to run? Maybe but newer cars cost more in service history stamps to keep any value, parts & labour are'nt cheap & for the initial purchase price you could save at least half on a newer Omega which would offset the running costs (only fuel really) for two or three years at least.
Try doing an overall cost comparison over a given period including depreciation ins. etc. If you really want a Mig you might be pleasantly surprised! :y
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nice looking cars but not a great amount of room in the back
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nice looking cars but not a great amount of room in the back
I wont be in the back ;D
thanks for the comments, i'm fussy but indecisive at the same time, and i'm fully aware that my thinking is completely illogical, if i had an omega i wouldnt be happy unless it was a 3.0 or 3.2 elite, but for some reason i'm very much taken by the SRi vectra (signums arent quite as cheap yet), and the blandness of the dash doesnt bother me either ::)
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you must be a married man then ;)
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nice looking cars but not a great amount of room in the back
I wont be in the back ;D
thanks for the comments, i'm fussy but indecisive at the same time, and i'm fully aware that my thinking is completely illogical, if i had an omega i wouldnt be happy unless it was a 3.0 or 3.2 elite, but for some reason i'm very much taken by the SRi vectra (signums arent quite as cheap yet), and the blandness of the dash doesnt bother me either ::)
Looks like you've already made your mind up. Given the depreciation (or lack of it on an Omega) I'd be very, very surprised if the Omega weren't cheaper. I drive 3.2 and think it is cheaper than a Vectra-C disiesel.
Fuel economy does not go down in direct correlation with engine size. A larger engine works less hard (unless you go heavy with the right foot) and it is not "what" you drive, but "how" you drive.
My personal opinion, for what it's worth, is; don't bother and buy a nice 3.2 Elite Omega.
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Allways liked the look of these from the outside, but found the interior to be rather bland, that was in an SRi model about 2004. I had to sit in the back on that occasion and found the height of the rear window to be laughable. I am 6'4" and only just see out of the rear side windows. Ok so you probably won't be in the back, but for anyone you carry it could seem claustrophobic.
Apart from that probably ok, but do remember there are lots of them about so make sure you buy the best you can get in your price range.
HTH
Mike
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IMHO i like that style of Vectra, but would have to be a hell of lot better than my Mig for me to have one.
I just can't fault my Mig at all, one of my best choices :) :) :) :) :) :y :y
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My previous car was a vectra C SRi 2.2 DTi and it was practically bullet proof. Watch out for the steering arms and rear lower wishbones which seem to be common MOT failures. I was unlucky with mine as the fuel pump decided to pack in which basically killed it as it is a £2500 replacement but i don't think it is a common thing to fail.
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Driven a few, and the lower performance ones aren't bad. Dull would sum it up, but it does the job. On very long journeys (100s of miles) comfort is an issue, unlike Omega.
The more powerful ones have handling issues - mate at work has a Imrcher'd up 3.2 GSi, serious traction issues, and horrendous understeer, its quite a handful to drive quickly, even in the dry. Truely awful in the wet.
The dash is a bit plastic, bit like beemers really, only even more tacky imho.
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No mate, do nothing for me either.
Boring looks and horrific interior.....hate the bright orange display set smack in the middle of the dash....what an eyesore !!!
Dont believe for a second that you couldnt get an Omega for the same if not less money......and I know which I would sooner have.....
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My previous car was a vectra C SRi 2.2 DTi and it was practically bullet proof. Watch out for the steering arms and rear lower wishbones which seem to be common MOT failures. I was unlucky with mine as the fuel pump decided to pack in which basically killed it as it is a £2500 replacement but i don't think it is a common thing to fail.
What! Are you sure? ;D
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Bet you wished you'd never asked!!!!!!!!!!
Think they call it tough love. Put that card away. :y
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The belt-cam FIAT/Alfa/GM 1.9 litre 150PS diesel is very impressive. Not as gruff and ‘sudden’ as VAG’s new 140PS 2.0 litre. But with masses of mid-range torque that fling the car forwards in 3rd and 4th gear. I can’t imagine any mid-managers relegated from their 3.0 litre V6s feeling short-changed in that department. Vauxhall certainly gets its gearing right these days. The 150 pulls around 35mph per 1,000rpm in 6th which is not only pleasant and relaxing, it means that a legal 70 you’re at the perfect revs to quickly increase speed if you need to without changing down. And in contrast to last week’s Astra turbo, instead of drinking petrol at 30 – 35mpg you’re sipping diesel at 40 – 45mpg.
A review from Honest John.
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im with you on this Danny, i myself have been looking at these and am contemplating replacing the miggy early next year,
yes the miggy is a lovely car and great on long runs but i have to look at practicality
the vectra is 6 groups lower on insurance (so a drop there)
and is a lot better on fuel :y
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my mind still isnt set, looking at 1.8 petrol now ;D
my corsa will still sell for around the £2500 mark (the little chavs just love them) and i could get a vectra C possibly as new as 04 plate with reasonable spec and average mileage for that!
the look of the vectra in my pic has grown on me a hell of a lot, moreso than omegas now
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Danny you have a PM, see what you think! :)
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few pictures, but it seams sub 3k gets your a 3.2 Veccy C...
(http://pictures.autotrader.co.uk/imgser-uk/servlet/media?id=833144165)
(http://pictures.autotrader.co.uk/imgser-uk/servlet/media?id=833144186)
(http://pictures.autotrader.co.uk/imgser-uk/servlet/media?id=833144139)
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The 3.2 Vectra C I had was a nightmare to put the power down in, loads of torque but no traction to go with it.
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cheers. Replied :y
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my mind still isnt set, looking at 1.8 petrol now ;D
my corsa will still sell for around the £2500 mark (the little chavs just love them) and i could get a vectra C possibly as new as 04 plate with reasonable spec and average mileage for that!
the look of the vectra in my pic has grown on me a hell of a lot, moreso than omegas now
Mrs LD had an 02 plated 1.8 as a company car and it literally drank petrol... I'm a fairly economical driver and struggled to get much more than 300 miles to the tank... The 2.0 DTi I had was on an 03 plate and was OK... Still managed to get it sideways in the wet but was really thrashing it! This did comfortably 450-500+ miles to the tank. Add to that the tax bands and smelly oil is the only way I'd go in a veccy. They are OK but I think they're a bit bland! ;) ;)
Get another mig... You know you want to ;D ;D :y :y
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instructed by swmbo to keep the corsa and save ourselves a lot of hassle and money while the house purchase is going through
she's right i suppose, even though i was offered £2600 for my corsa yesterday ::)
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instructed by swmbo to keep the corsa and save ourselves a lot of hassle and money while the house purchase is going through
she's right i suppose, even though i was offered £2600 for my corsa yesterday ::)
That's a nice mig there... :o ::) :-X
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instructed by swmbo to keep the corsa and save ourselves a lot of hassle and money while the house purchase is going through
she's right i suppose, even though i was offered £2600 for my corsa yesterday ::)
That's a nice mig there... :o ::) :-X
i know... stop it!!! ;D
Seen a stunning MV6 near me, a 2.6 manual on an 03 for less than that!!
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instructed by swmbo to keep the corsa and save ourselves a lot of hassle and money while the house purchase is going through
she's right i suppose, even though i was offered £2600 for my corsa yesterday ::)
That's a nice mig there... :o ::) :-X
i know... stop it!!! ;D
Seen a stunning MV6 near me, a 2.6 manual on an 03 for less than that!!
Sounds good - you know you want it, better than a gay Vectra
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I wish you lived a bit closer as I have an 08 1.9 CDTI SRI on my drive at the moment, its a hire car which I picked up as my last job of the day. The company has 100,s of these, the one I like is the Elite with leather, etc. TBH I would not like to be the 2nd or 3rd owner of one of these, the one outside has 11000( eleven thousand ) miles on, airbag and safeguard warning lights are on, front tyres have already been replaced, trim and upholstery looks dated already, nice to drive, powerful, 6 speed economy but as others have said, a little bland. I am in the lucky position of driving various new cars all day, all shapes and sizes, I'll list my favourites and the horrible ones.
Top dogs;
Volvo V50 and V70 diesel estates, fabulous, well built.
Passat TDi.
Focus and Focus S-Max.
Land Rover Freelander 2. 2.2 TD Auto - impressive if you like that sort of thing.
Saab 93 210 bhp.
Astra 1.9 CDTI - flying machine - 50 mpg in 6 speed format.
Merc CLS 320 CDI ( lottery winner territory )
Hounds;
Zafira - most troublesome car on the fleet, awful to drive, rattles everywhere, crap gearchange.
Mondeo - nice to drive but bodywork chips turn to rust instantly.
Fiat Bravo.
Most uncomfortable - Porsche Carrera S or Chevrolet Matiz - both hurt.
I would put the Vectra in the middle, nice engine and transmission, but poor quality and STUPID indicators spoil the car, we have also had a few with the front screen cracking in the same place.
I think that many manufacturers build their cars to last the warranty period, they have no interest in the 2nd and 3rd owners or when out of warranty. These are of course only my personal opinions and others will have different experiences and views of the cars listed. I drive about 1500 miles a week delivering these cars. Hope this adds some fuel to the fire.
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I wish you lived a bit closer as I have an 08 1.9 CDTI SRI on my drive at the moment, its a hire car which I picked up as my last job of the day. The company has 100,s of these, the one I like is the Elite with leather, etc. TBH I would not like to be the 2nd or 3rd owner of one of these, the one outside has 11000( eleven thousand ) miles on, airbag and safeguard warning lights are on, front tyres have already been replaced, trim and upholstery looks dated already, nice to drive, powerful, 6 speed economy but as others have said, a little bland. I am in the lucky position of driving various new cars all day, all shapes and sizes, I'll list my favourites and the horrible ones.
Top dogs;
Volvo V50 and V70 diesel estates, fabulous, well built.
Passat TDi.
Focus and Focus S-Max.
Land Rover Freelander 2. 2.2 TD Auto - impressive if you like that sort of thing.
Saab 93 210 bhp.
Astra 1.9 CDTI - flying machine - 50 mpg in 6 speed format.
Merc CLS 320 CDI ( lottery winner territory )
Hounds;
Zafira - most troublesome car on the fleet, awful to drive, rattles everywhere, crap gearchange.
Mondeo - nice to drive but bodywork chips turn to rust instantly.
Fiat Bravo.
Most uncomfortable - Porsche Carrera S or Chevrolet Matiz - both hurt.
I would put the Vectra in the middle, nice engine and transmission, but poor quality and STUPID indicators spoil the car, we have also had a few with the front screen cracking in the same place.
I think that many manufacturers build their cars to last the warranty period, they have no interest in the 2nd and 3rd owners or when out of warranty. These are of course only my personal opinions and others will have different experiences and views of the cars listed. I drive about 1500 miles a week delivering these cars. Hope this adds some fuel to the fire.
Meriva too :(
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The indicators aren't that bad once you get used to them! But I certainly prefer my mig.
Doesn't understeer that bad if you know how to drive it! Only if you put too much power on in a corner, will completly agree that they are terrible in the wet though, having done a 360 when i caught a puddle on the M62 one morning!
And yes fuel pump is that much to replace as it is sealed with the ECU for some strange reason and vx say it is a 6 hour job to fit! Mine is sat on my drive at the moment doing sod all in need of ressusitation but i cannot find a way to fix it! Recons cost £1500 just for the pump!
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The Airbag lamp is often down to a different driver moving the seat to their position and the connectors under the seat coming adrift, was a common fault on Vectra B and Astra G.