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Title: NOW THATS AN ENGINE!!!
Post by: Omegatoy on 03 January 2007, 00:35:35
http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

just check out the size of the bore!!!

OMEGATOY
Title: Re: NOW THATS AN ENGINE!!!
Post by: Gwilym on 03 January 2007, 00:38:38
No Mate, I checked the measurements and it won't fit in the engine bay
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Post by: Bo Bo on 03 January 2007, 07:18:25
It's a monster & probably runs better than mine at the moment  :(
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Post by: Admin on 03 January 2007, 10:33:40
Oh boy is that an engine!

I am just amazed by it all!  :D

Maximum torque: 5,608,312 lb/ft at 102rpm   :o :o
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Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 January 2007, 10:40:24
which is 147695 Bhp.....for the un-educated!
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Post by: tunnie on 03 January 2007, 10:53:30
must be a fun job to give that thing an oil and filter change!  ;D
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Post by: Allenm on 03 January 2007, 11:17:40
Now your arms really would ache after torquing the head bolts up on that beast!
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Post by: Markie on 03 January 2007, 12:07:27
A work of Art indeed :y
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Post by: Tony H on 03 January 2007, 12:44:43
Wouln't fancy picking up the fuel bill on that beasty ::)
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Post by: supermop on 03 January 2007, 13:34:15
probably consumes about 2 tanks worth per cylinder per stroke!

seen this before though, some japanese company making it for some big boats.
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Post by: The Barge Captain on 03 January 2007, 15:03:30
I've seen that before on here, but it sure is awsome dude.
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Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 January 2007, 15:03:57
Some smaller engines are just as efficient - by smaller I mean single digit thousands of hp

eg There is a Mirlees straight 8 of 3100bhp which achieves in a loco over 50% efficiency from fuel to rail.
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Post by: Phil on 03 January 2007, 15:59:28
Its alright, shame its a diesel!!

Do you think the owner will stick a K&N induction kit on it to get a bit more of a throaty roar???  ::)
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Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 January 2007, 16:41:29
I wonder what type of air cleaner is used?

Would it be a huge element, or a centrifugal cleaner
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Post by: Del Boy on 03 January 2007, 21:42:51
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No Mate, I checked the measurements and it won't fit in the engine bay

Damn won't fit in mine then ;)
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Post by: Martin_1962 on 04 January 2007, 23:19:42
How about this for complex - from wikipedia

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Napier_deltic_animation.gif)
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Post by: nixoro on 05 January 2007, 12:27:40
Its missing its cambelt/chain, must be massive though :y
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Post by: Martin_1962 on 05 January 2007, 12:56:55
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Its missing its cambelt/chain, must be massive though :y

It is a section of a D18 two stroke supercharged, about 6 foot high and about 10 foot long

Found in naval vessels and railway locos.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier_Deltic
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Post by: Pitchfork on 06 January 2007, 20:28:52
So why do we not use 2 stokes in cars/ trucks?
Are they not more efficient than 4 strokes?
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Post by: Chopsdad on 06 January 2007, 22:27:22
Are the tiny people a Vx stock item or do you have to order them in? ;D
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Post by: Andy B on 06 January 2007, 22:40:27
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So why do we not use 2 stokes in cars/ trucks?
Are they not more efficient than 4 strokes?
You never smelt a 2 stroke scooter as it screamed past you then.  ;D
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Post by: Markjay on 06 January 2007, 23:52:45
(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9195/rta96ccrankuc6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

' The Oompa-Loompas were busy at at Vauxhall Ellesmere Port V6 Plant '
Title: Re: NOW THATS AN ENGINE!!!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 06 January 2007, 23:59:33
Also smokey - I'll post a video still soon and demonstrate a D18 on full power, (can't use both engines on a preserved railway too much power)
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Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 January 2007, 14:12:17
Still from a 19 year old video tape

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/martinimber/9016.jpg)

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Post by: hotel21 on 07 January 2007, 14:21:56
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So why do we not use 2 stokes in cars/ trucks?
Are they not more efficient than 4 strokes?

These are two strokes for various reasons, main one being power output versus engine movement and low revolutions.

Dead slow ahead is generally 35 revs.  Not 350, but 35.  Flat out, full sea speed is generally 110 revs or so, not 11000 as some cars.

Also, propeller most times on really big beasties like this is fixed blade so for the ship to go astern, the engine runs in reverse.  The valve timing gear (if it has an exhaust valve, depends on make) and the fuel pump timing is altered to take account of change of rotation.  It develops the same power irrespective of engine rotation direction.

Oil sump is continually purified via a set of centrifuges, topped up when required.

Additional oil is injected into the cylinder bores below the top piston ring to ensure cylinder is lubricated and to improve sealing capability.

Smaller, 6 cylinder versions used to burn circa 35 tonnes fuel oil per day (35 000 litres) to get the ship around 250 to 300 nautical miles along the way, if laden.

Fuel oil is consistancy of Fowlers Black treacle which needed heating to a very high temperature to allow injection through a fuel valve which, incidentally, could be a two man lift.  The fuel valve, that is.....

I used to work on these things years ago as a plooky yoof.  Good fun, if a bit noisy and dirty!

B