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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Marie on 01 January 2009, 22:52:01
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well i have just been given a family car. well my grandad has had it from new.
its a rover 216 si auto. (1998) its 3 door petrol 1589cc white. its only got 60,327 on the clock. its got 12mths tax (well will have tomorrow) and mot is due on the 23rd.
grandad gave it to my old gits last year and they have left it on the drive for 12mths drove it 12 miles since they moted it last year.
its tidy just need the engine overhalling as half the history is missing. :( including the service handbook >:( so i have no idea whats been done when) all i know is the cam belt was done in jan 2002 at 23,711 miles cos there is a sticker under the bonet. i rang rover and they said its 60000 miles and 5yrs. so needs doing.
does anyone know of a rover forum that is a good OOF so i can get some well needed advice? and some where to get parts?
I have got to drive it home tomorrow ( carefully and slow) but then its been left on the drive untill such time i can do some work on it asap.
the cam cover looks like its leaking, i want to do the cambelt, maybe the headgasket as i dont know its interval, full service. just a dam good going over. their was mould all over the inside of the car, yuck and the batt was dead as a do do.
i recon i am looking around £200 - 250 to do all the work on it.
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Darn! Gave away my K series cam locking set, although they should only cost pennies. I assume it is a K series as something in the back of my mind tells me that the autos had the Honda engine a bit later?
Cam belt change was straightforward, IIRC.
HGF is common, of course, but not sure I'd do it as a matter of course. A coolant change would be worthwhile, though, and check for sludge in the header tank.
Don't recall any cam cover gasket issues but a mate of mine had one that sprung an oil leak from the head gasket IIRC.
Kevin
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Darn! Gave away my K series cam locking set, although they should only cost pennies. I assume it is a K series as something in the back of my mind tells me that the autos had the Honda engine a bit later?
Cam belt change was straightforward, IIRC.
HGF is common, of course, but not sure I'd do it as a matter of course. A coolant change would be worthwhile, though, and check for sludge in the header tank.
Don't recall any cam cover gasket issues but a mate of mine had one that sprung an oil leak from the head gasket IIRC.
Kevin
I have a K series locking kit :P
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Darn! Gave away my K series cam locking set, although they should only cost pennies. I assume it is a K series as something in the back of my mind tells me that the autos had the Honda engine a bit later?
Cam belt change was straightforward, IIRC.
HGF is common, of course, but not sure I'd do it as a matter of course. A coolant change would be worthwhile, though, and check for sludge in the header tank.
Don't recall any cam cover gasket issues but a mate of mine had one that sprung an oil leak from the head gasket IIRC.
Kevin
Kev - I think the later "bubble shapes" were all K series - with the older (Up to L reg) being the Honda varient - could be wrong!!
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Darn! Gave away my K series cam locking set, although they should only cost pennies. I assume it is a K series as something in the back of my mind tells me that the autos had the Honda engine a bit later?
Cam belt change was straightforward, IIRC.
HGF is common, of course, but not sure I'd do it as a matter of course. A coolant change would be worthwhile, though, and check for sludge in the header tank.
Don't recall any cam cover gasket issues but a mate of mine had one that sprung an oil leak from the head gasket IIRC.
Kevin
it is a K series engine. the front of the block was covered in gunk which looked like it was coming from the rocker gasket.
its just a bit dunting looking at it as i have never worked on a rover and dont know much about them. bit like when i started on OOF, now i am hapy to do most things! :)
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I have a K series locking kit :P
do you really where did you get it from and is there any tools you dont have!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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I have a K series locking kit :P
do you really where did you get it from and is there any tools you dont have!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Well, I don't have a P**is pump, but I don't think that's a "tool" by car standards, and is not something I would need to use ;D ;D
In all seriousness, the K series locking kit is pennies - but necessary!
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I have a K series locking kit :P
do you really where did you get it from and is there any tools you dont have!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Well, I don't have a P**is pump, but I don't think that's a "tool" by car standards, and is not something I would need to use ;D ;D
In all seriousness, the K series locking kit is pennies - but necessary!
Good grief did I just say that - I think it's time to put down the festive cheer and retire to bed :-X ;D
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I have a K series locking kit :P
do you really where did you get it from and is there any tools you dont have!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Well, I don't have a P**is pump, but I don't think that's a "tool" by car standards, and is not something I would need to use ;D ;D
In all seriousness, the K series locking kit is pennies - but necessary!
Good grief did I just say that - I think it's time to put down the festive cheer and retire to bed :-X ;D
Saved by the word filter to a certain extent but we know what you're trying to say....
Tunnie loves you the way you are. :-X
;)
Kevin
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I have a K series locking kit :P
do you really where did you get it from and is there any tools you dont have!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Well, I don't have a P**is pump, but I don't think that's a "tool" by car standards, and is not something I would need to use ;D ;D
In all seriousness, the K series locking kit is pennies - but necessary!
Good grief did I just say that - I think it's time to put down the festive cheer and retire to bed :-X ;D
Saved by the word filter to a certain extent but we know what you're trying to say....
Tunnie loves you the way you are. :-X
;)
Kevin
Oi you... I put those stars in, not a peice of software. I have some dignity ;D ;D
In all seriousness... probably best I compose a sensible reply tomorrow, now.... :y ;D
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I would not drive it until its had a brake service at the very least.......
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I would not drive it until its had a brake service at the very least.......
i have had a good look at the brakes and they seem ok, they will have a good going over when i get it home.
what else would you recommend i do to it.....
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That age it will be K series, and I have a locking wedge, though possible cheaper to buy one than post - Draper one (K16) is under a fiver from most places.
Being K series, pay mega attention to coolant. When you refill (I use Vx Red in hers) remember there is a bleed screw on transfer pipe, just to right of block. Is it dizzy, or 2 DIS setup, probably later at that age. Worth checking the plugs, either way, as minor misfires may also be a factor in the HG failures.
Other than that, fluid and filter change, and flush the brake fluid, and clean up front calipers and rear drums.
Not sure what to do with auto, but I have full dealer manuals here if you're stuck.
Try http://forums.mg-rover.org/ as well
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cheers TB its good to know that someone else on here has one.
just cant wait to get it in the garage and give it a good going over. (inbetween work and other things etc)
ill check out the rover forum too. :)
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Hi Marie... Change the water pump when you do the cam belt and also, although it's a right PITA, the thermostat! For some stupid reason they always seem to fail in the closed position on the rover k series!!
Personally I wouldn't worry about the HG until it fails... Then make sure you fit the uprated gasket. I'm just doing an 8v K series for Mrs LD!
Other than that, just the normal routine stuff :y :y :y :y
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K Series is one of the easiest cambelts to change! hardest part is sometimes the waterpump gets ceased in place but will come out eventually
The Honda Engine went upto P Reg 216's as a friend has a Manual 216 and hers has the honda lump (D Series)
Parts are nice and cheap! i got all of Mrs TMX always from Unipart as i found them the cheapest!
check/relace the PAS & Aircon & Alternator belts aswell these wear out easily
I used to use the VX 10W40 Semi Syn in Mrs TMX's i sold hers back in october sold it for £450 with 130k on the clock still ran sweat!
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I had a Honda engined 216 (non cat) in early 90s. Good engine if you revved the gonads off it. Pretty uneconomical, I used to average 25mpg, best I ever got was 37mpg on a run to North Wales once. Reliable engine with the exception of the ignitor unit, guaranteed to fail as often as a GM V6 crank sensor!
K series 1.6 in the 25, obviously with a cat. I reckon the Honda had slightly more performance, though the K you don't have to rag so had (though still need to rev it to get the best from it). And, oh boy, is the economy of the K better!
HG issues aside, I'd rather have a K based on all the factors that are part of the cause of the HG failures ::)
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well the journy home was uneventfull drove down alright.
have just spent the last 3 to 4 hours cleaning both cars the rover is now white instead of moss covered grey and my miggy you can see your face in it ;D
it was bloody cold had to have the cars running and blowers on as the water was freezing on contact. :o
just off to search the internet for rover spares.
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I had a Honda engined 216 (non cat) in early 90s. Good engine if you revved the gonads off it. Pretty uneconomical, I used to average 25mpg, best I ever got was 37mpg on a run to North Wales once. Reliable engine with the exception of the ignitor unit, guaranteed to fail as often as a GM V6 crank sensor!
K series 1.6 in the 25, obviously with a cat. I reckon the Honda had slightly more performance, though the K you don't have to rag so had (though still need to rev it to get the best from it). And, oh boy, is the economy of the K better!
HG issues aside, I'd rather have a K based on all the factors that are part of the cause of the HG failures ::)
as a note, the worst consumption in city and in -5 Celcius , clit averaged 36 mpg. (with racer boy driving style)
best was above 44-45 mpg in city..(summer)
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I had a Honda engined 216 (non cat) in early 90s. Good engine if you revved the gonads off it. Pretty uneconomical, I used to average 25mpg, best I ever got was 37mpg on a run to North Wales once. Reliable engine with the exception of the ignitor unit, guaranteed to fail as often as a GM V6 crank sensor!
K series 1.6 in the 25, obviously with a cat. I reckon the Honda had slightly more performance, though the K you don't have to rag so had (though still need to rev it to get the best from it). And, oh boy, is the economy of the K better!
HG issues aside, I'd rather have a K based on all the factors that are part of the cause of the HG failures ::)
as a note, the worst consumption in city and in -5 Celcius , clit averaged 36 mpg. (with racer boy driving style)
best was above 44-45 mpg in city..(summer)
Was that a diesel? :o
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here you go...
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Looks good Marie.....I don't normally like white.....but I think it suits your Rover. :y :y :y
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Thanks i dont normally like white ether but you cant argue for a free car. well its only going to cost me a service, cambelt change and put it through an mot at the end of the month. :)
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I had a Honda engined 216 (non cat) in early 90s. Good engine if you revved the gonads off it. Pretty uneconomical, I used to average 25mpg, best I ever got was 37mpg on a run to North Wales once. Reliable engine with the exception of the ignitor unit, guaranteed to fail as often as a GM V6 crank sensor!
K series 1.6 in the 25, obviously with a cat. I reckon the Honda had slightly more performance, though the K you don't have to rag so had (though still need to rev it to get the best from it). And, oh boy, is the economy of the K better!
HG issues aside, I'd rather have a K based on all the factors that are part of the cause of the HG failures ::)
as a note, the worst consumption in city and in -5 Celcius , clit averaged 36 mpg. (with racer boy driving style)
best was above 44-45 mpg in city..(summer)
Was that a diesel? :o
nope, normal .. ;D this clit is really economical..
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White.. I like it as its really easy to keep clean.. :y
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Looks nice and clean Marie, if only my mig was that clean :-[.
Looks to be in VGC too! :y
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White.. I like it as its really easy to keep clean.. :y
Agree, I had a white vectra, and I thought it was going to be a pain. Tbh, it was easier in someways than the omega, as you could give it a quick once over, and it would look fine... however do that with the omega, and its covered in water marks, and looks crap! :-[
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I had a Honda engined 216 (non cat) in early 90s. Good engine if you revved the gonads off it. Pretty uneconomical, I used to average 25mpg, best I ever got was 37mpg on a run to North Wales once. Reliable engine with the exception of the ignitor unit, guaranteed to fail as often as a GM V6 crank sensor!
K series 1.6 in the 25, obviously with a cat. I reckon the Honda had slightly more performance, though the K you don't have to rag so had (though still need to rev it to get the best from it). And, oh boy, is the economy of the K better!
HG issues aside, I'd rather have a K based on all the factors that are part of the cause of the HG failures ::)
as a note, the worst consumption in city and in -5 Celcius , clit averaged 36 mpg. (with racer boy driving style)
best was above 44-45 mpg in city..(summer)
Was that a diesel? :o
nope, normal .. ;D this clit is really economical..
Yeah? Thats not bad at all! :o
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Marie - I bet the CD Changer (if fitted) doesn't play CD reliably any more ;D
Saying that, it probably hasn't got one, from the interior shots, it looks like it may be one of the 'value' type models :( - but as a freebie :)
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White.. I like it as its really easy to keep clean.. :y
Agree, I had a white vectra, and I thought it was going to be a pain. Tbh, it was easier in someways than the omega, as you could give it a quick once over, and it would look fine... however do that with the omega, and its covered in water marks, and looks crap! :-[
agreed..when its dirty really looks crap..
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its got a tape deck in it at the mo.... soon to have a cd player put in it when i can be bothered to go out and do it. lol
its been semi looked after needed the wash today washed it 3 times to get the moss off it. i am well chuffed with it. just got a few ofther bits to sort out then ill be happy. :)
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its got a tape deck in it at the mo.... soon to have a cd player put in it when i can be bothered to go out and do it. lol
its been semi looked after needed the wash today washed it 3 times to get the moss off it. i am well chuffed with it. just got a few ofther bits to sort out then ill be happy. :)
The R770 stereo? Think thats what most 200s had. Can fit a 6 disc changer to it.
Not many radios work with the (probably faulty?) clock/display. Radio fitted quite low, not easy to see display on radio if you go aftermarket.
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Looks like quite a tidy wee puddle jumper... Good luck on getting it back to scratch. The wash and brush up thus far seems to bode well!! :y
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it seems to work ok, the org stero and clock display shows the radio station when in use.
its the one thing i actually have receipts for. not the important.
what are grandads like file the niff naff and trivia but ditch the important paperwork! >:(
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Looks like quite a tidy wee puddle jumper... Good luck on getting it back to scratch. The wash and brush up thus far seems to bode well!! :y
cheers
am i right in thinking that uipart do rover parts ? been looking on ebay at the mo not some bad prices but not to sure whether to use non genuine what do you think? plan to put vx 10w40 in her and vx anti freeze.
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Unipart are the Rover group parts trading name, bit like AC Delco and Vauxhall...
The VX oil and Antifreeze will probably be an upgrade on what its been used to previously! ;D
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That's what i was thinking.
arh right so i cant really go wrong with uniparts then!
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I use Vx oil and coolant in ours, filters and other service stuff from unipart
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wicked cheers tb
just need to get myself a haynes manual. :)
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That's what i was thinking.
arh right so i cant really go wrong with uniparts then!
I think the "official" parts are X-part these days?
BTW - there was another Mig on Broadsword Park on New Years Eve (mine) - I was picking up a chassis from my mate who lives on there. Whilst we're on the subject of Rovers, I nearly took out the side of a MG ZT with the trailer I was towing whilst trying to navigate your estate..
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its not the easiest estate to drive round. i wasnt here new years eve (shame) you would have seen the car (and OOF sticker) otherwise. could have made you a brew :)
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Lol.....The Gm parts division was Delphi.....now sold off as they had the most crippling Pension and wage liability of the whole group!
You can get most parts still for the Rovers.....forget about anything plastic though as the moulds are long gone and nobody will re-make given the high tooling costs (and hence why even a small prang writes them off)
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best drive carefully in her then. or ill be hunting the scrapys for bits.
pmsl.
ta mark.
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i had a 416 sli for 3 yrs, did about 40000 in it and nothing ever went wrong. only thing was in the 3 yrs i had to have the head gasket done after a yr, it went again 2 yrs later so i scrapped it. i let the bloke up the rd have a lot of parts. apart from that, very reliable and pretty nippy too, ive always liked rovers, was gonna get a bigun when i got rid of that, but glad i got the mig at last :y :y
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i have heard that the HG go often on these. it worries me but then it dont.
i know people who can help my competant hands fix it cheeper and better then a garage.