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Title: Sickening.
Post by: amigov6 on 07 January 2009, 19:18:50
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article5467579.ece?token=null&offset=12&page=2
 
  I hope the gutless cowards responsible for this are pleased with themselves. I hope they get caught. >:( :( :o
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Post by: Andy B on 07 January 2009, 19:22:50
B4$tards! >:(
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Post by: stuart30 on 07 January 2009, 19:27:11
No doubt more too it than whats been reported...but indeed a horrendous thing too happen.

Feel for the parents.
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Post by: STMO123 on 07 January 2009, 19:27:15
Why hasn't this had national coverage? They put a rather dog who's had 18 pups on and this is not. I wont harp on about wanting the public hangmans job again, but I would gladly burn these bastards alive.
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Post by: Omega man 2 on 07 January 2009, 19:36:23
String them up by the b*llocks and burn them at the stake >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Post by: MindlessJD on 07 January 2009, 19:39:54
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Why hasn't this had national coverage? They put a rather dog who's had 18 pups on and this is not. I wont harp on about wanting the public hangmans job again, but I would gladly burn these bastards alive.

I'll be there to help you light them. This disgusts me.  :(
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Post by: jimbobmccoy on 07 January 2009, 19:47:40
death would be to good for the scum who did this.  I think a lifetime of pain and suffering, while being kept alive through medical intervention, only to endure more pain, is the only thing they deserve.

if anyone thinks that's too strong, think of the suffering and fear that poor child must have gone through, both as it happened, and in the past three weeks, then ask yourself if its still too much.

(having a 4 year old and 8 month old, both girls, brings home the horror of this to me.)
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Post by: amigov6 on 07 January 2009, 20:00:20
Put's a lump in the biggest mans throat, me included. If i could get away with it i'd happily torture them slowly in the workshop with compressor & music to mask the screams.
    I'll say no more but this really shook me, Dad with a busted ankle begging her to jump but she felt safer hiding under her bed covers?

  Can't imagine how her parents are feeling. :'(
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Post by: jimbobmccoy on 07 January 2009, 20:06:17
saw her mum on the news tonight, and i think the grief and distraught was visible.  whoever did this can't have been a parent, or if they were, it only strengthens the case for selective and enforced sterilisation, as they clearly had no regard for anyone, especially a child, who even among the criminal world are normally excluded from things.
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Post by: kris9128 on 07 January 2009, 20:14:05
saw this on the news at tea time. sickened me. how can you just walk up to a front door, pour petrol through letter box, light it and walk away. who ever did this obviously has no regards for human life. i'ved had many enemies over the years but could never do something like this. it's f*cking disgusting. justhope those responsible are caught soon and have the book thrown at them. idiots
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Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 January 2009, 20:23:49
Seem like decent people - some one definately got upset by them  >:( :( :'((some scum who don't like people who try to help) - but what they did is unexcusable - they will get their comuppance in jail.

They better not get a slap on the wrist >:(

Very scarey but at least it sounds like they have the murderers.

Still don't understand how people can do it. :(

I am mainly gobsmacked at what happened
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Post by: zippo on 07 January 2009, 20:26:22
reading that has brought a tear to my eye , what ever happens to the culprits i hope its a long drawn out painful ordeal .
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Post by: SP_3.2 on 07 January 2009, 20:28:18
Give me  a locked dark room with them an 60 seconds X amount will be going in BUT only one will be coming out of the room. >:( >:( >:(
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Post by: Richie London on 07 January 2009, 20:29:20
the only punishment they will get is if someone attacks them in prison. apart from that they will be nice and comfortable with human rights looking after them while they serve there sentance.  >:(
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Post by: zippo on 07 January 2009, 20:32:05
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the only punishment they will get is if someone attacks them in prison. apart from that they will be nice and comfortable with human rights looking after them while they serve there sentance.  >:(

aint that the sad truth, makes me cry
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Post by: Chopsdad on 07 January 2009, 20:33:46
My nearly 3 year old is tucked up in bed.  The horror the little girl must have gone through is too much to think about. :'(
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Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 January 2009, 20:35:28
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the only punishment they will get is if someone attacks them in prison. apart from that they will be nice and comfortable with human rights looking after them while they serve there sentance.  >:(


They will be attacked - no way round it unless they stay in solitary.

I reckon they were habitual criminals who were caught by the dad or something similar.

I really hope something very painfull happens to them
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Post by: Richie London on 07 January 2009, 20:39:20
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the only punishment they will get is if someone attacks them in prison. apart from that they will be nice and comfortable with human rights looking after them while they serve there sentance.  >:(


They will be attacked - no way round it unless they stay in solitary.

I reckon they were habitual criminals who were caught by the dad or something similar.

I really hope something very painfull happens to them

in time m8, every oppurtunity they all get attacked, never forgotton
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Post by: zippo on 07 January 2009, 20:40:08
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the only punishment they will get is if someone attacks them in prison. apart from that they will be nice and comfortable with human rights looking after them while they serve there sentance.  >:(


They will be attacked - no way round it unless they stay in solitary.

I reckon they were habitual criminals who were caught by the dad or something similar.

I really hope something very painfull happens to them

God willing
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Post by: Omega man 2 on 07 January 2009, 20:41:14
If there's a hell they're going there to be poked up the arse with sharp firery sticks for ever and ever amen.
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Post by: zippo on 07 January 2009, 20:43:37
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If there's a hell they're going there to be poked up the arse with sharp firery sticks for ever and ever amen.
nicely put  :y :y
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Post by: jimbobmccoy on 07 January 2009, 20:46:38
i used to live on a first floor flat , i had my bike chained to the balcony, and one night heard some noise, stuck my head out the door and someone was trying to pinch it.

they saw me and came at me so i lumped em one and they legged it.

month later an almost identical thing happened to this, and its only that i was up cos my oldest (only one at the time) had been up with chicken pox that i heard the letterbox go at 1 in the morning and put the fire out before it got started.

two weeks after that i was walking the dog and a car pulled up, the same guy got out and i got a knife in the stomach.

between my wife and i we knew most kids in the area, as we both did youth work at the time, and he weren't local, so probably didn't know bout our kid, but he was still preparred to set fire to the only way out of our flat cos i'd stopped him nicking a £200 bike.

the shock at the time, and the fact it was only a bit of carpet that got damaged meant i didn't hit home too much, but seeing this stirs up feelings of hatred that makes me sick at todays supposed legal system.

how can anyone argue they have human rights after they denied that girl the right to live is beyond me.

(as a side note we moved shortly after and have had no problems since, however the registration number of the car and some family in places to make use of that meant i got the opportunity the parents of this case should be given.)
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Post by: amigov6 on 07 January 2009, 20:54:36
Sympathies mate. I was born in Croydon so am familiar with many parts of London. £200 bike/childs life???? Seems people have completely lost perspective.
    
   & We're a civilised country? ::)
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Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 January 2009, 20:56:08
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i used to live on a first floor flat , i had my bike chained to the balcony, and one night heard some noise, stuck my head out the door and someone was trying to pinch it.

they saw me and came at me so i lumped em one and they legged it.

month later an almost identical thing happened to this, and its only that i was up cos my oldest (only one at the time) had been up with chicken pox that i heard the letterbox go at 1 in the morning and put the fire out before it got started.

two weeks after that i was walking the dog and a car pulled up, the same guy got out and i got a knife in the stomach.

between my wife and i we knew most kids in the area, as we both did youth work at the time, and he weren't local, so probably didn't know bout our kid, but he was still preparred to set fire to the only way out of our flat cos i'd stopped him nicking a £200 bike.

the shock at the time, and the fact it was only a bit of carpet that got damaged meant i didn't hit home too much, but seeing this stirs up feelings of hatred that makes me sick at todays supposed legal system.

how can anyone argue they have human rights after they denied that girl the right to live is beyond me.

(as a side note we moved shortly after and have had no problems since, however the registration number of the car and some family in places to make use of that meant i got the opportunity the parents of this case should be given.)


I really hope you hurt him badly, I see no problems with killing people like that is self defense
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Post by: jimbobmccoy on 07 January 2009, 21:04:16
i helped him understand my frustrations. :-X

what people wont realise about this is the full effect it has on a family.

i count myself lucky after hearing about this, yet it still had a major impact for a year or so on the relationship with the mrs.

in this situation people always look for someone to blame, and if they let it then it will cause a family to break apart, which just compounds the loss of their child.

i doubt the guy in my case or the perps in this, even think past the act themselves, as they're too selfish.  

Funny tho how when people realise they may be in a bit of bother themselves, they use all the same arguements you used as reasons for them to have not done what they did in order to try and save their own skin.  thankfully you tend to be numbed to pleas when you just think of the damage they caused.
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Post by: jimbobmccoy on 07 January 2009, 21:06:52
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Sympathies mate. I was born in Croydon so am familiar with many parts of London. £200 bike/childs life???? Seems people have completely lost perspective.
    
   & We're a civilised country? ::)

i think to a lot of youngsters in london, having the latest trainers/phone/fashion is more important than a childs life.  Civilised?  i think we're turning in to a third world country, and display the civility and barbarity of cave men at times.
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Post by: STMO123 on 07 January 2009, 21:08:51
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If there's a hell they're going there to be poked up the arse with sharp firery sticks for ever and ever amen.

OOOER
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Post by: zippo on 07 January 2009, 21:08:58
what annoys me is the pond life think they have the right to steal what they like ,do what they like with immunity ,and that decent people should just let them do as they want but when the tables are turned and folk fight back that's all wrong and it the decent folk who end up be penalized
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Post by: jimbobmccoy on 07 January 2009, 21:15:58
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what annoys me is the pond life think they have the right to steal what they like ,do what they like with immunity ,and that decent people should just let them do as they want but when the tables are turned and folk fight back that's all wrong and it the decent folk who end up be penalized

well they have got rights ya know!!!!!
who are we to stop them nicking off us, and how dare we suggest prison should be hard and unpleasant.

whats that no tv i here you cry, but thats against their human rights!
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Post by: zippo on 07 January 2009, 21:21:23
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what annoys me is the pond life think they have the right to steal what they like ,do what they like with immunity ,and that decent people should just let them do as they want but when the tables are turned and folk fight back that's all wrong and it the decent folk who end up be penalized

well they have got rights ya know!!!!!
who are we to stop them nicking off us, and how dare we suggest prison should be hard and unpleasant.

whats that no tv i here you cry, but thats against their human rights!

i was talking to an old fashioned Bobbie over Christmas ,he has another 5 months until he retires and he cant wait ,his parting words were how can we do our job when our hands are tied and the main deterrent is like a holiday camp.......
   i think that sums it up very well
Title: Re: Sickening.
Post by: MindlessJD on 08 January 2009, 00:19:35
I agree with what all of you are saying. It saddens me to see what is becoming of people and the country these days.

My friends and I are only 15 and 16 years old, but we talk about how we don't want to go to certain places and don't want to go out at night in case we get attacked etc.

Not good.  :'(
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Post by: stuart30 on 08 January 2009, 00:28:53
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I agree with what all of you are saying. It saddens me to see what is becoming of people and the country these days.

My friends and I are only 15 and 16 years old, but we talk about how we don't want to go to certain places and don't want to go out at night in case we get attacked etc.

Not good.  :'(


Dare i ask how old you are.... :o
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Post by: MindlessJD on 08 January 2009, 00:31:29
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I agree with what all of you are saying. It saddens me to see what is becoming of people and the country these days.

My friends and I are only 15 and 16 years old, but we talk about how we don't want to go to certain places and don't want to go out at night in case we get attacked etc.

Not good.  :'(


Dare i ask how old you are.... :o

I'm 16.
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Post by: stuart30 on 08 January 2009, 00:34:45
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I agree with what all of you are saying. It saddens me to see what is becoming of people and the country these days.

My friends and I are only 15 and 16 years old, but we talk about how we don't want to go to certain places and don't want to go out at night in case we get attacked etc.

Not good.  :'(


Dare i ask how old you are.... :o

I'm 16.

Thats ok then....
 ;D
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Post by: MindlessJD on 08 January 2009, 00:35:32
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I agree with what all of you are saying. It saddens me to see what is becoming of people and the country these days.

My friends and I are only 15 and 16 years old, but we talk about how we don't want to go to certain places and don't want to go out at night in case we get attacked etc.

Not good.  :'(


Dare i ask how old you are.... :o

I'm 16.

Thats ok then....
 ;D

Aye  :y
Title: Re: Sickening.
Post by: omegod on 08 January 2009, 11:12:43
Believe me the scum responsible will not enjoy their time in the holiday camp, anyone from this City would not see them relax for doing this.

The lad who shot Rhys Jones has just been given his first slapping in prison and long may it continue!  
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Post by: Richie London on 08 January 2009, 11:50:27
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I agree with what all of you are saying. It saddens me to see what is becoming of people and the country these days.

My friends and I are only 15 and 16 years old, but we talk about how we don't want to go to certain places and don't want to go out at night in case we get attacked etc.

Not good.  :'(

my boys are 15 and 12, they feel the same as you m8. i worry like break if they have to get the bus over here when i cant collect them. they have to go through somalia city(hayes) and its not good. women attacked, 14 yr old girl raped, kids attacked and so on. eldest was attacked  twice, 2nd time i found the bloke, not a kid either. has to be punishment or nothing at all in my opinion
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Post by: MindlessJD on 08 January 2009, 12:32:36
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I agree with what all of you are saying. It saddens me to see what is becoming of people and the country these days.

My friends and I are only 15 and 16 years old, but we talk about how we don't want to go to certain places and don't want to go out at night in case we get attacked etc.

Not good.  :'(

my boys are 15 and 12, they feel the same as you m8. i worry like break if they have to get the bus over here when i cant collect them. they have to go through somalia city(hayes) and its not good. women attacked, 14 yr old girl raped, kids attacked and so on. eldest was attacked  twice, 2nd time i found the bloke, not a kid either. has to be punishment or nothing at all in my opinion

Don't blame them. Have to agree with the topic title again; these events are just sickening.  >:(