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Title: what happened
Post by: nick v6 on 12 January 2009, 20:00:10
what happened to the forum???
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: Martin_1962 on 12 January 2009, 20:03:33
still here
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: hotel21 on 12 January 2009, 20:04:36
TB's hamster went on strike for a wee while.....   ;)
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: CaptainZok on 12 January 2009, 20:05:21
Mrs TB doing her hair again.
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: kris9128 on 12 January 2009, 20:06:23
reckon he was havin a sneeky look at facebook  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: TheBoy on 12 January 2009, 20:28:59
bugger, I had a quick look when it was fixed, and nobody was complaining, so thought we may have got away with that one...


As part of my therapy, I am will do my best not to get angry, though I'm sure Jimbob will repeat what my views are.....
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: Jimbob on 12 January 2009, 20:33:56
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bugger, I had a quick look when it was fixed, and nobody was complaining, so thought we may have got away with that one...


As part of my therapy, I am will do my best not to get angry, though I'm sure Jimbob will repeat what my views are.....

couldnt possibly say that you said
[size=9]"Not sure I’ve ever mentioned this....  ...but I rather hate Linux. Its shite. Crap. Useless. Pointless. Crap, and shite. Oh and crap. I rather hate it.  And did you know its rather crap."[/size]

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"I rather detest it. Its utter shite. And crap.

 

Its resource management is so piss poor all you can do is keep throwing more resources at it to reduce the frequency of the inevitable crashes.  Its crap. I rather hate it.

 

If only someone did a useable perl for windows, we’d be running off windows.  (I’d try Solaris, but that can be a bit suspect as a VM on non SPARC hardware.

 

And, yes, I rather hate it"
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Far too much swearing for me!

 
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: TheBoy on 12 January 2009, 20:37:25
And in case nobody quite understood that, I rather hate Linux.

Look what it does to my nice disks...

(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/computing/LinuxSucks.GIF)

You can see when it decided that had had enough, and when I had to kill its power (Maintenence Mode after was because it had, unsurprisingly, made a mess of its disks)
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: feeutfo on 12 January 2009, 20:52:36
its me, sorry, only ever crashes when i am on line.just getting to the end of a fairly long post, press the post button and... Nothing. Cant go back, cant go to another page, have to close the browser(n95 8g) and try again having previously copied the text and then log in, cant. Log in again, cant.

Just about to put yellow dog 6 on ps3s new bigger hard drive, when i get a key board to operate it. That should cheer TB up. :-)
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: dbug on 12 January 2009, 21:11:19
Jaime - look at my avatar!!
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: TheBoy on 12 January 2009, 21:14:46
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Jaime - look at my avatar!!
Don't knock it? I'd wipe it from the face of the earth  >:(
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: Welung666 on 12 January 2009, 21:14:51
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Jaime - look at my avatar!!

"Don't knock Linux" just unplug it  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: TheBoy on 12 January 2009, 21:16:19
Linux...  ...what a waste of good electricity  >:(
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: Welung666 on 12 January 2009, 21:18:16
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Linux...  ...what a waste of good electricity  >:(

Are we writing their next commercial?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: TheBoy on 12 January 2009, 21:19:49
I promised myself I wouldn't get on a gay Linux rant....   ....
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: Debs. on 12 January 2009, 21:21:47
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I promised myself I wouldn't get on a gay Linux rant....   ....

Go-on, go-on, go-on!......you know you want to! ;D
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: TheBoy on 12 January 2009, 21:23:46
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I promised myself I wouldn't get on a gay Linux rant....   ....

Go-on, go-on, go-on!......you know you want to! ;D
I do, trust me I really do.

But the word censor would probably swallow all of the servers resources, and the rather heap of crap would crash again
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: dbug on 12 January 2009, 23:37:43
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I promised myself I wouldn't get on a gay Linux rant....   ....

Go-on, go-on, go-on!......you know you want to! ;D
I do, trust me I really do.

But the word censor would probably swallow all of the servers resources, and the rather heap of crap would crash again

Oh dear :o
Title: Re: what happened
Post by: TheBoy on 13 January 2009, 19:14:14
Keep tweaking the kernal parameters a bit to see if it helps, but it seems you can't give it a true 'do this when memory runs low'

OOF needs a fairly modest 100Mb RAM approx, sometimes less, sometimes a bit more.  Linux, like most OSes, does the decent thing and uses the remaining RAM for buffers and disk caching. Great :y

Until it runs low on memory available memory (not used by app or by caching).  Here, every other OS in the world releases a bit of caching memory to make RAM available. Sensible choice.  Linux, by default, starts SWAPPING (ie, using the disk as extention to RAM), which obviously causes disk utilisation to go up, and app to slow down. Then, more web requests come in, and as old requests not yet dealt with (as system is paging heavily), more memory is needed, but not available, so yet more swapping, and the thing grinds itself towards a crash, as ultimately it runs out of swap as well.  Whatever idiot came up with that strategy - yes, thats you Linus - should be strung up.

It doesn't matter how much memory is present, with this strategy, the server will consume it all, then consume all swap, then crash.  Extra memory just delays the inevitable.

At least in the later kernels, there are a couple of tweaks.