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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Turk on 19 January 2009, 21:39:42
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http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/article.aspx?cp-documentid=12978914
They get "up to" 9 yrs...she gets life !!! :o
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with this kind of so called justice no wonder there are vigilantes out there willing to take revenge, This country is well and truely screwed up, if this had been the middle east their heads would no longer be attached.
ill refrain from expressing my true anger, but id like to rip off thier heads and pi$$ on their dead skulls.
admin: feel free to remove this comment but this is how I feel, as im sure do others. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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sick bas###ds. hope they get raped in prison
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Not all Judges are daft ... I work in the courts and they are sometimes amazed at what their "brother judges" do ... but also .. their hands are very much tied by the "Sentencing Guideline Council" ... a QUANGO set up by this illustrious government ( >:( >:( >:( >:( ) that limits what sentences they are allowed to give.
http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/
Also, the article does not state if this was a full trial (not guilty plea) or a sentencing hearing following a Guilty plea .. if it was the latter then the sentence is automatically reduced by 1/3 .. due to above guidelines ... so the Judge MAY have actually opted for 14 years .......
http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/docs/Reduction%20in%20Sentence-final.pdf
from that article it is not possible to tell ,...
The SGC "book" on Sexual Offences ...
http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/docs/0000_SexualOffencesAct1.pdf
Note that the "baseline for Rape is 5 years" ... :(
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even 18 years wouldnt have been enough, they have basically killed her, leaving her a prisoner in her own deformed body. pass the bucket i wanna puke.....
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I`d love to get at them and pour caustic soda over their privates and then watch as they beg for help knowing that i wouod just walk away and turn the light s off and lock the door behind me....... >:( >:( >:(
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IIRC in the papers they are called the "cuastic soda - gang or crew or posse!"
Should be tied to the back of my car,dragged around the streets till they are red raw, then put in a bath of salt till they scream loudly then i would drown them!
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The lads who did it should also be given a visual reminder every time they look in the mirror of what they did. If I was the girls Dad I'd do everything in my power to make it happen, as I'm sure most other Dads would too. >:( >:( >:(
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The lads who did it should also be given a visual reminder every time they look in the mirror of what they did. If I was the girls Dad I'd do everything in my power to make it happen, as I'm sure most other Dads would too. >:( >:( >:(
agreed wholeheartedly
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Barbarric!
Lost for words i am absolutely terrible especially considerring the poor girl had learning difficulties
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Totally agree!!!!!Imagine how you'd feel if it was one of your kids who'd suffered like that. The whole thing makes me sick, from the
f*cking sick bastards that did it, the f*cking sick judge who should lose his job, to the f*cking sick community who "closed ranks" on the investigation. I know you never get the full story in these news reports but how is this kind of sentencing going to help anyone. I'm a firm believer that disciplinary action should be corrective not punitive,
but I also believe that some people are just born evil, in which case get rid!!!These rapists knew what they were doing but I suppose the t*sser of a judge bore in mind their deprived upbringing or some similar pc mitigating factor. Lets not be naive here, attrocities like this have always happened in war when the lines of "acceptable , civilized"
behaviour vanish and human beings get used to that enviroment because it becomes the norm, its a major part of the human "adapt to survive" thing. But this didnt happen in a war zone, it happened in a so called civilized city and if there are no excuses for war crimes, there are certainly no excuses for these actions here.Let the punishment match the crime! My thoughts go out to the poor girl and her family,
jerry :( >:(
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Sorry but i disagree....
How would the judge giving them life of helped...all that happens is they loose there freedom,hardly befitting the crime is it.
The problem is us...we vote these namby pamby pencil pushing weak willed governments into power so we as a voting nation are partly too blame.
Maybe one day as a voting public we will collectively grow some balls and actually vote in a government who isnt scared too take a hard line...actually no thats wrong because as soon as a party sways from the middle we hound and publish voters details on the Internet and mock them for having different views.
Bottom line is until we elect a government who is willing too stick two fingers up at Political correctness and has the guts too deal with criminals in a fitting way we will always be reading stories such as the one posted and saying how terrible it is the offenders getting such short easy sentences.
Id happily vote for a party who took a hard line....an eye for an eye attitude.
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Totally agree!!!!!Imagine how you'd feel if it was one of your kids who'd suffered like that. The whole thing makes me sick, from the
f*cking sick bastards that did it, the f*cking sick judge who should lose his job, to the f*cking sick community who "closed ranks" on the investigation. I know you never get the full story in these news reports but how is this kind of sentencing going to help anyone. I'm a firm believer that disciplinary action should be corrective not punitive,
but I also believe that some people are just born evil, in which case get rid!!!These rapists knew what they were doing but I suppose the t*sser of a judge bore in mind their deprived upbringing or some similar pc mitigating factor. Lets not be naive here, attrocities like this have always happened in war when the lines of "acceptable , civilized"
behaviour vanish and human beings get used to that enviroment because it becomes the norm, its a major part of the human "adapt to survive" thing. But this didnt happen in a war zone, it happened in a so called civilized city and if there are no excuses for war crimes, there are certainly no excuses for these actions here.Let the punishment match the crime! My thoughts go out to the poor girl and her family,
jerry :( >:(
To be honest i find the comment 'lack of Cooperation by the Commuity' worse than the poor sentancing. >:(
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Sorry but i disagree....
How would the judge giving them life of helped...all that happens is they loose there freedom,hardly befitting the crime is it.
The problem is us...we vote these namby pamby pencil pushing weak willed governments into power so we as a voting nation are partly too blame.
Maybe one day as a voting public we will collectively grow some balls and actually vote in a government who isnt scared too take a hard line...actually no thats wrong because as soon as a party sways from the middle we hound and publish voters details on the Internet and mock them for having different views.
Bottom line is until we elect a government who is willing too stick two fingers up at Political correctness and has the guts too deal with criminals in a fitting way we will always be reading stories such as the one posted and saying how terrible it is the offenders getting such short easy sentences.
Id happily vote for a party who took a hard line....an eye for an eye attitude.
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i would give them my vote aswell but its the same story , what they promise to do when they get in power and what they actually do are worlds apart
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Sorry but i disagree....
How would the judge giving them life of helped...all that happens is they loose there freedom,hardly befitting the crime is it.
The problem is us...we vote these namby pamby pencil pushing weak willed governments into power so we as a voting nation are partly too blame.
Maybe one day as a voting public we will collectively grow some balls and actually vote in a government who isnt scared too take a hard line...actually no thats wrong because as soon as a party sways from the middle we hound and publish voters details on the Internet and mock them for having different views.
Bottom line is until we elect a government who is willing too stick two fingers up at Political correctness and has the guts too deal with criminals in a fitting way we will always be reading stories such as the one posted and saying how terrible it is the offenders getting such short easy sentences.
Id happily vote for a party who took a hard line....an eye for an eye attitude.
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i would give them my vote aswell but its the same story , what they promise to do when they get in power and what they actually do are worlds apart
Sadly true....but just think what this country could be like.... :o
People might just think twice if we introduced a few laws that actually punished people for doing wrong....prison isnt a detreant.
Drugs...Tv...all the bum fun you can handle...better food than my mrs cooks. :-?
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Get rid doesnt necessarily mean life imprissonment!!
One of the criminal justice systems biggest headaches is just how many people we put in jail and how much we spend on keeping them there. Surely you only want to imprison those who are a genuine threat to society, this doesnt necessarily mean a physical threat as some fraudsters, eg, cause untold financial misery to many (and I'm not talking about the government or the banks before someone says it!). But there are far too many who, if the punishment more properly fitted the crime, could repay their "debt" to society by working FOR the society. As for capital punishment, for some crimes, yes-------but with all the recent advances in forensics can we still really be sure 100% of guilt? Or maybe we should just reintroduce penal colonies !!
Seriously though, the more you think about it , the more complex it gets and there really arent any easy answers. All I know is that this country is not getting it right and hasnt been for a long time and itd be nice if one day someone in government actually realized what most of us feel and had the balls to do something about it, regardless of how big a change this meant. All too often the victims are left just that.
jerry
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They will die on release - someone will find them and kill them
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sick bas###ds. hope they get raped in prison
agreed.. and I wish they get raped and some people pour acid on them >:( >:( >:(
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Death long slow and as painfull as could be. I'm not going to say any more than that.
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Perhaps the sentences may be increased ??
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090120/tuk-gang-rape-sentences-to-be-reviewed-6323e80.html
Hope so ....
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the case is being reviewed by the attorney general
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7840339.stm
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What were the judges thinking giving this lenient sentence, were they not as apalled as the rest of us are at diabolical treatment of this poor innocent girl who will probably never recover from the terrible ordeal these heartless b**stds put her through. I believe everybody gets whats coming to them. I sincerely hope they get what they rightly deseve.