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Title: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: Jay w on 29 January 2009, 22:11:21
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7858484.stm

What total and utter 'dangle berries'

James is now 19, and whist he drinks he has a responsible attutude to drink, i believe this is due to us allowing him to drink in the house from 14

he's not perfect, but at least he doesn't stand on the street corner getting smashed. he has never done this, he feels he has never had the need to do so.

When Mia gets to that age we will do the same with her.

i know not everyone agrees with this view, but it worked for me
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: STMO123 on 29 January 2009, 22:17:35
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7858484.stm

What total and utter 'dangle berries'

James is now 19, and whist he drinks he has a responsible attutude to drink, i believe this is due to us allowing him to drink in the house from 14

he's not perfect, but at least he doesn't stand on the street corner getting smashed. he has never done this, he feels he has never had the need to do so.

When Mia gets to that age we will do the same with her.

i know not everyone agrees with this view, but it worked for me

Course not. He gets smashed at home. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: Omega man 2 on 29 January 2009, 22:18:46
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7858484.stm

What total and utter 'dangle berries'

James is now 19, and whist he drinks he has a responsible attutude to drink, i believe this is due to us allowing him to drink in the house from 14

he's not perfect, but at least he doesn't stand on the street corner getting smashed. he has never done this, he feels he has never had the need to do so.

When Mia gets to that age we will do the same with her.

i know not everyone agrees with this view, but it worked for me

Course not. He gets smashed at home. ;D ;D ;D

Much easier, saves getting a taxi also :y
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: mantagte on 29 January 2009, 22:20:36
England's chief medical officer can go and get f@@ked
my eldest now 17 and in the army drank from an early age (12-13)
and has never been a problem
now he is a pain in the arse but miles from home  :)
my youngest 8 had her first taste of wine at christmas but she did not like it (too young i suppose)
any body can drink a little without any problems
i started when i was 11 im still here and doing fine :)
and besides England's chief medical officer aint god
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: hotel21 on 29 January 2009, 22:22:05
Fair play here....  Our booze cupboard was never out of bounds to the kids when growing up.  If they wanted to try a drink (from a responsible 'teen' age) then fair enough.  Better to try under supervision than be sneaky/steal and experiment out and about , in our opinion...   :-?
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: CaptainZok on 29 January 2009, 22:26:51
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Fair play here....  Our booze cupboard was never out of bounds to the kids when growing up.  If they wanted to try a drink (from a responsible 'teen' age) then fair enough.  Better to try under supervision than be sneaky/steal and experiment out and about , in our opinion...   :-?
Works for me, I'd rather the lads have the occasional tipple in the house with us than in a back street with a bunch of chavs causing trouble.
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: zippo on 29 January 2009, 22:43:36
when i see the drunken kids walk past my house I'm glad my Dad taught me to respect the beer ,his favorite saying is "any one can drink 10 pints .. its how you act afterwards that counts "
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: Jay w on 29 January 2009, 22:55:51
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when i see the drunken kids walk past my house I'm glad my Dad taught me to respect the beer ,his favorite saying is "any one can drink 10 pints .. its how you act afterwards that counts "
:y  yep, agree 100%

Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: doog on 29 January 2009, 23:06:52
well i used to get totaly guttered  and crawl home as a teenager I got into some funny situations but never into trouble. good times (except the hang over and trying to hide if from my mum)

Doug
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: Vamps on 29 January 2009, 23:09:24
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Fair play here....  Our booze cupboard was never out of bounds to the kids when growing up.  If they wanted to try a drink (from a responsible 'teen' age) then fair enough.  Better to try under supervision than be sneaky/steal and experiment out and about , in our opinion...   :-?
Works for me, I'd rather the lads have the occasional tipple in the house with us than in a back street with a bunch of chavs causing trouble.

I agree, my daughter enjoyed the odd glass of 'bucks fizz' at Christmas, she is only 8,  I also thinks this helps take away the mystery of 'drink' so they are not, at 18 suddenly finding out for themselves.  :)

Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: hotel21 on 29 January 2009, 23:24:10
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Fair play here....  Our booze cupboard was never out of bounds to the kids when growing up.  If they wanted to try a drink (from a responsible 'teen' age) then fair enough.  Better to try under supervision than be sneaky/steal and experiment out and about , in our opinion...   :-?
Works for me, I'd rather the lads have the occasional tipple in the house with us than in a back street with a bunch of chavs causing trouble.

I agree, my daughter enjoyed the odd glass of 'bucks fizz' at Christmas, she is only 8,  I also thinks this helps take away the mystery of 'drink' so they are not, at 18 suddenly finding out for themselves.  :)

in a nutshell....   ;)
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: Entwood on 29 January 2009, 23:28:32
Why is it that in every other country on the continent, children drink (in moderation and usually diluted) with their meals along with their families, and you don't see a "lets go out and get hammered" culture in their kids ... they, mostly, drink very sensibly.

We try and ban everything, and just make the problem worse... prat Brown and his "nanny state" culture .... what ever happened to parents actually teaching their children how to behave ??? and educating them in social skills ??

Prat Brown knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing, and that culture is now endemic, especially amongst the young ... :(
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 January 2009, 23:30:51
Because we have a control freak government who want us to be allowed to do a few certain things rather than be banned from a few.

Used to ask "Is it illegal?"

Now "Is it legal?"

knobheads >:(
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: hotel21 on 29 January 2009, 23:33:22
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Why is it that in every other country on the continent, children drink (in moderation and usually diluted) with their meals along with their families, and you don't see a "lets go out and get hammered" culture in their kids ... they, mostly, drink very sensibly.

We try and ban everything, and just make the problem worse... prat Brown and his "nanny state" culture .... what ever happened to parents actually teaching their children how to behave ??? and educating them in social skills ??

Prat Brown knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing, and that culture is now endemic, especially amongst the young ... :(

Not wanting to steer the good ship 'Blame Brown' off its course, but its nothing that has not been done by other Governments and leaders in times gone by.  

It all begins at home, you know....   Don't rely on 'Nanny'.....   :D  
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: CaptainZok on 29 January 2009, 23:34:11
Yup that's the way now, don't preach control or moderation just ban whatever it is the press are up in arms about. As we all know a ban will make it go away, like prohibition did for the yanks.
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: Vamps on 29 January 2009, 23:36:35
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Yup that's the way now, don't preach control or moderation just ban whatever it is the press are up in arms about. As we all know a ban will make it go away, like prohibition did for the yanks.

Not that I have done much that I shoud not have done, when you ban something it seems to me that it becomes more exciting to do :-/
Title: Re: the nanny state has spoken...we must pay attention
Post by: BigAl on 30 January 2009, 00:22:15
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England's chief medical officer can go and get f@@ked
my eldest now 17 and in the army drank from an early age (12-13)
and has never been a problem
now he is a pain in the arse but miles from home  :)
my youngest 8 had her first taste of wine at christmas but she did not like it (too young i suppose)
any body can drink a little without any problems
i started when i was 11 im still here and doing fine :)
and besides England's chief medical officer aint god
That's the problem - he's a self-abuser!
He will keep coming out with this cr@p - until someone/thing stops him  >:(
he did it with smoking -  the pratts listened to him
trying it with drinking - chances are they will vote with him again
will try it with meat based food - we're on a roll
then with other 'bad' food - Yeah ! food Nazi's rule!
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 you WILL comply